[Pestilaence]

Hey guys, finally got my new build finished last night, but ran into a couple problems. There is one issue that I can't seem to figure out though. I have 8GB of RAM installed (2 x 4GB of VIPER 1866). The BIOS, whether it's my ClickBios (That I can access from the desktop), or the full BIOS that I get when I reboot into it, can detect all 8GB.... however, whenever I go into my Control Panel - System section, is says that I have 2.46GB... and whenever I open CCleaner, it shows 2.5GB. Why is that??? Can anyone help? I haven't changed any settings in the BIOS (I don't think), that would limit certain programs from seeing all 8GB of RAM. If it matters, I do have the APU dual graphics enabled.

 

[kenpachiroks]

32 bit or 64 bit OS?

 

[Pestilaence]

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Originally Posted by kenpachiroks

32 bit or 64 bit OS?

32bit XP SP3

Oh, and one other thing that I noticed... Whenever I go into the Click Bios, my temps read 255 degree C, 491 degrees F. lol... but when I go into the full bios, they read what I think they should be, around 40 degrees C.

 

[twerk]

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Originally Posted by Pestilaence

32bit XP SP3

You are limited to roughly 4GB of RAM with any 32-bit system.

 

[Pestilaence]

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Originally Posted by AndyM95

You are limited to roughly 4GB of RAM with any 32-bit system.

Seriously? So the only way for the programs to see all 8GB is to get a new 64bit OS?

 

[twerk]

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Originally Posted by Pestilaence

Seriously? So the only way for the programs to see all 8GB is to get a new 64bit OS?

Yup.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/windows/desktop/aa366778(v=vs.85).aspx

 

[aroc91]

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Originally Posted by Pestilaence

Seriously? So the only way for the programs to see all 8GB is to get a new 64bit OS?

Yep.

 

[Twinnuke]

Yes, 32 bit systems are limited ot 3.8GB I think? There are ways to trick it into using more but it isn't as good as a 64-bit OS. 64 bit systems I think are limited to 128GB software side but can use like an 256 TB of ram. 128-bit can use like exabyte or something.

 

[Waffleboy]

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Originally Posted by Pestilaence

Seriously? So the only way for the programs to see all 8GB is to get a new 64bit OS?

Yup

 

[Pestilaence]

Ok, so if it is limited to a max of 4GB, then how come it only shows 2.5gb? My old build showed 3 GB, which is what I actually had. And does anyone know about the question I had with the temps showing super high when I'm in my normal click bios?

 

[tasospaok123]

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Originally Posted by Pestilaence

Ok, so if it is limited to a max of 4GB, then how come it only shows 2.5gb? My old build showed 3 GB, which is what I actually had. And does anyone know about the question I had with the temps showing super high when I'm in my normal click bios?

I don't know about the temps, probably some faulty sensor. If you're talking about your A10 -5800K rig, then the 1GB is probably dedicated as VRAM for your integrated GPU. So 32bit XP recognizes 3.5GB and you "lose" 1GB from the gpu.

 

[candy_van]

4gb usually shows up anywhere b/t 3-3.5GB w/ 32-bit, my guess would be the memory is shared with your APU.

 

[BulletSponge]

Did you install XP from a disk? Not sure about XP but Win 7 install disks have both 32 and 64 bit versions on the same disk.

 

[Pestilaence]

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Originally Posted by tasospaok123

I don't know about the temps, probably some faulty sensor. If you're talking about your A10 -5800K rig, then the 1GB is probably dedicated as VRAM gor your integrated GPU. So 32bit XP recognizes 3.5GB and you "lose" 1GB from that.

Ok... I figured it might have something to do with the dual graphics set up or something.. that's lame though, guess I'll start looking for a 64bit OS lol. Thanks guys.

 

[givmedew]

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Originally Posted by Pestilaence

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Originally Posted by tasospaok123

I don't know about the temps, probably some faulty sensor. If you're talking about your A10 -5800K rig, then the 1GB is probably dedicated as VRAM gor your integrated GPU. So 32bit XP recognizes 3.5GB and you "lose" 1GB from that.

Ok... I figured it might have something to do with the dual graphics set up or something.. that's lame though, guess I'll start looking for a 64bit OS lol. Thanks guys.

Did you buy an OEM 32Bit disc? If it is retail your key is good for 32 and 64. Otherwise you may be best off purchasing a Windows 8 upgrade disc. Don't buy OEM get Retail.

 

[DuckieHo]

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Originally Posted by Pestilaence

Ok, so if it is limited to a max of 4GB, then how come it only shows 2.5gb? My old build showed 3 GB, which is what I actually had. And does anyone know about the question I had with the temps showing super high when I'm in my normal click bios?

Because of legacy and reserved addressing.

Different hardware require different amounts of memory address to map communication to.

A program in 32-bit consumer Windows can only actually use 2GB RAM.... 3GB with a flag.

 

[kremtok]

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Originally Posted by Pestilaence

Ok, so if it is limited to a max of 4GB, then how come it only shows 2.5gb? My old build showed 3 GB, which is what I actually had. And does anyone know about the question I had with the temps showing super high when I'm in my normal click bios?

Your operating system is limited to a total of 2^32 bytes of memory, or 4 gigabytes. That includes main system memory as well as any memory for your GPU or APU. There was a 64-bit version of Windows XP, but it was never widely available and had to be purchased separately from standard XP. That changed with Vista and continues with newer versions of Windows and the license now includes both the 32- and 64-bit versions of the OS.