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Ok, I have these waiting to install sometime in the near future :<br />
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DD TDX CPU Block<br />
DD Maze 4 GPU Block x2 <br />
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Swiftech Storm Rev. 2<br />
Swiftech MCW60 w/ BGA Ramsinks (Still need to get another one)<br />
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Whatever setup I decide to install (which are all sitting in boxes), I am going to be using Danger Den's D5 pump (in the box), along with a BIP 120.3 (in the box, I think it's an X-Flow, but I don't know how to tell), and a Fillport w/Res (in my parts box), and 1/2" Tygon tubing (also in the parts box).<br />
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Obviously the the Storm is, well, exponentially better than the TDX, so I guess I'm trying to figure out which GPU Block I'm going to install on my X1900's.<br />
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Swiftech or the DangerDen.<br />
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Also, does anyone happen to know the difference between the Swiftech <a href="http://swiftech.com/store/product_details.asp?ProdID=403" target="_blank">MCW-60</a> and the <a href="http://swiftech.com/store/product_details.asp?ProdID=402" target="_blank">MCW60-B</a> ?<br />
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My guess is that the MCW60 doesn't come with the RAM Sinks, and the MCW60-B does? Can anyone confirm or disprove my assumption??<br />
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What's leftover, I will probably just use the DD setup on my other rig, Opty 175 and 7800GT's in SLI...paired with the Swiftech MCP-350 pump with the better flow mod done to it...And a dual 5.25" Res, and probably a dual HeaterCore with a shroud I have yet to make for it.<br />
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I have a whole nother setup, but I'm using that in my web surfing rig, it's got Tt CPU Block, Aquarius VGA block, and going to be the Tt P500 pump to top it off, with 3/8" tubing...<br />
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Thanks for the help in advance!!
 

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The storm is not by any means 'exponentially better' than the TDX. 1-2C, and that really depends on a number of other factors. <br />
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Though I like the Maze 4 (actually, Im SELLING ONE) but the Tyee is what you want if you want the bset in cooling. It cools the ram actively and is really awesome. Everythign else you have checked out seems top notch, though (especially 120.3 rads).<br />
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I have had a DD rig setup and LOVE it, however Swiftech makes great products too. A lot more people use the Maze than the 60 from switech, though. I think its for a good reason. However, I am sure it will yield good temps either way.
 

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I'm just trying to figure out which to use on my X1900...<br />
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I thought aobut the Tyee..but I don't think it's worth the money, it's not like the RAM is going to be getting that hot...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Ok, I have these waiting to install sometime in the near future :<br />
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DD TDX CPU Block<br />
DD Maze 4 GPU Block x2 <br />
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and<br />
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Swiftech Storm Rev. 2<br />
Swiftech MCW60 w/ BGA Ramsinks (Still need to get another one)<br />
<br />
Whatever setup I decide to install (which are all sitting in boxes), I am going to be using Danger Den's D5 pump (in the box), along with a BIP 120.3 (in the box, I think it's an X-Flow, but I don't know how to tell), and a Fillport w/Res (in my parts box), and 1/2" Tygon tubing (also in the parts box).<br />
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Obviously the the Storm is, well, exponentially better than the TDX, so I guess I'm trying to figure out which GPU Block I'm going to install on my X1900's.<br />
<br />
Swiftech or the DangerDen.<br />
<br />
Also, does anyone happen to know the difference between the Swiftech <a href="http://swiftech.com/store/product_details.asp?ProdID=403" target="_blank">MCW-60</a> and the <a href="http://swiftech.com/store/product_details.asp?ProdID=402" target="_blank">MCW60-B</a> ?<br />
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My guess is that the MCW60 doesn't come with the RAM Sinks, and the MCW60-B does? Can anyone confirm or disprove my assumption??<br />
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What's leftover, I will probably just use the DD setup on my other rig, Opty 175 and 7800GT's in SLI...paired with the Swiftech MCP-350 pump with the better flow mod done to it...And a dual 5.25" Res, and probably a dual HeaterCore with a shroud I have yet to make for it.<br />
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I have a whole nother setup, but I'm using that in my web surfing rig, it's got Tt CPU Block, Aquarius VGA block, and going to be the Tt P500 pump to top it off, with 3/8" tubing...<br />
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Thanks for the help in advance!!</div>

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</div> Hi, I cant help you on the GPU blocks I dont use them.You can tell if it's an X-Flow by the way the barbs are an X-flo has a barb on each end tank and a 2 pass has both barbs on the same end...Those Swifty Storms are great on naked cores and are usally just used when cooling the cpu alone, they hard to beat unless you go custom they are super restictive...You sound like me I've got so much stuff setting around in boxes I dont know where to even start sometimes, it sure is fun though....
 

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Brin -- ram can indeed do a lot when effectively cooled. I promise you, your X1900s, when overclocked, will really heat up the ram as well as the core. If you can afford it (look around for used ones) get a Tyee. You wont regret it.<br />
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If you dont plan on overclocking at all, the Maze is still really good, though =D
 

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Honestly, it doesn't need to be overclocked atm...<br />
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I've already broke 10,000 in 3dmark06, which is all I wanted to accomplish...<br />
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Now, it's just gaming, and it doesn't need to be overclocked at all for that..=)<br />
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Ira-k,<br />
Yea, it's fun having stuff laying around..makes use of a rainy day..<br />
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Also, the BIP 120.3 has barbs at one end, so is that better, or worse?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Honestly, it doesn't need to be overclocked atm...<br />
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I've already broke 10,000 in 3dmark06, which is all I wanted to accomplish...<br />
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Now, it's just gaming, and it doesn't need to be overclocked at all for that..=)<br />
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Ira-k,<br />
Yea, it's fun having stuff laying around..makes use of a rainy day..<br />
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Also, the BIP 120.3 has barbs at one end, so is that better, or worse?</div>

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</div> Yeah I would say the 2 pass are better,X-flow are supposed to be better on restictive loops, but you hardly ever see anyone using them...10,000 in 3dmark06 thats pretty good isn't it?
 

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out of those 2 <br />
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the swiftech cools a little bit better becasue theres more surface area<br />
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but if you use the storm you should use the maze 4 becasue the swiftech block kills the flow and the storm needs all the flow it can get unlike the apogee
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">out of those 2 <br />
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the swiftech cools a little bit better becasue theres more surface area<br />
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but if you use the storm you should use the maze 4 becasue the swiftech block kills the flow and the storm needs all the flow it can get unlike the apogee</div>

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</div>Very well...<br />
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Let's see what others say as well..I was thinking of just using the Maze 4 with teh Storm...<br />
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Also, whats the diff between MCW60 and MCW60-B, anyone?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Very well...<br />
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Let's see what others say as well..I was thinking of just using the Maze 4 with teh Storm...<br />
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Also, whats the diff between MCW60 and MCW60-B, anyone?</div>

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</div> I went and looked again and the only obvious thing different is the one comes with ram sinks...As far as I can tell that is the only difference..
 

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I wonder if they did something internally?
 

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</div> I really dont know..With the B designation it's possible, but then again it could just be the ram sinks...I was hoping someone would of jumped in here and helped you with it by now..The WC section is pretty dead on the week-ends...I dont use GPU coolers and haven't paid much attention when they were being discussed..Keep bumping it till someone who knows comes along...Hey you never did tell me if 10,000 is a good score in 3dmark..The only thing like that I use is CPU-Z....
 

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oh hell yea, 10000 is a great score in 3dmark06..sry!!!<br />
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And, i'll bump tomorrow as well..
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">oh hell yea, 10000 is a great score in 3dmark06..sry!!!<br />
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And, i'll bump tomorrow as well..</div>

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</div> Thanks for the info...I'll bump you up to if your not here, someone has to know..
 

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thanks, i'll be gone till tomorow afternoon...case mod time for the competition..w0t
 

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Hey Brin, Looked around some more and am pretty sure that the only difference is the ram blocks..Here are 2 links that show the insides of the blocks, check them out and see if you agree.. MCW60-B.....<a href="http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcw60-vga-water-block.html" target="_blank">http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcw60...ter-block.html</a><br />
Swiftech MCW60-B VGA Water Block (3/8 & 1/2)................................................<a href="http://www.ocia.net/reviews/mcw60/page1.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.ocia.net/reviews/mcw60/page1.shtml</a><br />
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hey Brin, Looked around some more and am pretty sure that the only difference is the ram blocks..Here are 2 links that show the insides of the blocks, check them out and see if you agree.. MCW60-B.....<a href="http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcw60-vga-water-block.html" target="_blank">http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcw60...ter-block.html</a><br>
Swiftech MCW60-B VGA Water Block (3/8 & 1/2)................................................<a href="http://www.ocia.net/reviews/mcw60/page1.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.ocia.net/reviews/mcw60/page1.shtml</a><br>
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Does anyone else know about these GPU blocks???<img alt="" src="http://www.parrottimes.com/forums/images/smilies/bump.gif" style="border:0px solid;">
 

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looks the same to me Ira...Guess it is just with the ram sinks...
 

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I'll just call swiftech and ask them monday..they have great customer service BTW
 
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