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Hello, I am hoping that someone can answer the following for me...<br><br>
If I purchase a new motherboard, and replace the one I am currently using with it, simply switching out just the MB and using all of the old components(HDD, Optical drives, Processor, memory, etc.) will this require a format of the HDD? Or, will windows simply detect the new configurations, add the new drivers, and continue on its merry way?<br><br>
I know this is kinda a noobish question, but I have never attempted this before and I would really like to purchase a Crossfire board so I can run dual<br>
X1950XTX's and use PC2-6400 RAM. Thanks in advance to everyone.
 

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as far as i know it shouldnt
 

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just changing drivers on windows
 

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In short, yes. Unless your new motherboard has exactly the same chipsets as your old motherboard, you will need a reformat, unless by some chance you manage to uninstall the current chipset drivers and then install your new motherboard.. but I'd just reformat.
 

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Not true. I changed from a crappy Compaq Micro ATX board to this mobo kept the same harddrive and most other components just started up the computer and it detected everything just fine.
 

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ok, will the fact that I'm going to upgrade from an Nvidia northbridge to an ATI northbridge cause any problems? I'm in a similar situation as what was stated in a previous post. This board that I'm using now is one that came with an off-the-shelf Hewlett Packard PC. The HDD still has the original Windows configuration that was included when I purchased the PC.<br><br>
I'm just wondering about the bios. When I start it up for the first time, the bios and everything will be different right? Then when I get into windows, it "should" do its "Windows is detecting new hardware" thingy, and then I can just load the drivers that are included on the CD that comes with the new board, correct?<br><br>
Thanks again for all your help guys.
 

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You dont need to reformat - But Windows XP or what ever OS your using will not boot - You will get a blue screen and rig will restart - you have to a do a repair install on it - If not <span style="text-decoration:underline;">then</span> you will need to do a clean install and format the HDD <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Thumb">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">you have to a do a repair install on it - If not <span style="text-decoration:underline;">then</span> you will need to do a clean install and format the HDD <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Thumb"></div>
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So basically what your saying is that I dont need to reformat, just do what I call a overlapping installation. Reinstalling windows and all the included bs without touching any of the other things that have been placed on the drive.<br><br>
I have also contacted ECS and asked them about this situation as well. The board I have decided to go with is the following...<br><br><a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135024" target="_blank">ECS KA3 MVP v1.0a</a><br><br>
Yep, I truly am an ATi fanboy if you will... I have never liked nVidia and dont think I ever will, lol. It's a long story but to make it short, because they refused to give me the proper support, I ended up crashing a HDD and ruining not only the VGA card, but also completely screwed the onboard video as well. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Mad"> Afterwords, they refused to offer me any kind of reimbersement for damages caused by THEIR PRODUCT!
 

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all you would have to do is repair the previous XP install <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br>
need a xp disk though :S
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So basically what your saying is that I dont need to reformat, just do what I call a overlapping installation. Reinstalling windows and all the included bs without touching any of the other things that have been placed on the drive.<br><br>
I have also contacted ECS and asked them about this situation as well. The board I have decided to go with is the following...<br><br><a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135024" target="_blank">ECS KA3 MVP v1.0a</a><br><br>
Yep, I truly am an ATi fanboy if you will... I have never liked nVidia and dont think I ever will, lol. It's a long story but to make it short, because they refused to give me the proper support, I ended up crashing a HDD and ruining not only the VGA card, but also completely screwed the onboard video as well. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Mad"> Afterwords, they refused to offer me any kind of reimbersement for damages caused by THEIR PRODUCT!</div>
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You might want to check on this before you buy, but that board has a ATI southbridge, and from what I hear, they suck big time, such as usb ports spazzing out and whatnot- but find out from someone else, because I haven't ever owned a ati board <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"> I do know that a lot of mobo manufacturers use ULi southbridges to get around ATi's bugs.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">You might want to check on this before you buy, but that board has a ATI southbridge, and from what I hear, they suck big time, such as usb ports spazzing out and whatnot- but find out from someone else, because I haven't ever owned a ati board <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"> I do know that a lot of mobo manufacturers use ULi southbridges to get around ATi's bugs.</div>
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Funny you should say that. I've seen some pictures of this board all ripped apart, and now that you mention that, I recall seeing ULi chips all over that board. In fact, if my memory serves me right, I do believe that the southbridge <i>did</i> have ULi stamped on it. The only reason I recall this is because I believed the SB to be an ATI, and thought the ULi stamping was strange. Perhaps it is a ULi design, built by ATI?? I dont know, but this board had the highest rating I could find for an ATI/Crossfire capable board.<br><br>
If you guys have any other suggestions for a good motherboard, let me hear it! I'd prefer to have the ATI northbridge if possible, and to be perfectly honest, it really DOESNT have to have the extra pci-e slot for crossfire. I would be perfectly happy running my X1950XTX by its lonesome if I know the board is going to overclock well (just a little) and not give me problems now, or down the road.
 

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Oh, well then don't worry about it, lol newegg specs say ATi SB600, but they might have changed it.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I would be perfectly happy running my X1950XTX by its lonesome if I know the board is going to overclock well (just a little) and not give me problems now, or down the road.</div>
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Hey mate, I have a comment or two.<br>
Firstly this card is ALL ATI, so there's no ULI SB on it. It has the RD580 NB and the S600 SB. An older ATI SB, the S480 really did suck with the USB devices, but as far as SATA trasnsfer rates are concerned ATI SBs were always good and that's what matters the most.<br>
Secondly this is a bad bad card to OC. It also has memory compatibility issues. With every BIOS revision that passes things improve but 3 weeks ago it couldn't even use [email protected], so read on ECS's site what types of mem are compatible with this board.<br>
Other than that, I wish you good luck with whatever you're buying and enjoy your rig.
 

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After some searching, I too read about the problems that you had described with the ATI's bridges. It seems to me as though the problems dont neccessarily come from the southbridge itself, but rather problems with drivers and incompatabilities between certain hardware/software configurations.<br><br>
I read alot of interesting things in regards to AMD & ATI, socket AM2 and the future of the crossfire setup, such to do with the on-die memory controller and also problems with HT Link speed. AMD is still having problems with memory controllers, which I myself have been witness to-(especially when using DIMM slots 3 and 4 *channels 4 to 7*, basically anything over 2gb of RAM) From what I've read, the problems with the bridges have been taken care of, not fully by ATI, but rather by each individual board manufacturer.<br><br>
The updated bios for this particular board manages to spark alot of extra life out of system memory and also FSB speeds. Better detection of RAM modules, better control over board voltage, and also a much needed control upgrade for the crossfire capability. The initial release of this board had a load of problems, but since revision 1.0m, the ATI XPRESS-3200 is on par with the nvidia nforce570 series. While the ATI XPRESS-1100 is the equivalent of nvidia's nforce4.<br><br>
Ok, so I'm getting a little off-topic here, but when it comes to any kind of hardware that I'm using or may be using in the future, I cant help myself.<br><br>
Take note that I personally cannot verify ANY of this information. This is all info that I've found around the net, as well as a 1hr discussion with my cousin (who is a computer tech/programmer for NASA), who just seems to know everything lol.<br><br>
He really put it best when he said, "hell, buy the board, hook it up, see what happens, and go from there." I guess the worst that could happen is everything locks up/crashes and becomes the newest addition to my garbage can, or I end up with a smoking system and all will be well...<br><br>
I guess time will tell <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thinking.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Thinking">
 

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OK - first off, to correct myself: the ECS was NOT the board I saw that had the ULi chips on it. I believe it may have been one of the other boards I was looking at. Either a MSI or possibly a Gigabyte? I'm not positive. Also, the ECS website, as well as many users of the board state that the board is compatible with PC2-6400 (800mhz). I'm thinking that perhaps the initial problems people were having with the board were mainly voltage problems, since different ram requires diff. voltages to run at the same speeds. I actually kind of prefer to run 667mhz sticks if possible, mainly due to the fact that the latency is usually much lower, at much lower voltages. Example, I just bought the Crucial Anniversary PC2-5300, running 3-3-3-12 at only 1.9v-2.0v.<br><br>
Also, I've always thought that the processor determined what type of RAM you can run (For AMD's anyhow). Is this wrong? What does determine the size/speed of allowable RAM? Thanks again for all the feedback! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 
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