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Caught In The Web
May 2009 • Vol.9 Issue 5
Page(s) 84-86 in print issue

Into The Cloud
The Internet May Be Our Next Big PC

"Is the great PC revolution about to change direction? For the past quarter century, computing enthusiasts have coveted the power and versatility available on the desktop. Graphics accelerators, in-creased bus sizes, mammoth hard drives, and multicore processorsâ€"all things we unabashedly covet here at CPUâ€"put the “personal†in personal computing. After all, having the power of a minimainframe on your desk was the promise and allure of a PC world.

But a new age of cloud computing seems poised to reverse that polarity and put more of the functionality and processing power of the desktop onto the In-ternet. More than that, the cloud wants to absorb a wide range of IT functions used throughout the industry. Some day soon, applications, processes, enterprise servers, and even operating systems, which now exist on desks and in corporate data centers, may all live in the Internetâ€"the “cloud.â€"

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I am very leery of so-called "cloud" computing. Mainly because it puts too much power in the hands of those like M$ who will, no doubt, attempt to control it with their proprietary software.
 

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I am so tired of hearing this.
 

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Cloud computing will never be the future until bandwidth is so great that it can provide near instantaneous responses.. which isn't possible because packets can only be sent so fast around the world
 

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Cloud computing will never be the future until bandwidth is so great that it can provide near instantaneous responses.. which isn't possible because packets can only be sent so fast around the world


Until they invent the Warp Core. Then packets will be able to travel so much faster than the speed of light, THAT THEY WILL ARRIVE SECONDS BEFORE THEY WERE SENT!

Imagine that. Negative latency.
 

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Cloud computing is all well and good for the odd thing when you're on the move or w/e, but as for everyday use when your at home or work then its just stupid. You can get better performance and more control on your own damn computer. The only reason they're pushing this is so they can snoop in everyones personal data more easily, eroding yet more of our civil liberties.
 
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The 3 main concerns have already been mentioned. I know I don't like the idea of running my PC via a 1 meg connection, although it's the fastest connection I can get and probably will be for some time. I also know I don't want "big business" dipping their fingers into my personal PC usage and telling my what I can and can not do. Third, there would have to be some major changes to internet encryption protocols as well as the encryption used on the servers doing the work.
 

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not for a very long time, there's not enough bandwidth yet to handle that.

and think of the security risks.

There's plenty right now. Think about the people who only check their email or read their news-- it's perfect for them. It greatly enhances security, too. Think of it like an extended thin client. Microsoft's Azure Services Platform could easy support VPN access to very simple services, easily reducing the risk and cost for the consumer.

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I am very leery of so-called "cloud" computing. Mainly because it puts too much power in the hands of those like M$ who will, no doubt, attempt to control it with their proprietary software.

Microsoft surely won't be the only business offering services such as this. The only thing a business needs is servers in a datacenter to implement their own. This is the perfect opportunity for any open source developer to make money off of open-source software-- by selling the [hosting] service. Sell it as a GUI version of a remote SSH web service.
 

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I will use cloud computing when hell freezith over.
 

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I will use cloud computing when hell freezith over.
Strange statement coming from a folder. You realize you are the cloud, right?
 

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I will use cloud computing when hell freezith over.

I agree, but too bad for you this guy is right:

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Strange statement coming from a folder. You realize you are the cloud, right?

 

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Some day soon, applications, processes, enterprise servers, and even operating systems, which now exist on desks and in corporate data centers, may all live in the Internetâ€"the “cloud.â€"




Reminds me of Neon Genesis Evangelion and Shinji's father's psychotic idea of everyone becoming one pool consciousness returning to the primordial vat o_O
 

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Until they invent the Warp Core. Then packets will be able to travel so much faster than the speed of light, THAT THEY WILL ARRIVE SECONDS BEFORE THEY WERE SENT!

Imagine that. Negative latency.

Oh god, negative latency made me laugh too hard.

Honestly this is going to be a bad idea. I can see it now. Hundred's of thousands of computers being hacked at the same time by one guy, because he found a hole in the server security.
 

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see my only prob with cloud computing would be, comcast and the likes.

they already throttle my bandwidth and put a cap on it, but all in all, i still see ads and read on the internet they offer faster and faster speeds. cloud computing is a some what brilliant idea, but do you honestly want the likes of comcast and M$ to control it?
 

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Cloud computing will never be the future until bandwidth is so great that it can provide near instantaneous responses.. which isn't possible because packets can only be sent so fast around the world


Bandwidth and latency are not the same thing.
 

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Until they invent the Warp Core. Then packets will be able to travel so much faster than the speed of light, THAT THEY WILL ARRIVE SECONDS BEFORE THEY WERE SENT!

Imagine that. Negative latency.

Scary ****.

Imagine an FPS moment, you respawn and are instantly killed. When you ask "Where the **** that came from?" Someone answers: "I overclocked my core, nice ain't it?"
 

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The 3 main concerns have already been mentioned. I know I don't like the idea of running my PC via a 1 meg connection, although it's the fastest connection I can get and probably will be for some time. I also know I don't want "big business" dipping their fingers into my personal PC usage and telling my what I can and can not do. Third, there would have to be some major changes to internet encryption protocols as well as the encryption used on the servers doing the work.

seconded, it would be a privacy nightmare, especially if the whole system was some proprietary black box run by a telecom company.
 
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