Comparing P4 to P-D / Celeron to Celly D

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dani

Discussion Starter · Mar 3, 2006

what the differnce between pentium 4 and penitium d
and celeron d and celeron

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Ropey

· #2 · Mar 3, 2006

I have never seen a Penitium 4 so can not speak on that item.

There are many models of Celeron of which the "D" is one but the other "Celerons" contain more than one model so you are asking for a large breakdown.

The Celeron "D" is a faster processor than all the other Celeron models:

533MHz Bus
90nm Strained Silicon Process - More and faster transistors in less space
31 Pipeline Stages - Helps with clock speed ramping
Improved Branch Predictor - Helps to avoid pipeline stall
Improved Scheduler - Helps to avoid doing unnecessary work
Improved Execution Core - An added integer multiply and fast shift to ALU
SSE3 - 13 new instructions

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Nasgul

· #3 · Mar 3, 2006

Maybe he ment Petnium 4 and Pentium 4 Extreme Edition.

Pentium 4
90nm and 65nm
800mhz fsb
3.0ghz-to-3.8ghz
2MB L2 Cache

Pentium 4 Extreme Editions
90nm
1066mhz fsb
3.46ghz and 3.73ghz
2MB L2 Cache

For the rest you'd have to look it up in the Intel website, I'm just giving out an example of what you might have ment.

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Ropey

· #4 · Mar 3, 2006

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Originally Posted by Nasgul

Maybe he ment Petnium 4 and Pentium 4 Extreme Edition

I have never seen a Petnium 4 either. These are new processors I believe.

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dani

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 3, 2006

i mean Pentium 4 and Pentium d

Nasgul

· #6 · Mar 3, 2006

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Originally Posted by Ropey

I have never seen a Petnium 4 either. These are new processors I believe.

Belive me, I'm having a hard time with this damn wireless keyboard/mouse.

I have to hit the backspace key a lot. There's a lot of wires under my desk that create a distortion with the signal. It's damn annoying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dani

i mean Pentium 4 and Pentium d

Pentium 4s are single core and Pentium Ds are dual cores. Except the high-end CPUs are HTT and have a 1066fsb (2 physical and 2 logical cores), the rest just dual cores (just two cores).

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Ropey

· #7 · Mar 3, 2006

Ah, ok.

The Pentium 4 is a unicore processor and the Pentium D is a multi-core processor.

Some Pentium 4's (800MHz fsb models) have HT (Hyperthreading) which is a logical way of created some multiplicity in data operations. It is not nearly as useful as Pentium D in multiple streams of instructions in parallel. Then there are Pentium 4's (400/533 fsb models - except for the Pentium 4 3.06) that are either HT disabled or HT was never implimented on the silicon.

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It's damn annoying.

I've had a tricky keyboard before and I totally understand your frustration.

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dani

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 3, 2006

what better to sell my ptgd1-la mobo
and get a sempron 64 and mobo or keep the mobo and buy a celeron d
i cant overclock with that mobo

Ropey

· #9 · Mar 3, 2006

The ptgd1-la is an ASUS board created for OEM and thus as you say will not be easily overclockable.

Between a Celeron D and a Sempron64? Well, the Celron "D"'s with the correct motherboard will make ~3.8 - 4.0GHz stable.

The Sempron64 with the proper motherboard will make ~2.5 - 2.6GHz stable.

It's a toss up. If you game a lot I would go with the Sempron but with the X550 it is not really going to matter all that much.

Go with the cheapest chip and the best overclocking motherboard to get your money's worth. That's my advice.

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dani

Discussion Starter · #10 · Mar 3, 2006

but you cant overclock at all in the ptgd1-la
but the good thing about the ptgd1-la is that it has a 128mb internal videocard

dani

Discussion Starter · #11 · Mar 3, 2006

how about this mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138268
and this cpu
http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16819104241
its a combo price 150$ both

Ropey

· #12 · Mar 3, 2006

If you can get the Sempron 2800+ with 256KB cache rather than the 3000+ with 128KB Cache you would have the better processor.

The board and a Sempron 754 are a good deal and you will get a ~2.2 - 2.3GHz overclock out of it.

All in all a good one imho.

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dani

Discussion Starter · #13 · Mar 3, 2006

so its better then buying celeron d is sempron 64 better then celron d?

whats better a cpu that is 1.8 with 128kb cache
or a cpu that is 1.6 with 256kb cache???

pauldovi

· #14 · Mar 4, 2006

Celeron D is a neutered Pentium 4... I would wait for the Cedar Mill Celeron Ds to come out. Save your money!

skillz

· #15 · Mar 4, 2006

the processor choice depends on what your going to be doing with the computer. All around i would go with the celeron D. On the other hand if your usage is primarily games i would go with the semperon 64 as amds tend to run games faster i think because they perform 9processes a second as opposed to the intels 6(somone correct me if im wrong) either is a good choice but should be based on what your going to use your computer for

dani

Discussion Starter · #16 · Mar 4, 2006

how much will they cost?
and are they better then the 64 bit semprons???

im not a gamer i just want a computer for movies and folding

pauldovi

· #17 · Mar 4, 2006

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Originally Posted by dani

how much will they cost?
and are they better then the 64 bit semprons???

im not a gamer i just want a computer for movies and folding

The Cedar Mill Celeron D will be 65nm and have 512k L2 cache. Currently all Celeron D's are 90nm and they only have 256k cache. The jump to 512k will be amazing, and the 65nm will allow the Celeron D to overclock like crazy. They shouldn't cost much more than the current D's, as they are cheaper to manufactor.

They will come out in Q2.

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dani

Discussion Starter · #18 · Mar 4, 2006

whats q2?

ckp64

· #19 · Mar 4, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by dani

whats q2?

Q2 = Quarter 2 = (April,May,June)

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