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One of my friends wants to build his first computer, and ive been helping him decide what to buy. Well, it got me thinking, is a dual core cpu still good enough that it will last him at least 1.5-2 years without any performance issues? I see more and more games coming out that put a quad core in the recommended specs(eg. bfbc2, dragon age), and i was wondering if a phenom II x2 555 would do the job(i doubt he wants to take the time to unlock cores). Also, I compared the i3 530 to the phenom 955 on anandtech and it shows the 2 cpus being close to eachother, but the i3 is cheaper, and a dual core. So, would a dual core cpu meet his needs to play games on high/max settings for atleast a year? Or is a quad core the "norm" for new builds?
 

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Quad Core would be your best bet nowadays since AMD makes some really good ones for low prices. Dual cores should only be had for simple budget builds for mainstream users that only browse internets and use office programs.

What's his CPU budget?
 

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i believe he told me his budget was around $700 total, so im looking at cpus around 100-150 dollars
 

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Depends on your budget. Games aren't even utilizing quads as a fad yet, maybe within the next year or two it will be common. A 555be OC'ed with a nice gpu will definitely suffice for gaming. The 6mb of l3 cache split 2 ways also helps a lot. Remember the Phenom II Heka tri core oem is also a nice option as well.
 

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dual cores are amazing. theyre overlooked on OCN simply because theyre not quads or i7s..but really, my core 2 duo is an absolute champ. get him an E8500 and a great GPU. it will help him more in gaming.

and before i get flamed for recommending a dual core, ITS TRUE! i have a dual, and i get great framerats in BF:BC2 and dirt 2, and the saboteur. all three of which recommend quad cores. theres a reason why the E8500 and E8600 are still priced high on newegg
 

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Why not get a quad in this day and age as programs and games are taking advantage of quads more and more. With the pricing of AMD's quads it would be silly not to get one. As a gamer that went from a e6600 to my Q9300 I noticed an increase in performance in everything, so get a cheap AMD quad and be happy.
 

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Dual cores can still kick some serious ass. An E2200 @3.15GHz tided me over for a long time, and when I upgraded to quad? NOT as HUGE a difference as everyone makes it out to be. Noticeable and appreciated, but I could live without.

A Phenom II X2 550 or 555 would be my choice for that budget, or better yet consider the Phenom II X3 720BE which is a very good compromise between cores and clock speed and price.

For graphics the Radeon 4860 is a great budget option, but personally I'd go for a Radeon 5770.

DON'T skimp on the power supply. For a single GPU rig something like the Corsair CX400W should suffice. Don't get conned into getting a low-quality PSU just because it has a high wattage rating and low price.
 

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ya, im thinking of going either 940 or 955 for cpu, and a 5750 for the gpu. Ive been wanting to get myself the money to get 2 5770s to crossfire in my new build, but im jusssst short, so i will continue to wait and hope that the price stays low for 5770s
 

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Still using my dual core in my sig rig, bought it for $60 CAD used! Never really thought of upgrading it yet!
 

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ya, im thinking of going either 940 or 955 for cpu, and a 5750 for the gpu. Ive been wanting to get myself the money to get 2 5770s to crossfire in my new build, but im jusssst short, so i will continue to wait and hope that the price stays low for 5770s

You'd get better results form a 720BE and a 5770. Graphics card has more effect on gaming performance than the CPU. And if you're lucky the 720 will unlock to a quad anyway.
 

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I came up with a build that your friend might find interesting that fits his budget.
Everything is Free shipping so this one is definitely worth a serious consideration.



Phenom II X4 955 + Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H $280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.353112

G.Skill 4GB 2x2 DDR3 1600 $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231193

XFX Radeon HD 5770 $155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150462

Samsung Spinpoint F3 HDD $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152226

LG SATA DVD burner $23
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136168

OCZ Modular 600w PSU $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341017

Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147144

Grand Total: 742.92 Shipped

(EDIT: To be honest, I'm taking a second look into that Rosewill case, it looks really good and has some great features. All black inside, plenty of ventilation, top exhaust, bottom mounted PSU, fan filters etc. I was just searching for stuff by free shipping method and found that case to be very interesting.)
 

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You'd get better results form a 720BE and a 5770. Graphics card has more effect on gaming performance than the CPU. And if you're lucky the 720 will unlock to a quad anyway.

Hmm, i see your point, thanks
 

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I came up with a build that your friend might find interesting that fits his budget.
Everything is Free shipping so this one is definitely worth a serious consideration.



Phenom II X4 955 + Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H $280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.353112

G.Skill 4GB 2x2 DDR3 1600 $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231193

XFX Radeon HD 5770 $155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150462

Samsung Spinpoint F3 HDD $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152226

LG SATA DVD burner $23
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136168

OCZ Modular 600w PSU $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341017

Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147144

Grand Total: 742.92 Shipped

The OCZ ModXStream 600W is garbage. The StealthXStream is good, but the ModXStream is total trash. He *would* be better off with a Corsair CX400W or VX450W and it'd be cheaper too.

Also, he might need, oh, an operating system?
 

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Also, he might need, oh, an operating system?

Dont worry about the OS, his dad works for some company and has several copies of 7
 

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Make sure you get a good, quality motherboard with the AMD 790X/FX chipset and Advanced Clock Calibration if you want to attempt an unlock. The good mobo is a must for it to be a stable unlock, the AMD chipset helps a ton, and ACC is the setting you change in order to unlock it.

No ACC? No unlock. Poor quality mobo? Unstable unlock if it unlocks at all. Non-AMD chipset? Could work fine, could fail to unlock at all, kinda hit-and-miss, which isn't good with a hit-and-miss affair to begin with.
 

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I have a lowly 3800 X2 and it plays most everything out there! My video card holds me back more than the cpu. So, in my opinion dual core is still sufficent untill more games utilize multithreading.
 
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