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<br><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-QI7-LY9Ul_DsVE4ZOqBQxqqqqrdJ04Ite8IY3AQMds/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0" target="_blank">Direct link to the spreadsheet</a>.<br><br>
Negative latencies: I have used the SteelSeries Ikari as the baseline hence it is 0ms. Anything else at 0ms means it has the same click latency as Ikari. Anything in negative numbers means it is faster than the Ikari by that amount.<br>
Currently the only way to benchmark is comparatively, since an absolute minimum is not known. (Please give it some thought.)<br><hr class="bbcode_rule"><br>
Some time ago I became very interested in click latency, so I started following and digging through numerous forum threads, mousing blogs and mouse review pages. I have been making a list for myself and have been very particular in keeping the list accurate and up to date. I went through with it in order to collect information for my own self, but I think it will be useful to others too. If anyone spots a possible correction, please post here so we can verify and maintain this list.<br><br>
I will be updating this list whenever there is something to be updated.<br>
Almost all of these results are at 1000Hz polling rate. I have also tried to mention the best firmware versions wherever I could.
 

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Some links to KeyResponse PK for 'bump testing':
Latest release here (direct link)
Official webpage (scroll down the page)
Last version with old interface (without timer, easier to use)

Please note that the majority of figures produced on this sheet are via wiring the switches and using a utility to measure input.

Bump testing is for those that would like an alternative involving less work. Some would argue it is less accurate (and it can be), though when done correctly, strictly and with a big enough sample size, the results come in the same ballpark as wiring up the switches.
 

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Note to Mods: If this thread crosses any rules, please PM me before modifying/deleting anything. I will do the requested changes myself; it was a lot of work to do this. Thanks.<br><br>
If required, maybe this thread should be a sticky so it can help more members.<br><br><br>
I am looking for some verifications and hoping someone can help:<br><br>
# Why is the Roccat Savu fw1.18 and 1.20 the best? Was it improved tracking? What is the click latency on these?<br><br><span style="text-decoration:line-through;"># I was corrected that all SteelSeries Kinzu v1 releases have good click latency. Need latency numbers from other releases apart from P/N:62010.</span><br><br><span style="text-decoration:line-through;"># The Logitech G402 and G303 have new firmware that has made them slower. Need to verify this and the firmware version number.</span><br><br>
# The click latency of SteelSeries Rival 100 (yes, again) and firmware version number.<br><br><span style="text-decoration:line-through;"># Delay between left and right click on DM1 Pro S and Nixeus Revel?</span><br><br><br>
I want to add click latency of:<br><br>
SteelSeries Rival (on fw newer than 1.2.0.0)<br><br>
SteelSeries Rival 300<br><br>
SteelSeries Sensei <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">/ Sensei Raw</span><br><br><span style="text-decoration:line-through;">Logitech G502</span><br><br>
Finalmouse Tournament Pro<br><br><span style="text-decoration:line-through;">Finalmouse Scream One</span><br><br><span style="text-decoration:line-through;">Roccat Kone Pure Optical (with fw number)</span><br><br><span style="text-decoration:line-through;">Roccat Kone Pure Military (on fw newer than 1.10)</span><br><br><span style="text-decoration:line-through;">Genius GX Scorpion M6-600, M6-400</span><br><br><br>
Help me out, OCN members!
 

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I could only give values against the G303 at best, don't have any of the faster ones readily available.<br><br>
Also look into adding a table instead of plain text.
 

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Ty very much <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"> Exactly what I needed.
 

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> Roccat Kone Pure Military (on fw newer than 1.10)<br><br>
My WMO at 1000hz is ~8ms slower than my KPM FW1.11. Give or take an ms.<br><br>
It's probably exactly the same as fw1.10.<br><br>
Also my abyssus v2 is ~approximately~ halfway between the WMO 1000hz and the KPM fw1.11.
 

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I could only give values against the G303 at best, don't have any of the faster ones readily available.<br><br>
Also look into adding a table instead of plain text.</div>
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That would do as well. We could still adjust figures into the list. For now I'll take anything and everything in regards to the missing info.
 

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Nice idea, but you're better off creating a Google Spreadsheet and sharing it publicly. Would be much better having the ability to sort highest to lowest and vice versa. It would also be much tidier.
 

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I'll get onto it as soon as I can. Are there any additional points or ideas for it? I will be making a table and possibly a chart/graph as well.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>badben25</strong> <a href="/t/1607990/click-latencies-compiled/0_20#post_25415079"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
I'll get onto it as soon as I can. Are there any additional points or ideas for it? I will be making a table and possibly a chart/graph as well.</div>
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Maybe go to town and write the sensor it uses, switch types, cord, dpi settings, polling rates, weight, etc. Would be cool to have a comprehensive mouse list with every little detail similar to something <a class="bbcode_url" href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UaM765-S515ibLyPaBtMnBz7xiao0HL5f-F1zk_CSF4/htmlview?pref=2&pli=1&sle=true" target="_blank">like this</a>.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>gene-z</strong> <a href="/t/1607990/click-latencies-compiled/10#post_25415236"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
Maybe go to town and write the sensor it uses, switch types, cord, dpi settings, polling rates, weight, etc. Would be cool to have a comprehensive mouse list with every little detail similar to something <a class="bbcode_url" href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UaM765-S515ibLyPaBtMnBz7xiao0HL5f-F1zk_CSF4/htmlview?pref=2&pli=1&sle=true" target="_blank">like this</a>.</div>
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I initially thought of it but that would be outside its scope. Not to mention I'd never be able to finish it lol
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>badben25</strong> <a href="/t/1607990/click-latencies-compiled/0_60#post_25414692"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br><b>NMouse 4K</b> (fw1.18 and above)<br><b>Zalman ZM-M600R</b><br>
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DAMN, now watch all the ultra low latency freaks jump for this model <img alt="yessir.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/yessir.gif"> .<br><br>
Who would of thought Zalman could deliver this despite everyone's blindness towards worshiping only Razer and Logitech consistently.
 

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Oh yeah I forgot to say this thread reminded me how I remember someone saying the kone pure optical black's clicks were 8ms faster than the kpm, both on the low latency firmware<br><br>
>Roccat Kone Pure Military (fw1.10, 1.11)<br>
>4.2ms<br><br><img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"><img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"><img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 

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Who would of thought Zalman</div>
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the zalman is honestly probably the best mouse you can get for its price.<br>
if 3090 lod and angle snapping aren't issues
 

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<a href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1595500/zalman-zm-m600r-pics/0_100#post_25035718">http://www.overclock.net/t/1595500/zalman-zm-m600r-pics/0_100#post_25035718</a><br><br>
kind of tight but it's possible
 

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SteelSeries Kinzu (product number 62010?)<br></div>
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nope, any v1 has the same latenvy as they all have the same firmware.
 
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