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I want to buy a AM2 rig next year. And overclock it from the start.<br />
I am unshure if it's necessary to have a water cooling for that.<br />
Mostly because I don't have a clue how it works.<br />
Can I cool all three with it? Is mainboard wc cooling even necessary?<br />
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What will that cost me?<br />
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And does it make sense compared to an good air cooler?
 

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1: You don't have to watercool it, but you can.<br />
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2: Yes you can cool all three, but I think cooling the MB chipset isn't worth it. You can get a nice air cooler for that.<br />
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3: You're looking at about $200-300USD for a nice setup.
 

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I agree with Snerp <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
 

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A good air cooler like the TT BigTyphoon, Zalman9500, or Tuniq Tower would be much better then a regular W/C system. Also, W/C won't be really necessary unless you plan on doing some high OCs.
 

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I don't think water cooling the motherboard is needed unless you don't have any air flow in your case.<br>
Water cooled will run at lower temps than air cooled.<br><br>
And setting up a water cooled system really isn't that hard if you ask me, if you have any common sense you can do it, if you can change a air cooler you can put a water block on just as easy.<br>
I've done 3 water cooled systems without any help and never had a problem.<br>
There are plenty of people here to help you if you have any questions.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Well this isn't a computer is it? Its W/C. Installing a W/C system is much riskier then putting together a computer and if he messes up while installing it might leak and short everything out.<br><br><br><br>
Obviously you have never seen this.<br><br><a href="http://www.overclock.net/intel-air-cooling/99049-air-cooling-watercooling.html" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/intel-air-c...ercooling.html</a><br><br><br><br>
Much cheaper, safer, and easier to set up then W/C.<br><br>
..Any other comments?</div>
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^^ thats why i dont W/C<br><br>
but i dont have money for good fans either.... damn stock fan ocing for me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Frown">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Well this isn't a computer is it? Its W/C. Installing a W/C system is much riskier then putting together a computer and if he messes up while installing it might leak and short everything out.</div>
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There are just as many things that can go wrong with building a computer. It's a water cooling system not brain surgery.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Obviously you have never seen this.<br><br><a href="http://www.overclock.net/intel-air-cooling/99049-air-cooling-watercooling.html" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/intel-air-c...ercooling.html</a></div>
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I've seen it. That pump isn't exactly known to be a beast. It has a low head rating and the TDX is a very restrictive block. If you read the entire thread you would have seen this point brought up. I'm not saying Big Val lied or anything, I'm just saying his particular water system was beat by a Tuniq Tower. All I know is that my temps were <span style="text-decoration:underline;">much</span> lower with my water setup than they are with my Scythe Infinity.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Much cheaper, safer, and easier to set up then W/C.<br><br>
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Cheaper, yes<br>
Safer, not if it's setup right<br>
Easier, a little bit, but It's not like it takes that much longer. Half the time I spent on my system it was because I was having fun tinkering on it.
 

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Well.......having to go from air to WC. I have to say that WC is better (so far). Since my X1900XT dropped from 74C load to 51C load (I was using VF900CU). CPU is a bit higher for some reason <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused">
 

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I read Bigval's post,<br><b>WATERCOOLING TEMPS:</b><br>
35 C Idle CPU<br>
45 C Load CPU<br><br><b>AIR COOLING TEMPS:</b><br>
30 C Idle CPU<br>
37 C Load CPU<br><br>
I don't get it because it's the opposite for me and he's running colder on air alone??<br>
My temps are<br><br><b>WATERCOOLING TEMPS:</b><br>
29 C Idle CPU (OverClocked 200MHz)<br>
36 C Load CPU<br><br>
32 C Idle GPU<br><br><b>AIR COOLING TEMPS:</b><br>
39 C Idle CPU (Not OverClocked)<br>
50 C Load CPU<br><br>
45C Idle GPU<br><br>
My GPU's is where it make's the biggest differance my 2 7900GTX put out some heat my case temps are around 20F hotter without water<br>
You can't even hardley touch the heat pipes on the video cards thats how hot they get.<br>
Well some people don't need W/C as much as others, I prefer water.
 

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That modded Nautilus I've got with 3/8 tubing and a real restrictive Delphi WB that came with knocked 14C at load and 3C at idle off this old Newcastle i'm on now....I have a 18W DDC Delphi in it with aftermarket top it has 20'ft of head and 600lph flow...The new internal wc I'm putting togather now has the same pump and top but with 7/16 tubing should cool better...The little DDC's have a very low heat dump and high head....Compare that to the Hydor spec's which only has 7'ft 2"in head...As Snerp pointed out you have to tune your system to fit your components...High restriction WB needs high head pump,low restriction WB can use a pond pump...Hydor spec's....<a href="http://www.crazypc.com/products/9339.html" target="_blank">http://www.crazypc.com/products/9339.html</a><br />
Hydor L35 Inline Water Pump: CrazyPC Computers
 

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Much cheaper, safer, and easier to set up then W/C.<br />
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LOL<br />
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Buying a Pre-built computer is easier and safer too.....but here we are, building our own and overclocking them for more speed and power. <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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Water beats air, there's really no dispute there. Not all water will of course, it greatly depends on the set up, but to say water is pointless because air is better is not supportable.<br />
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And you get what you pay for.....
 

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1nce you go WC..few go back <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
H20 > Air -> less dust inside the case and quiter, + my case hoovers a lot closer to the ground, once I was able to get rid of a couple more fans. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin">
 
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