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I have A Pentium 4 with a 16Kb + 12Kb L1 Cache a 1MB L2 cashe 200 Bus and an 800Mhz FSB<br><br>
and my motherboard <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813186048" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186048</a><br><br>
its a 915 chipset XD and DDR1<br><br>
I realy need to do a processor upgrade because im planing on getting a 8800GT or GTX<br><br>
so whats a major(ish) upgrade for less than 200 bucks that wont bottle neck my 7800GT and possibly a 8800GT<br><br>
i dont realy want to toss the ram i currently have either<br><br>
what should i do?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have A Pentium 4 with a 16Kb + 12Kb L1 Cache a 1MB L2 cashe 200 Bus and an 800Mhz FSB<br><br>
and my motherboard <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813186048" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186048</a><br><br>
its a 915 chipset XD and DDR1<br><br>
I realy need to do a processor upgrade because im planing on getting a 8800GT or GTX<br><br>
so whats a major(ish) upgrade for less than 200 bucks that wont bottle neck my 7800GT and possibly a 8800GT<br><br>
i dont realy want to toss the ram i currently have either<br><br>
what should i do?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused"></div>
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ABSOLUTELY NO CPU will be bottleneck free on an 8800GT/GTX, let alone your 7800GT! Even the new Core2's will still present somewhat of a bottleneck, however, it will be MUCH less that what your or even my P4 present.<br><br>
If you want to go with a G80, I would recommend a new mobo, new cpu, and new ram to go with it because anything that was netburst will hold back your GPU like an anchor. :-\\<br><br>
It's a shame I know, but it's not worth putting an 8800 series in either your or my own PC, it would be a waste of $400 unfortunately.
 

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unfortunately i figured so... but i still wana try to hang on to my RAM<br><br>
so whats a good motherboard that will support a halfway decent processor have good overclocking and DDR ram<br><br>
hmm, does that even exist anymore :-(
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">unfortunately i figured so... but i still wana try to hang on to my RAM<br />
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so whats a good motherboard that will support a halfway decent processor have good overclocking and DDR ram<br />
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hmm, does that even exist anymore :-(</div>

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</div>Well, the <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157092" target="_blank">AsRock 775DualVSTA</a> mobo supports C2D and DDR RAM, but isn't too good of an overclocker. And only has PCI-E X4. It's the only one I can think of at the moment...for Intel C2D<br />
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You might as well upgrade the whole system, but you can still hang on to it until G80/R600 comes out <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">unfortunately i figured so... but i still wana try to hang on to my RAM<br />
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so whats a good motherboard that will support a halfway decent processor have good overclocking and DDR ram<br />
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hmm, does that even exist anymore :-(</div>

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</div>Haha...well yes they do. Even though I'm personally an Intel guy, AMD prices are looking pretty darn nice right now and I've even been tempted myself to try an Opty 148 system of a 3700SD rig just to get into AMD. Not to mention all s939's take DDR1 and can overclock fairly well depending on the batch you get. AMD also has all the best DFI and SLI mobo's ;-)<br />
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If you wanted to stay with Intel though, I would suggest staying with your own mobo if it's a good over clocker and upgrade to a 641 or something like that... 65nm process tech would help you get a 4Ghz+ oc with some good cooling and it would be a huge jump from what you have now...
 

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dont care weather its intel or AMD <br />
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but yes i am an Nvidia fanboy lol<br />
oh and the motherboard posted above has AGP no PCIx<br />
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also overclocking is HIGHLY important <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
 

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The DFI Lanparty series are great overclockers <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136152" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152</a>
 

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Yea I just looked and there isn't shizzz for mobo's with P4, DDR400, PCIEx16 all in one package that's made by a decent manufacturer...<br />
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It's too bad ASUS discontinued my mobo, this thing seems to be an animal for a 915 chipset, hitting 4.1+ Ghz. Sorry dude, AMD may be the way to go here.
 

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well remember im only lookin to spend about 200 bucks on a CPU and motherboard<br />
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but that DFI is lookin good but i dont know all to much about AMD so what do you reccomend?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">well remember im only lookin to spend about 200 bucks on a CPU and motherboard<br />
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but that DFI is lookin good but i dont know all to much about AMD so what do you reccomend?</div>

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</div>Get an opty 148: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103596" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103596</a><br />
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OR<br />
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3700SD: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103539</a><br />
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DFI LanParty UT nF4: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136152" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152</a><br />
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Total - $225 or $198 respectively
 

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<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103588" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103588</a><br />
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judging by the specs, it looks a hell of alot better for 50 bucks<br />
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how much do you think i could sell my current processor and MOBO for, mabey i could get that 50 bucks, atleast?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic"><a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103588" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103588</a><br />
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judging by the specs, it looks a hell of alot better for 50 bucks<br />
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how much do you think i could sell my current processor and MOBO for, mabey i could get that 50 bucks, atleast?</div>

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</div>Well I was trying to limit my config to $200 or so with the 3700+, but if you want the dual core and 2mb L2, then definately go with the 165.. and I'd say that your current mobo and cpu could go for $125 if you're lucky maybe since they're both used and outdated...probably more like $100 though.
 

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Hmm...well an Opty 165 is <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103588" target="_blank">$170</a> on Newegg and a DFI Lan Party UT NF4-D is <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136159" target="_blank">$86</a>.<br />
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Go with the mobo and a <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539" target="_blank">3700+</a> for overclocking. Total price ~$180 with shipping
 

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hmm i can spend 250, i have the money just dont wana spend too much<br />
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how much better is the opty from the 3700+<br />
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it seems to have a much higher L1 cache and a higher L2 soo that looks like a fairly high boost right there not to mention its dual core wich would make me realy happy
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">hmm i can spend 250, i have the money just dont wana spend too much<br />
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how much better is the opty from the 3700+<br />
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it seems to have a much higher L1 cache and a higher L2 soo that looks like a fairly high boost right there not to mention its dual core wich would make me realy happy</div>

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</div>The 3700+ and the Opty will OC to around the same (3Ghz depending on batch) with good air cooling. The 3700+ is essentially a 165 cut in half, one core, 1mb L2. But the 3700+ has a 2000MT/s HTT link and the 165 has a 1000MT/s HTT... So it's your call.<br />
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Good luck with whatever way you go!
 

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Yikes... they're back in stock.... IF you're gonna get one, you better get it soon,... these 165's probably won't stay in stock for long.
 

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If you can stretch, that far, than go with the Opty 165 and the DFI LanParty.<br />
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Total would be about $262 with shipping...heh, a little over <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /> but well worth it. Plus that 165 is a great OC'ing processor
 

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ohh damnit the processor just went out of stock lol, ill buy it later i guess
 

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You do realize that by current consumption estimations, you might need a new PSU also right?
 
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