[Master Coder]

I am looking at coolant for my rig, I am using the XSPC Raystorm 1155 waterblock, and don't see any difference in aesthetics between the feser and the mayhems, and what I am worried about most is the buildup or gunk in my loop.

I realize performance difference and even aesthetic difference in most cases between fluid, is minimal, but my number one goal is to have a clean, no buildup/gunky loop, and no stained tubes!

I'd like to see some of your guys' worst and best experiences with the two, thanks a lot!

 

[givmedew]

FOOD COLORING!!!!!!!! Stay away from the Fesser and probably the other one too. I had pink Fesser 1 and in less than 6 months it had completely and permanently stained the tubes pink. The particles which make it pink and uv reactive obviously do not dissolve in water. It also stained my XSPC Rasa 750 res/pump all my fittings had a coating of chalky pink residue. The micro channels in the block had some blockages and all the acetal on the inside of the block was stained with the chalky pink residue as well.

I have had NO problems with food dye it is dirt cheap and allows you to use distilled water. $20 for something that can't even keep it together for 6 months is crazy.

The reason I chose to buy Fesser 1 was because I was a NEWB and it said that it was non conductive. I do not think it stays that way but maybe someone else can comment on that. Distilled water is non conductive for a short period of time and I think that is the only reason they get to claim it is non conductive. I may be wrong but IMO it's all a scam.

If you like green you can use Ethylene Glycol to color your water green. It is toxic so it will keep any build up from happening. Silver Oxide is toxic as well and takes such a small amount it won't color the water so if you want a different color than green you can use silver oxide and food color.

There is a lot of debate as to whether silver oxide does anything in a loop and whether it does good or bad so read up and make your own decision. I use ethylene glycol.

Oh also if you want a nice aqua blue you can use blue food dye and ethylene glycol.

That is blue food color and ethylene glycol mixed with distilled water.

Making sure your entire loop is free from contaminates is also important as if the loop never had any contaminates it probably wouldn't grow anything anyways. But IMO you need to add something toxic. Ethylene Glycol also acts as a lubricant and a corrosion inhibitor I can not say the same for Silver Oxide.

I voted Koolance as in Koolance's Ethylene Glycol mix $2 for enough to treat 1-2 liters.

 

[Mayhem]

Food Colouring nice so you enjoy putting sugar in your system !!!

 

[givmedew]

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

Food Colouring nice so you enjoy putting sugar in your system !!!

Yeh very much so in comparison to whatever was in that Fesser One stuff. You going to try to explain to me why sugar (which is water soluble) is worse than whatever is being added to the Fesser One stuff?

I am all ears... maybe there was something I didn't know that I need to know. Does it increase the possibility of corrosion? Please link your sources!

You don't usually wanna come in and start bashing on possible customers. Your time would be better used explaining why your product is superior to the Fesser One stuff or food coloring for that matter.

I didn't say I used or had any problems with your products.

EDIT

Also if you could link your source on the sugar being in every brand of food coloring that would be great too.

 

[narta]

Mayhem X1 clear. Ready to use, no stains, no nothing and has all you need (corrosion inhibitor and anti algea) in it.

 

[HiTekJeff]

Most food coloring, at least here in the USA, contains no sugar. Here is the WIKI on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_coloring

However there are a few food coloring items that may contain sugar, such as "Carmel color" or a few select others. You just need to make double sure and read the ingredients carefully.

Personally, I would stay with a dye made by the company making the coolant, whomever you may choose.

 

[Mayhem]

It must be just us here in the UK as ive seen people say Yeh been to Tesco picked up this food colour...

 

[givmedew]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayhem

It must be just us here in the UK as ive seen people say Yeh been to Tesco picked up this food colour...

Not like it matters the sugar would be in tiny amounts and would be dissolved. Unless sugar causes the metals to corrode (it doesn't) then it wouldn't hurt anything as long as something toxic was in the water to kill any algae.

Not sure why you would have made that previous comment except the fact that you are understandably biased which is totally fine and expected. You have to love your own product. The bottom line though is if your products do what the Fesser products do then it is not worth it.

 

[Nornam]

Mayhems all the way...Been using the X1 & the Mayhem dyes for a good couple of years now & NEVER.... I repeat!!!!... NEVER had any clogging or staining of blocks or tubing using the Mayhems (although Mayhems do state that the pink will stain & don't try & hide the fact that it does or might stain).

Just my two penneth worth

N.

 

[RainbowPrius]

Yeah stay as far away from anything Feser. Everything I hear about them is bad. I would buy from Mayhem just for the fact that he posts on the forums

. Ps Mayhem I bought some blue dye last night!

 

[Mullinz]

Mayhem's beyond a doubt. I have tried quite a few coolants and I've finally learned to solely stick to mayhem's. It looks great (I usually buy the pastel line) and I hardly ever have to clean it unless the tubing is bad. Had bad experiences with some of the others yet none with mayhem's.

 

[Mayhem]

Oky this is were the bias bit comes out. 0_o

Feser i have nothing against them and we have never had a issue with the full blown coolants (they dyes to me are weak). Under testing there coolants do work and ive never managed to make them fall out, how ever there are other coolants out there that in the past "have" fallen out or faded quickly under our testing how ever im not here to name them.

Food colouring is not made to last and is not the best dye to use how ever some of it is very good. In the UK supermarkets food colouring contain more than just sugar and if you would like to gum up your system then carry on how ever its not some thing we advise. If you going to experiment as we do then pure colourants are much better. If you going to use food colourants then name the product E Number as there are hundreds of different ones out there and some are rubbish and some are good and some well just forget it. You can also look at laser dyes

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When choosing a dye and experimenting try to get the purest one you can and try to get it from a reputable place. Dyes are not just dyes they are all so packed out with many other chemicals, Pure dyes are extremely expensive. All ways check MSDS sheets and do a little re-search before just jumping head first into the fire.

Above all have fun. Do what you think is best and if it doesn't work try some thing different.

 

[Master Coder]

Hey Mayhem I ordered my XSPC Raystorm 750 RS240 Kit today, just now actually, and Im going to get some Mayhems X1 UV Blue Coolant tonight for it!