Overclock.net banner

1 - 18 of 18 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
939 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Really are they world class Cyber crimes by getting everyone off of win 2000,xp,v, 7, 8, 8.1?
or is it CYA for the cloud?

is this more like a bill gates I want this?

Aren't they just one of many partners to NSA?
Waa more does MSFT know how to do?
SQL cheap basic analytic Cloud OS tablets know some hw ppl
isn't the more brains coming from third party tools

how much inside learning of this area msft is pirating from the NSA?
Quote:
http://www.cio-today.com/article/index.php?story_id=102003A912I6

Satya Nadella (pictured) today revealed Microsoft Relevant Products/Services's plans to enhance enterprise security and help its customers have stronger protection Relevant Products/Services for what he referred to as the "mobile-first, cloud Relevant Products/Services-first world."
Addressing the Microsoft Government Cloud Forum in Washington, D.C., Nadella said that Microsoft already invests $1 billion in security research and development each year, but despite that the company is creating a new Cyber Defense Operations Center. Nadella said that center will be a state-of-the-art facility that contains a staff of security response experts charged with detecting and responding to cyber threats in real time.

It's all part of what Nadella called Microsoft's new approach to security: being hyper-vigilant while addressing the cybersecurity problems it and other companies routinely face, including malware, phishing attacks and accidental data Relevant Products/Services loss.

Eyes on the Cloud

The new center will work around the clock, and Microsoft said it will have direct access to thousands of security specialists across the company and elsewhere to monitor security threats. Nadella didn't say when the center, which will run out of Microsoft headquarters in Redmond, Wash., wiil open.

Meanwhile, Bret Arsenault, Microsoft's chief information security officer, took to the company's blog to point out that while there will always be new threats, new attacks and new technologies, companies can take action now to address security concerns and improve their security.

"It is critical for companies to strengthen their core security hygiene (across things like monitoring, antivirus, patch and operating systems), adopt modern platforms and comprehensive identity, security and management solutions, and leverage features offered within cloud services," Arsenault said.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,228 Posts
Its be a start them shipping their OS's with Netbios/LLMNR/MDNS off and smb signing on -_-
 

·
Ryzen Fan
Joined
·
401 Posts
You both are ridiculous, this is for their enterprise customers. Looks like they're making a big push on emphasizing Information Security/Information Assurance on their enterprise software through the cloud.
 

·
Enthusiast Gamer
Joined
·
3,829 Posts
Oh man, SCOM nightmares
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtreme21 View Post

You both are ridiculous, this is for their enterprise customers. Looks like they're making a big push on emphasizing Information Security/Information Assurance on their enterprise software through the cloud.
Actually Its Enterprise software built for the Government.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,228 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtreme21 View Post

You both are ridiculous, this is for their enterprise customers. Looks like they're making a big push on emphasizing Information Security/Information Assurance on their enterprise software through the cloud.
Quote:
It's all part of what Nadella called Microsoft's new approach to security: being hyper-vigilant while addressing the cybersecurity problems it and other companies routinely face, including malware, phishing attacks and accidental data Relevant Products/Services loss.
yeh i guess er addressing the problems of SMB relay / poising dont count as problems Xtreme
wink.gif
, i guess i should have said, its shame microsft missed the opportunity to retire the older protocols of netBios LLMNR MDNS NTLM and missing smb signing with the release of windows 10, to increase the security of the product in enterprise environments out of the box,

Is that less ridiculous?
 

·
Enthusiast Gamer
Joined
·
3,829 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulquiorra View Post

yeh i guess er addressing the problems of SMB relay / poising dont count as problems Xtreme
wink.gif
, i guess i should have said, its shame microsft missed the opportunity to retire the older protocols of netBios LLMNR MDNS NTLM and missing smb signing with the release of windows 10, to increase the security of the product in enterprise environments out of the box,

Is that less ridiculous?
It not Antivirus/Anti-Malware/Firewall software. This new program does nothing to increase Security. That's not the softwares purpose.

It monitoring/automation software for security. Much like SCOM is for servers.
 

·
I Love this Hobby!
Joined
·
7,822 Posts
There is no such thing as security.

I thought everyone knew this by now.

M$ is now into pure illusion like Disney.

Anyone in power /\, can break into the Cloud and get what they want, despite M$ fake notion of security.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,989 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunderman456 View Post

There is no such thing as security.

I thought everyone knew this by now.

M$ is now into pure illusion like Disney.

Anyone in power /\, can break into the Cloud and get what they want, despite M$ fake notion of security.
Said by the worlds greatest hacker.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
2,813 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by coupe View Post

The tinfoil hats of posters in this thread are ridiculous.

Security is HUGE in the enterprise/government world and MS sees this as a business opportunity. Makes complete sense.
There aren't any theories here.

The same company that seeks to gather all your personal information is closening to the same government that seeks to gather all your personal information, while that same government is enacting legislation to allow legal immunity for all companies to spy on you so long as said spying is shared with said government.

We have a right to privacy. We decided it's necessary to make it a right because we decided that a governing body retains too much power to be trusted to operate on good faith when it comes to privacy. We decided privacy was the cornerstone to free speech with impunity, and free speech was the cornerstone to retaining freedom.

We did this at a time that spying and surveillance was much more difficult to accomplish.

Why, now, when spying and utilizing personal information can be highly streamlined, do we choose to go back to Britannian style of government?

Here's my tin-foil hatted conspiracy theory: human nature hasn't changed and power still corrupts. Privacy is still necessary to have as a right, still a cornerstone of free speech, and not to be preserved by the passivity of good-faith in the integrity is government.

If that "theory" makes me crazy or paranoid, so be it. This country was founded in it.
 

·
Enthusiast Gamer
Joined
·
3,829 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by coachmark2 View Post

I thought Microsoft already had one of these with the Digital Crimes Unit.
This software works different. Think of it like this. You install an agent on every machine in your environment. This agent constantly checks for security risks via critera you set forth in your management packs, and reports them to the Operations Manager. The operation manager then creates an alert saying compter x in your domain has this risk. Your T1 support when takes said alert and takes resolution steps to migate it.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
939 Posts
Discussion Starter #13
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerPowered View Post

This software works different. Think of it like this. You install an agent on every machine in your environment. This agent constantly checks for security risks via critera you set forth in your management packs, and reports them to the Operations Manager. The operation manager then creates an alert saying compter x in your domain has this risk. Your T1 support when takes said alert and takes resolution steps to migate it.
Sounds like http://www.bromium.com/ except MSFT trying to be the eye of the internet like Cameras we have in the cities

They're trying to identify who, what, when, and where the threat is
with pretty dashboard graphics powered by sql reports

they will hook up with the anti-terrorist unit and send out a drone n zap the hacker

one day this will be powered by msft india
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,596 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerPowered View Post

This software works different. Think of it like this. You install an agent on every machine in your environment. This agent constantly checks for security risks via critera you set forth in your management packs, and reports them to the Operations Manager. The operation manager then creates an alert saying compter x in your domain has this risk. Your T1 support when takes said alert and takes resolution steps to migate it.
If the agent runs on Win10 machines wonder how many data breach alerts per hour will be generated...
biggrin.gif
 

·
Politically incorrect
Joined
·
9,400 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mookster View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by coupe View Post

The tinfoil hats of posters in this thread are ridiculous.

Security is HUGE in the enterprise/government world and MS sees this as a business opportunity. Makes complete sense.
There aren't any theories here.

The same company that seeks to gather all your personal information is closening to the same government that seeks to gather all your personal information, while that same government is enacting legislation to allow legal immunity for all companies to spy on you so long as said spying is shared with said government.

We have a right to privacy. We decided it's necessary to make it a right because we decided that a governing body retains too much power to be trusted to operate on good faith when it comes to privacy. We decided privacy was the cornerstone to free speech with impunity, and free speech was the cornerstone to retaining freedom.

We did this at a time that spying and surveillance was much more difficult to accomplish.

Why, now, when spying and utilizing personal information can be highly streamlined, do we choose to go back to Britannian style of government?

Here's my tin-foil hatted conspiracy theory: human nature hasn't changed and power still corrupts. Privacy is still necessary to have as a right, still a cornerstone of free speech, and not to be preserved by the passivity of good-faith in the integrity is government.

If that "theory" makes me crazy or paranoid, so be it. This country was founded in it.
Human conditioning and brainwashing, not nature.

To understand nature go on youtube and find a video titled 'Human Nature talk with Robert Sapolsky, Gabor Mate, James Gilligan, Richard Wilkinson' and enjoy the truth.
 
  • Rep+
Reactions: Clovertail100

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
2,813 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

Human conditioning and brainwashing, not nature.

To understand nature go on youtube and find a video titled 'Human Nature talk with Robert Sapolsky, Gabor Mate, James Gilligan, Richard Wilkinson' and enjoy the truth.
You should note that I didn't aim, specifically, to exclude the relevance of nurture. The video you referenced says it best: "Nature versus nurture is an utterly over-simplifying view."
They go on to argue the two out, which is very interesting, but the point is to ultimately prove that the entire endeavor is futile.

That's basically my stance, so forgive me for not having a revelation. I don't believe nature is exclusive to nurture. Human nature is, of course, heavily impacted by nurture. Using the term "human nurture" over "human nature" is just awkward and only serves to sidetrack the point I was trying to make. "Nature" and "nurture" can certainly be used interchangeably for a person who's spent a good deal of time studying the two, until finally getting to the chicken and egg level of that debate. That's not a direction I aimed to take my debate, so I didn't make a special distinction.

I think you're a bit caught on pushing your narrative about nature versus nurture, for whatever reason. Let me revise, for you: I don't believe our nature (inclusive of our environment) has changed sufficiently to disregard the idea that power corrupts.
 

·
Politically incorrect
Joined
·
9,400 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mookster View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

Human conditioning and brainwashing, not nature.

To understand nature go on youtube and find a video titled 'Human Nature talk with Robert Sapolsky, Gabor Mate, James Gilligan, Richard Wilkinson' and enjoy the truth.
You should note that I didn't aim, specifically, to exclude the relevance of nurture. The video you referenced says it best: "Nature versus nurture is an utterly over-simplifying view."
They go on to argue the two out, which is very interesting, but the point is to ultimately prove that the entire endeavor is futile.

That's basically my stance, so forgive me for not having a revelation. I don't believe nature is exclusive to nurture. Human nature is, of course, heavily impacted by nurture. Using the term "human nurture" over "human nature" is just awkward and only serves to sidetrack the point I was trying to make. "Nature" and "nurture" can certainly be used interchangeably for a person who's spent a good deal of time studying the two, until finally getting to the chicken and egg level of that debate. That's not a direction I aimed to take my debate, so I didn't make a special distinction.

I think you're a bit caught on pushing your narrative about nature versus nurture, for whatever reason. Let me revise, for you: I don't believe our nature (inclusive of our environment) has changed sufficiently to disregard the idea that power corrupts.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I do agree with you that on the nature vs nurture argument as it's the same point those scientists make. I just hate it when people claim that human nature is warlike, greedy and basically a reflection of themselves.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
269 Posts
2016, Microsoft unveils a snort clone.

*Fizzled Fireworks*

Oh wow, how innovative of you to give your users software EVERY serious OS had for ages in triplicate (Snort is the only tool like that, and yes it can be used outside of firewalls).
With this rate I am sure that soon they'll unveil *gasp* package management with version control by 2020!

In seriousness this is downright shameful behavior, how do they retain any customers is beyond me. Oh, right, pandemic ignorance and digital crack (games) consumed by all those 1337 h4x0r kids.

Sight, at the very least I can take solace in knowing that no matter how much we fight for knowledge, the ignorance, much like heat death, seems to be the stable entropic state.
Can't fight physics can we? I guess I'm just gonna hit that digicrackpipe and watch the curtain fall. I think I'll max my Mesa next.
*Sorry to get all poetic/preachy on everyone, just frustrated I guess*.
 
1 - 18 of 18 Posts
Top