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Core temps vs Junction temps

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I have a question regarding the QX6700. I currently have it OC'ed to 3.2 GHz, and it's stable.

However, when I read the temps of the CPU (under 100% load), I find that while the overall temperature (junction temp I believe) is 55 degrees C, the individual cores go up to 69 or 70 degrees C.

Intel says that the max operating temp is 65 Celsius. Are they referring to the max temp of the junction, or the max temp of any core at any one time?
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They're talking about one of the cores.
No, they aren't.

The thermal specification stated by intel for their IHS equiped CPUs is the tCASE. This is the temperature of the center of the top of the heatspreader.

tjunction is going to be a much higher temperature and this this what the DTS is calibrated to read.

All of that is in Intel's white papers.

Just run RealTemp (or some similar program). If you are below the tjmax, you are below the max rated operating temperature of your CPU. However, the higher you jack up clocks and voltages, the cooler you want to be to have the same kind of CPU life span.
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Bringing this one back up.

How do you find Tj on Intel's site? They provide a table with max Tc (case) value vs. power, but virtually no mention is made of junction temp.

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For processors without integrated heat spreaders such as mobile processors, the thermal specification is referred to as the junction temperature (Tj). The maximum junction temperature is defined by an activation of the processor Intel® Thermal Monitor. The Intel Thermal Monitor's automatic mode is used to indicate that the maximum TJ has been reached.

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Bringing this one back up.

How do you find Tj on Intel's site? They provide a table with max Tc (case) value vs. power, but virtually no mention is made of junction temp.

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Tjmax is not provided by Intel except for a few 45nm and mobile CPUs. Read Tj temperatures are only extrapolated off a Tjmax value.
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For desktop and server processors, you find your processor in this nice Intel document. And read the whole thing to find out why you have stuck sensors, or why your temps seem to be "sub ambient."

If you have a mobile processor, you go find its datasheet instead.
Now that's one to keep. I see the i7 is actually individually 'calibrated' - nice. Now if Cpu-Z would read that..
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edit - I've contacted the developers of the tool to see if they would add it.
I don't think CPU-Z has ever had a temperature display.
I just realised my tjmax was 10 degrees higher than normal in Core temp.. and that I've been reading my temps 10 degreees higher than they actually are. This is sad.. now I realise my water actually works!

But just to make sure.. core temp sai my tjmax was 100, but it's really 90 for a Q66..?
Yep, the q6600's tjmax is 90c.
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But just to make sure.. core temp sai my tjmax was 100, but it's really 90 for a Q66..?

So says Intel.

BTW, you aren't supposed to pour water directly on the CPU to cool it.
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Feck! All year I've thought I did a bad job on the loop! DAMNIT!!

Now my idle temps make more sense.. and my load temps are much better. Woohoo! Free 10 degrees off!
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