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Ok, I just decided I wanted to learn how to use Linux, so I downloaded SUSE 10.1, and I'm also going to download Fedora Core 5 (I'll d/l both, whether I use them or not). My first question is, does anyone recommend one over the other, and why?<br />
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But my MAIN question is just what do I need to do/learn before I start this? I know in SUSE installation it will ask you about how you want partitions set up, should I simply use that or will that damage my current Windows partition in any way by shrinking it? I've never done this before (obviously) so I just want to be safe because I REALLY don't want to rebuild my comp at this time.<br />
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Then, how big should my partition be? I've read that anywhere from 10gb to 20gb would suffice. I have a 160 GB hard drive and I am only using between 40gb-50gb (depending on when you ask me <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" /> ) so I definitely have plenty of extra disk space.<br />
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Or, for the partitioning, should I use PartitionMagic or something, or will the partitioning done during the Installation suffice?<br />
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Also, I read some stuff about a boot loader or something like LILO or GRUB, do I need one of those? If so, which one? What do they do, exactly, and how should I set them up? And where can I download it?<br />
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I know it's a lot of questions, but I really appreciate it and I'm sure someone would like to help (someone always does here! <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" /> )
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Ok, I just decided I wanted to learn how to use Linux, so I downloaded SUSE 10.1, and I'm also going to download Fedora Core 5 (I'll d/l both, whether I use them or not). My first question is, does anyone recommend one over the other, and why?<br />
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But my MAIN question is just what do I need to do/learn before I start this? I know in SUSE installation it will ask you about how you want partitions set up, should I simply use that or will that damage my current Windows partition in any way by shrinking it? I've never done this before (obviously) so I just want to be safe because I REALLY don't want to rebuild my comp at this time.<br />
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Then, how big should my partition be? I've read that anywhere from 10gb to 20gb would suffice. I have a 160 GB hard drive and I am only using between 40gb-50gb (depending on when you ask me <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" /> ) so I definitely have plenty of extra disk space.<br />
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Or, for the partitioning, should I use PartitionMagic or something, or will the partitioning done during the Installation suffice?<br />
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Also, I read some stuff about a boot loader or something like LILO or GRUB, do I need one of those? If so, which one? What do they do, exactly, and how should I set them up? And where can I download it?<br />
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I know it's a lot of questions, but I really appreciate it and I'm sure someone would like to help (someone always does here! <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" /> )</div>

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</div>I like SuSE, Jester will suggest Fedora <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /><br />
I like SuSE just because it seemed more user friendly to me. (although yum>yast) <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /><br />
With either of those two distros you really don't need to learn anything before hand, you'll pick it up as you go, if you have a question don't be afraid to ask. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /><br />
You'll want to resize your current NTFS partition. Then make another primary partition at the end(do before installing SuSE), SuSE will give you a few different chooses and you can do a good amount in expert mode. A 20GB partition will be enough.<br />
Grub and LILO are different boot loaders. Grub is becoming the standard. Has a lot more options including doing stuff on the fly. It will be installed near the end of the install process. All is does it let you choose between either booting Linux or Windows.
 
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Ok, so how do I resize the partition before installing SUSE? Can Windows do that, or do I need to use PartitionMagic or something?<br />
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And so you're saying I don't need to download or install GRUB? It will do it at the end of the Linux installation, correct?<br />
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Anyways, thanks a lot for the help <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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I didn't even really think about it, but would you recommend another Linux distro for me to learn? Don't recommend something that looks and acts like Windows and is for beginners to learn. I just wanna straight up learn to use Linux.
 

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Suse should have a partition utility built in, but if it doesnt, partition magic works great.
 
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like i told Retrospekt suse will be a good first linux distro for you.<br />
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btw Retrospekt how you getting on choosing a distro?
 
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Im almost finished downlaoding mandriva, so ill try that first. If that doesn't work ill go for pclinux.
 

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Partition magic will help you resize that partition.<br />
Don't worry about Grub its included in Linux. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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</div>Linux is very customizable, and SuSE and Fedora are both great distros.<br />
Check out the sites for GNOME and KDE and look at the screenshot and see which to prefer better. Also check out other peoples desktop <a href="http://www.overclock.net/linux-unix-mac/115329-show-your-linux.html" target="_blank">here</a>, it'll help show you how customizable Linux is.<br />
Learn with SuSE or Fedora then when you think your ready and have learned enough try out Gentoo or Slackware or Debian.
 
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id probably recommend kde as its just that bit friendlier than gnome and looks prettyier
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">id probably recommend kde as its just that bit friendlier than gnome and looks prettyier</div>

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</div>You cannot tell me that this is not pretty <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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its ok but i prefer the glass effect of kde
 

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</div>It does, I was installing SUSE 10.1 on a comp at school, which inspired me to finally get off my lazy bum and learn Linux. I meant to very long ago, but I was just so lazy. I was just wondering if the one in Suse would work fine, as all I did with it was format the former Windows partition on the other comp.<br />
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Now I think I'll use Linux as often as I can from now on, and simply go to Windows for my gaming <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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Also, about GNOME/KDE, is one any different than the other besides the look to it? Are there really any other pros to one over the other? I noticed during the installation at school I think Gnome used Firefox for it's browser, but I can use it on KDE as well, right? Because I <3 Firefox, unless Konqueror is better in your opinion...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">It does, I was installing SUSE 10.1 on a comp at school, which inspired me to finally get off my lazy bum and learn Linux. I meant to very long ago, but I was just so lazy. I was just wondering if the one in Suse would work fine, as all I did with it was format the former Windows partition on the other comp.<br />
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Now I think I'll use Linux as often as I can from now on, and simply go to Windows for my gaming <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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Also, about GNOME/KDE, is one any different than the other besides the look to it? Are there really any other pros to one over the other? I noticed during the installation at school I think Gnome used Firefox for it's browser, but I can use it on KDE as well, right? Because I <3 Firefox, unless Konqueror is better in your opinion...</div>

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</div>i personally find kde easier to use. the suse partition prog will be fine. i use opera as my web browser but i would prefer to use firfox over konquer. konquer is a little like using explorer and then turns into internet explorer when you type in a url
 

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Alrighty, thanks a lot. Sounds great.<br />
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Also, do I need to prepare anything before the partitioning? Besides backing up my PC of course, just in case <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
 

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dont htink so. if you have all your stuff backed up you should be fine. it will resize your partition without destroying data. just be sure to read through everything
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">dont htink so. if you have all your stuff backed up you should be fine. it will resize your partition without destroying data. just be sure to read through everything</div>

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</div>Cool. I'm actually burning the DVD iso right now to the disk, then I'll back up my PC tomorrow probably and get to installing. Although I may back it up tonight, depends on how long it takes and how tired I am...
 

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cool have fun and if you have any problems just post em up and il try to help if not a linux guru will no doubt offer their help
 

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Wow, it only took about 7 minutes to burn the DVD... that was fast. I thought it would take longer to burn 3.5 GB lol, I rebooted and put the disk in and it went to the installation menu so it appears to have worked.<br />
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Anyways, I was about to go ahead and start backing up my PC when my dad walked in and told me to wait till tomorrow, as it's too late and he didn't want me sleeping all day, then he made the comment "Hey, you don't have school tomorrow so we can all sleep in late!"... >_< (if that makes sense that he would say that after not wanting me to sleep late)<br />
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Anyways, I'll start at it tomorrow I suppose! And thanks for the help, peeps!
 

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Defrag your hard drive before the resizing, just for good measure. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 
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<div style="font-style:italic">Ok, I just decided I wanted to learn how to use Linux, so I downloaded SUSE 10.1, and I'm also going to download Fedora Core 5 (I'll d/l both, whether I use them or not). My first question is, does anyone recommend one over the other, and why?<br />
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But my MAIN question is just what do I need to do/learn before I start this? I know in SUSE installation it will ask you about how you want partitions set up, should I simply use that or will that damage my current Windows partition in any way by shrinking it? I've never done this before (obviously) so I just want to be safe because I REALLY don't want to rebuild my comp at this time.<br />
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Then, how big should my partition be? I've read that anywhere from 10gb to 20gb would suffice. I have a 160 GB hard drive and I am only using between 40gb-50gb (depending on when you ask me <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" /> ) so I definitely have plenty of extra disk space.<br />
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Or, for the partitioning, should I use PartitionMagic or something, or will the partitioning done during the Installation suffice?<br />
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Also, I read some stuff about a boot loader or something like LILO or GRUB, do I need one of those? If so, which one? What do they do, exactly, and how should I set them up? And where can I download it?<br />
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I know it's a lot of questions, but I really appreciate it and I'm sure someone would like to help (someone always does here! <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" /> )</div>

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</div>simplest and easiest way since you dont know much about linux is set up windows first since its a whole lot easier to partition. then install linux on the remaning space. so since u have 160gb drive i would split it pretty much up the middle. 80 for windows and 80 for linux. i had a dual boot machine like this and i found it a milliion times easier to install windows first then linux. if u have any questions pm me
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">simplest and easiest way since you dont know much about linux is set up windows first since its a whole lot easier to partition. then install linux on the remaning space. so since u have 160gb drive i would split it pretty much up the middle. 80 for windows and 80 for linux. i had a dual boot machine like this and i found it a milliion times easier to install windows first then linux. if u have any questions pm me</div>

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</div>I already have Windows installed. I'm going to install it on this machine that I am currently posting from, the one seen in the specs in my sig <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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and dangerousHobo, that's a good idea! I didn't even think about that! Thanks <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" />
 
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