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http://www.digitaltrends.com/virtual-reality/oculus-rift-facebook-privacy/
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After installing the Oculus Home software on the device, a process with full system permissions called OVRServer_x64.exe detects when the device is turned on and sends data to Facebook's servers. The process sent up to 7MB/s on one Reddit user's headset, even after shutting down Oculus Home.
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A careful reading of the privacy policy users consent to when they agree to the Oculus Rift's terms and conditions unearths more fodder for paranoia. One section states that "depending on how you access and use" its services, Facebook may collect information about the games, content, apps, and other experiences a user interacts with; a user's IP address and "certain device identifiers that may be unique to your device"; a device's precise location based on GPS signal, Wi-Fi networks and cellular towers; and information about a user's "physical movements and dimensions" when the headset is used.

Facebook also states "third parties may also collect information about you through the Services," notes UploadVR.
This could have been expected, but it doesn't make it any more unsettling.
 

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So Spybook want the same data than MSpy are collecting through their Occulus Spy.
 

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Shooting themselves in the foot right off the bat, so typical of Facebook. They don't realize that their customers are not mindless social drones anymore. Gamers will just ditch Oculus and get Vive, just like with XBone.
 
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I've never used facebook or have had it installed on any of my computers. Also don't have a rift. Some reason I still think they are getting my data somehow. Maybe it's those facebook ads in mobile games or when browsing . I do use W10 whenever possible. Wonder if their will ever be a property rights fight over other's data obtained deviously?
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Shooting themselves in the foot right off the bat, so typical of Facebook. They don't realize that their customers are not mindless social drones anymore. Gamers will just ditch Oculus and get Vive, just like with XBone.
It's not like Steam collects you data, right?
 

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So this isn't just them selling to 3rd parties, they're now allowing 3rd parties to collect their own data. Does this mean I'm going to have to try and keep up with hundreds of different Privacy Policies, many of which can be updated with no notice. I don't know when I'll find the time to actually do anything else on my computer. I guess I could just give in..nah, I'll just avoid the product.
 

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They just want to know what kind of porn you like so they can launch their new pornVR service.
 
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Shooting themselves in the foot right off the bat, so typical of Facebook. They don't realize that their customers are not mindless social drones anymore. Gamers will just ditch Oculus and get Vive, just like with XBone.
WRONG! Don't underestimate how many sheeple are out there.
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Who didn't see this one coming? Facebook at its core is a data collection service. Data collection is how they get paid...and boy do they get paid!

Edit to add: they have a 10,000 word privacy policy to use facebook, that is like 20 pages of legalese!
 

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If the data stream up was 7MB/s I highly doubt it was statistics, could just be cloud syncing or windows messing up or something else.

That being said it would not surprise me one bit if Facebook was using the rift for data mining.
 

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They have a bitcoin mining bot
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Seriously, the fact that these user agreements are legal is hilarious. Like someone mentioned already, how are we supposed to keep up with all the EULAs we come across? They are long and tedious and also can be changed at any time without your consent?

It's the companies way of getting away with their *****, by outlawyering their consumers.
 

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None of this sort of thing will change until (don't hold your breath) politicians give legal ownership of little data back to people and regulate the corporations.

Whining about it is just spitting in the wind. Going all "boo occulus, ya vive" is being willfully blind because I guarantee the vive and the ps4 version whatever it's called are both harvesting every bit of user data they can possibly get away with as well.

We're now in the age where the corps see us as products. Get used to it or do something productive about it.
 

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The legal framework all around the world needs some very serious revamping to protect citizens in the 21st century from these mega corporations that spread like a disease. Even if you don't have a Facebook account these days you will need to use at least two browser extensions in order to not be tracked and profiled by them.

Regarding the Oculus, it's insane how they think that they can get away with this. This isn't even in the "free" category, not even in the affordable one; if this was a dictatorship state sponsored product you would have people 100% agreeing that this is spyware masked as a hardware product.

And just wait for Microsoft's HoloLens. Kinect didn't make it because of privacy concerns and it was just filming and recording audio in a static location, probably in front of your sofa in the living room. Now they come back with a vengeance and want you to film around the house for them.

This beginning of the century is bonkers. It feels like the beginning of the last one in a way. People believing that technology was out of this world and nothing wrong could happen. "Unsinkable" they said.

We really need to turn this ship around.
 

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7mb/s upload... pretty much will hog or kill your connection.
Yeah I'm calling BS on that, maybe if it's syncing cloud data for saved games or something but 7mb/s isn't data mining.

Usable analytics are going to be using minute amounts of data.

But hey, let's watch people go crazy about it with no attempts at verification as per normal.
 

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Yeah I'm calling BS on that, maybe if it's syncing cloud data for saved games or something but 7mb/s isn't data mining.

Usable analytics are going to be using minute amounts of data.

But hey, let's watch people go crazy about it with no attempts at verification as per normal.
Forget about the specific amounts of data being transmitted at any one time. Read the terms and conditions, that's what is important.
 

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Forget about the specific amounts of data being transmitted at any one time. Read the terms and conditions, that's what is important.
Not only that but we know facebook made a bail-out deal years ago for more money in exchange for information they had on people. This was expected, predicted and was seen miles away. Facebook didn't just go to some garage-dwelling kickstarter for no reason and offer a suitcase full of money. It's about as transparent as Google and their drones. We all know what's going to happen, especially seeing as how Microsoft has had people on edge with their w10 stunt.

Sadly my net connection is 5mb/s and the fastest I can get with my current infrastructure, what worries me is the article stated that it continued after the application was terminated.
 
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