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I have run coolant and distilled and I could hear no real difference in the pump.

Mayhem's coolant seems to be one of the more popular. The benefit I see from running coolant is that you get the biocide, anti-corrosive, etc.. all mixed in out of the bottle. There is discussion about kill coils and mixed metals causing oxidation with distilled, and since I am not one of the seekers of the highest overclock I chose simple over best performing.
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I have run coolant and distilled and I could hear no real difference in the pump.

Mayhem's coolant seems to be one of the more popular. The benefit I see from running coolant is that you get the biocide, anti-corrosive, etc.. all mixed in out of the bottle. There is discussion about kill coils and mixed metals causing oxidation with distilled, and since I am not one of the seekers of the highest overclock I chose simple over best performing.
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would that xspc + killcoil work fine ?
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im just trying to avoid water, im not the biggest fan of "refinged vegetable oils" but im trying to give xspc the benefit of the doubt that their products will work good
 

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I would recommend using anything from Mayhems (other than Aurora) over any other premixed coolant, and distilled water is the best option. I would recommend using Distilled + PTNuke PHN, no Killcoil, to reduce the risk of plasticizer leaching and dyes dropping out of suspension.
 

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im about to place the order right now... could any more people confirm this?

im only thinking about buying the XSPC EC6 since its made by the kit makers, but i definately want a better option

is distilled water really the best or will i have issues with pump noise like some others say?

Edit- so i can buy the mayhems aurora http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17694/ex-liq-275/Mayhems_Aurora_Coolant_Concentrate_-_250mL_-_Extinction_Green.html?id=hgmwy2B7&mv_pc=973#blank
drip a few drops in my distilled water and it will be better than a "coolant" with "refinged vegetable extracts"?
 

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im about to place the order right now... could any more people confirm this?

im only thinking about buying the XSPC EC6 since its made by the kit makers, but i definately want a better option

is distilled water really the best or will i have issues with pump noise like some others say?

Edit- so i can buy the mayhems aurora http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17694/ex-liq-275/Mayhems_Aurora_Coolant_Concentrate_-_250mL_-_Extinction_Green.html?id=hgmwy2B7&mv_pc=973#blank
drip a few drops in my distilled water and it will be better than a "coolant" with "refinged vegetable extracts"?
The Aurora is cool to look at but Mayhems does not reccomend running it in a production loop. I believe they market it for demo loops. You would be better off buying the pastel concentrate.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17703/ex-liq-286/Mayhems_Pastel_Coolant_Concentrate_-_250mL_-_Mint_Green.html to run it long term.
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I would recommend using anything from Mayhems (other than Aurora) over any other premixed coolant, and distilled water is the best option. I would recommend using Distilled + PTNuke PHN, no Killcoil, to reduce the risk of plasticizer leaching and dyes dropping out of suspension.
If you don't want to run coolant, this is the way I would go as well. Either way I have 2 MCP35X and I have never noticed a difference between coolant and distilled.
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The Aurora is cool to look at but Mayhems does not reccomend running it in a production loop. I believe they market it for demo loops. You would be better off buying the pastel concentrate.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17703/ex-liq-286/Mayhems_Pastel_Coolant_Concentrate_-_250mL_-_Mint_Green.html to run it long term.
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dude ty so much i read his message wrong and thought to only go with aurora, im seeing if they can make an adjustment
 

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why the pastel concentrate instead of the "dye" ?

"The system must be clean and have no chemicals of any kind left in the loop. There must be an absence of bleach, biocide and anti corrosive inhibitors. We recommend you flush your system with either DI water or Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 before use. Mayhems Pastel has biocides and inhibitors included within the mixture. "

so does this mean no deadwater or phnuke when using this dye? and does that rule out the silver kill coil as well?
 

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No, his Pastel concentrates, IIRC, have corrosion inhibitors and biocide already "built-in". I have a friend who uses the Gigabyte Orange, and it is great stuff! Temps are identical to running straight-H2O, and no fussing with any extra bottles other than the Dye Concentrate and Distilled Water!

I could be wrong, so don't take my word for it, but I believe that PTNuke(-Cu; the regular kind) is NOT GOOD to run with Mayhem's, while the PTNuke-PHN ("PH-Neutral") SHOULD BE OKAY.... It shouldn't really matter, though, as the stuff he makes is pretty much "all-inclusive".

Another benefit of the concentrate is that it requires much less to achieve the color you want than any premix, and one bottle of concentrate will last multiple drains/fills, while Pre-Mixed stuff will last exactly one time. If you are diligent about loop maintenance, say 3-4x per year, that is saving you $15-25 x 3-4, so anywhere from $45-100 a year in dye cost!
 

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No, his Pastel concentrates, IIRC, have corrosion inhibitors and biocide already "built-in". I have a friend who uses the Gigabyte Orange, and it is great stuff! Temps are identical to running straight-H2O, and no fussing with any extra bottles other than the Dye Concentrate and Distilled Water!

I could be wrong, so don't take my word for it, but I believe that PTNuke(-Cu; the regular kind) is NOT GOOD to run with Mayhem's, while the PTNuke-PHN ("PH-Neutral") SHOULD BE OKAY.... It shouldn't really matter, though, as the stuff he makes is pretty much "all-inclusive".

Another benefit of the concentrate is that it requires much less to achieve the color you want than any premix, and one bottle of concentrate will last multiple drains/fills, while Pre-Mixed stuff will last exactly one time. If you are diligent about loop maintenance, say 3-4x per year, that is saving you $15-25 x 3-4, so anywhere from $45-100 a year in dye cost!
thank you for the help man
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While this will be my first kit, flushing the radiator, soaking the cpu block/hoses will be a fun first run, then cleaning everything with distilled water to then set up the loop and do leak test

this will be a big accomplishment andi m not even thinking about how to drain / refill after a few months!!!
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thank you for the help man
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While this will be my first kit, flushing the radiator, soaking the cpu block/hoses will be a fun first run, then cleaning everything with distilled water to then set up the loop and do leak test

this will be a big accomplishment andi m not even thinking about how to drain / refill after a few months!!!
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If I can offer some advice from someone else who is fairly new to watercooling. I didn't think about draining and filling with my first rig and ended up regretting it. Not to say that you need to install drains and fill lines, but when you lay out your loop you should ask yoursef "how am I going to fill and drain this thing".
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ty very much, im still researching if the primochill coolant will affect my loop

i notice all mayhems arent fit for primochill tubing and obviously im assuming primochill dye is ok for primochill tubes
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Stay away from primochill coolant. It gunks blocks and stains tubes from what I've seen.
my bad i meant to put the DYE the UV Dye
are there any DYE i can use at all? with my primochill tube
 

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You can use the dyes as far as I know, but any dye will stain those tubes
ok but whats the difference in me usig a dye that the manufacturer claims will stain the primo tubesand one that says its safe?

would coolant be just as bad or no? this will suck i bought clear tubing in hopes of the dye making it stand out
 

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http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17472/ex-liq-262/XSPC_EC6_High_Perfromance_Liquid_Cooling_Premix_Coolant_-_1L_-_UV_Green.html

is it really "bad" to use premade coolants and ones with colors at that?

i hear about people complaining distilled water makes noise on their pumps and i just want to know if this is a fact or just a once in a while situation

im going to spend $300 on water cooling kit+tubes+fans+controllers and i dont want to use water if its going to be an issue
All liquids will be noisy while there's air in the system, Distilled water is fine that most water coolers are using it.

i've been using automotive coolant for over 5 years and never had an issue.

The xspc coolant should be ok.
 

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All liquids will be noisy while there's air in the system, Distilled water is fine that most water coolers are using it.

i've been using automotive coolant for over 5 years and never had an issue.

The xspc coolant should be ok.
im getting scared by everyone elses comments on dyes and coolants "dyes stain tubes and gunk blocks" "coolants are bad avoid them"

i just want to have some GREEN fluid in my clear tubes
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but honestly if its going to affect my blocks/tubes ill keep white water in my clear tubes and maybe one day ill upgrade tubing or something?

would you say its safer for primochill UV dye on my distilled water (literally 1 eyedrop or enough to change the color) or just get the green coolant and call it a day?
 

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im getting scared by everyone elses comments on dyes and coolants "dyes stain tubes and gunk blocks" "coolants are bad avoid them"

i just want to have some GREEN fluid in my clear tubes
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but honestly if its going to affect my blocks/tubes ill keep white water in my clear tubes and maybe one day ill upgrade tubing or something?

would you say its safer for primochill UV dye on my distilled water (literally 1 eyedrop or enough to change the color) or just get the green coolant and call it a day?
Mayhem's dyes are very good, and many of the dyes won't stain much (apart from uv pink), so there isn't much to worry about when using those dyes. The issue is one of tubing. Many types of tubing as of yet have had issues with plasticizer, including primochill pro lrt, and are the main cause for concern. Durelene is one example of good tubing for cheap and primochill's new advanced lrt has shown good results so far.
 
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