[Alvarez]

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hings are definitely not looking good for all publishers using the Denuvo anti-tamper tech. Yesterday we informed you about Total War: WARHAMMER 2 getting cracked in due time. And today, another Denuvo-powered game has been cracked in record time, and that's no other than EA Sports' latest soccer, FIFA 18.

As with Total War: WARHAMMER 2, FIFA 18 is among the fastest Denuvo-powered games that have been cracked. In fact, it's been less than a day, something that should worry publishers we are using Denuvo in order to keep their games protected for at least the first couple of days (or for their first week).

Electronic Arts has removed the Denuvo anti-tamper tech from Mass Effect: Andromeda so it will be interesting to see whether it will also remove it from FIFA 18.

What also has become crystal clear - with these two releases - is that the latest version of the Denuvo anti-tamper tech is simply unable to protect the games that are using it.

Source: http://www.dsogaming.com/news/fifa-18-is-another-denuvo-powered-game-that-has-also-been-cracked-in-less-than-a-day/

Referred by N4G as well.

 

[Master Chicken]

End of line, man.

 

[unseen0]

owned!

Seriously tho, is anything "crack-free"?
There are Keygens, cracks, online activators and all kinds of shenanigans people come up with to bypass security.

The only thing i've yet to see bypassed is MMO's. Wouldn't games be safer if they would be server sided as well?
I understand that some people might find it annoying because you would need a constant internet connection to play even single player.
But we're nearing 2018.. i mean c'mon.

Then again, i bet there would be some kind of offline mode within no times. Like the hundreds upon hundreds of Private servers for online games.

Maybe it's a losing battle.

 

[Joephis19]

How is Denuvo still in business?

When will devs realize that there is only a minimal impact to their bottom line from piracy, and that they could lower prices if they stopped slapping this crap DRM onto everything?

I'm pretty sure I read here before that a study showed that piracy actually leads to more sales, as it pretty much the only way gamers can demo products anymore. If its good, we will pay for it. If its crap, it doesn't matter if it was pirated, because most of us wouldn't have paid for your crap games anyway.

 

[CDub07]

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Originally Posted by unseen0

owned!

Seriously tho, is anything "crack-free"?
There are Keygens, cracks, online activators and all kinds of shenanigans people come up with to bypass security.

The only thing i've yet to see bypassed is MMO's. Wouldn't games be safer if they would be server sided as well?
I understand that some people might find it annoying because you would need a constant internet connection to play even single player.
But we're nearing 2018.. i mean c'mon.

Then again, i bet there would be some kind of offline mode within no times. Like the hundreds upon hundreds of Private servers for online games.

Maybe it's a losing battle.

The harder you try to protect something the more enticing it is to attack. A lot of these groups don't do for financial gain(some do), there in it for the thrill of the hunt.

 

[TFL Replica]

It's time for this cancerware to join Starforce and Securom in DRM hell.

 

[PostalTwinkie]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFL Replica

It's time for this cancerware to join Starforce and Securom in DRM hell.

This.

 

[paulerxx]

They probably wasted more money on Denuvo than potential buyers pirating the game...

 

[doritos93]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFL Replica

It's time for this cancerware to join Starforce and Securom in DRM hell.

DRM exists to appease execs and as long as execs are around so will DRM

Lowly BA : "we sold 4 trillion copies of our latest installment of Battle Duty Front and Field"
Exec : "Excellent."
Lowly BA : "but we could of sold at least 300 more based on the number of seeds for the games most popular torrent"
Exec : "WHAT?! But what about Denuvo???"
Lowly BA : "Denuvo? We got rid of that months ago since No Effect was cracked in less than a day"
Exec : "PUT IT BACK!!!"

 

[Mega Man]

Quote:

Originally Posted by unseen0

owned!

Seriously tho, is anything "crack-free"?
There are Keygens, cracks, online activators and all kinds of shenanigans people come up with to bypass security.

The only thing i've yet to see bypassed is MMO's. Wouldn't games be safer if they would be server sided as well?
I understand that some people might find it annoying because you would need a constant internet connection to play even single player.
But we're nearing 2018.. i mean c'mon.

Then again, i bet there would be some kind of offline mode within no times. Like the hundreds upon hundreds of Private servers for online games.

Maybe it's a losing battle.

Ok. New scenario. I go on cruises. Which means no internet. I do alot of things which means no internet. But i like to game.

More over what happens when these magic servers die. Or companies go bankrupt.

I already hate steam. But it is able to be worked around

I miss old days of true hardware. Aka i OWN the game

 

[TK421]

I'm happy inside :v

 

[unseen0]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mega Man

Ok. New scenario. I go on cruises. Which means no internet. I do alot of things which means no internet. But i like to game.

More over what happens when these magic servers die. Or companies go bankrupt.

I already hate steam. But it is able to be worked around

I miss old days of true hardware. Aka i OWN the game

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying having an internet connection is a solution. There simply isn't one.
Because as your scenario sketches. Those without internet will be punished if some internet connection piracy prevention takes place.
On the other hand, if there isn't one, games will continue to be cracked and thus pirated.

Altho i dislike steam myself and i would very much dislike requiring an internet connection to play games, i do see this happening in the future.
Because we've got to be realistic here. a lot of games are being pirated. And that is not right.
Then again, i feel that the quality of games, the lack of demos, the abominations they call "pre-orders" and the milking they call "DLC's" really don't help in preventing piracy.

 

[Liranan]

Quote:

Originally Posted by unseen0

owned!

Seriously tho, is anything "crack-free"?
There are Keygens, cracks, online activators and all kinds of shenanigans people come up with to bypass security.

The only thing i've yet to see bypassed is MMO's. Wouldn't games be safer if they would be server sided as well?
I understand that some people might find it annoying because you would need a constant internet connection to play even single player.
But we're nearing 2018.. i mean c'mon.

Then again, i bet there would be some kind of offline mode within no times. Like the hundreds upon hundreds of Private servers for online games.

Maybe it's a losing battle.

DRM is not security, it's worthless and pointless at its best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mega Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by unseen0

owned!

Seriously tho, is anything "crack-free"?
There are Keygens, cracks, online activators and all kinds of shenanigans people come up with to bypass security.

The only thing i've yet to see bypassed is MMO's. Wouldn't games be safer if they would be server sided as well?
I understand that some people might find it annoying because you would need a constant internet connection to play even single player.
But we're nearing 2018.. i mean c'mon.

Then again, i bet there would be some kind of offline mode within no times. Like the hundreds upon hundreds of Private servers for online games.

Maybe it's a losing battle.

Ok. New scenario. I go on cruises. Which means no internet. I do alot of things which means no internet. But i like to game.

More over what happens when these magic servers die. Or companies go bankrupt.

I already hate steam. But it is able to be worked around

I miss old days of true hardware. Aka i OWN the game

The same thing that happened to GTA IV will happen to the game you bought, servers will be shut down and you won't be able to play the game. Which means you have no choice but to resort to desperate measures to play the game you paid hard earned money for. But if you are caught doing it you will get fined 12563324556 USD just because.

 

[umeng2002]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFL Replica

It's time for this cancerware to join Starforce and Securom in DRM hell.

Hopefully MS won't perma-ban it so these games will run on future versions of Windows.

 

[Omega X]

Dun Dun Duuun. Its done.

 

[Ashura]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TK421

I'm happy inside :v

Yes, me too, but maybe a lot more

 

[Imouto]

Quote:

Originally Posted by unseen0

The only thing i've yet to see bypassed is MMO's.

There are plenty of MMORPGs cracked with private or pirate servers.

 

[MrKoala]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imouto

There are plenty of MMORPGs cracked with private or pirate servers.

"Cracking" a MMORPG is a very different game. Beside stripping/bypassing the DRM you have to emulate/replace whatever server side logic there is, which requires tons of reverse engineering of the game itself other than the DRM layer. "Unofficial server implementation" is likely a better term than "cracked game".

That, or you manage to steal the server software somehow.

 

[Liranan]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imouto

Quote:

Originally Posted by unseen0

The only thing i've yet to see bypassed is MMO's.

There are plenty of MMORPGs cracked with private or pirate servers.

So far the only MMO I've seen that hasn't been cracked is EVE and that's because it's been impossible to emulate that so far.

 

[andrews2547]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mega Man

Ok. New scenario. I go on cruises. Which means no internet. I do alot of things which means no internet. But i like to game.

More over what happens when these magic servers die. Or companies go bankrupt.

I already hate steam. But it is able to be worked around

I miss old days of true hardware. Aka i OWN the game

You've never owned games, or any software unless you were the one who made them.

You've always purchased a license to use those games/software.