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[Engadget] AMD proposes new laptop battery life metrics, Intel is like "whatevs"

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AMD has struggled of late to produce anything akin to a "good idea," but we've got to give a serious high five to senior VP and CMO Nigel Dessau on this one. While pumping gas one day and thinking about the low / high MPG ratings on vehicles, he began to wonder why laptops are being left out of that scheme. Handsets have talk time / standby time, PMPs have separate longevity ratings for audio and video -- so why on Earth are we generally given just a single figure for laptops? Testing has shown that almost always the quoted figures from laptop makers aren't even close to what users get in the real world, so Dessau is suggesting we implement a "guide rail" system that explains a maximum and minimum life expectancy. As for Intel's take? "There are many ways to measure battery life. We believe the best way to determine how to measure battery life is by making proposals and debating it in industry consortiums and not via a blog post." Oh Intel, could you possibly be any more corporate?
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hmm, apparently there is a brain or two still left at AMD... good idea
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so why on Earth are we generally given just a single figure for laptops?
a) Way too many ways to measure it.

I can think of 36 different completely valid ways to measure the battery life of my Lenovo T400:

- 3 different brightness settings, 100%, 50-60%, and 0%
- Normal internet browsing, gaming, video playback(divx/mpeg), dvd playback, no internet (eg. word processing), and idling
- Using GMA 4500 or HD 3470

3x6x2 = 36

b) Too depressing.

The vast majority of laptops out there get maybe 3 hours under normal conditions and around 1 hour doing anything interesting. People don't want to hear that. They want to hear things like Apple saying its newest iPod gets 36 hours of battery life (with the screen off the whole time listening to 32kbps audio on the lowest volume
)

IMO they should just give you the wattage. Like 20W normal, 40W load plus 10-20W for the screen. Then let the customers to the simple math to figure out their battery life.
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It is a good idea that will benefit consumers, but AMD should be more concerned with selling processors right now.
That was hard well done amd..
Intel, find something good to say or don't say anything at all.
Why not simply run the thing at full burn (HDD/RAM/PROC/GPU) and average the results for a low and another idling figure for the high?
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IMO they should just give you the wattage. Like 20W normal, 40W load plus 10-20W for the screen. Then let the customers to the simple math to figure out their battery life.

Ha! I hope this is some kind of joke. Do you really expect the general public to understand anything about that?
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Originally Posted by nathris
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The vast majority of laptops out there get maybe 3 hours under normal conditions and around 1 hour doing anything interesting. People don't want to hear that. They want to hear things like Apple saying its newest iPod gets 36 hours of battery life (with the screen off the whole time listening to 32kbps audio on the lowest volume
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10 hours if you crank the music
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Originally Posted by nathris
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a) Way too many ways to measure it.

I can think of 36 different completely valid ways to measure the battery life of my Lenovo T400:

- 3 different brightness settings, 100%, 50-60%, and 0%
- Normal internet browsing, gaming, video playback(divx/mpeg), dvd playback, no internet (eg. word processing), and idling
- Using GMA 4500 or HD 3470

3x6x2 = 36

b) Too depressing.

The vast majority of laptops out there get maybe 3 hours under normal conditions and around 1 hour doing anything interesting. People don't want to hear that. They want to hear things like Apple saying its newest iPod gets 36 hours of battery life (with the screen off the whole time listening to 32kbps audio on the lowest volume
)

IMO they should just give you the wattage. Like 20W normal, 40W load plus 10-20W for the screen. Then let the customers to the simple math to figure out their battery life.

I'd like them to always show how much mAh the battery have so that can measure ow much the PC will run before depleting all the power from the battery.
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Some worker at AMD took 5 minutes to post in a blog and everyone jumps on them for wasted time.
advertising advertising advertising advertising!!

all AMD got to do is make a few mroe TV Commercials that catch the eyes. then people WILL start buying AMD.

just look how sucessful socket478 Pentium 4 was, 9/10 PC i fix S478 P4

Don't tell me they don't have money to make TV Commercials

EDIT: and that 1/10 is either a 775 P4 or Celeron, so far i only receive 2x AMD system, and the customer thought that's using a "eMachine" CPU
Just make a program that maxes out everything the computer has 100%, sound, volume, internet, hdd, cd, and just see how long it lasts.
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Originally Posted by nathris
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IMO they should just give you the wattage. Like 20W normal, 40W load plus 10-20W for the screen. Then let the customers to the simple math to figure out their battery life.

Since when are most customers smart enough?
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Didn't even know AMD was still working on laptop stuff...
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"There are many ways to measure battery life. We believe the best way to determine how to measure battery life is by making proposals and debating it in industry consortiums and not via a blog post."
Maybe it's because I'm tired, but I laughed pretty hard.
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Didn't even know AMD was still working on laptop stuff...

Puma platform would be my laptop of choice buddy. Then grab one of their new HD4K laptop GPUs and call it a day.
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Didn't even know AMD was still working on laptop stuff...

what? their chipsets are way better. if it weren't for the c2ds, amd's are a far better option.
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RMClock shows you the amperage and maximum amperage of your battery, which allows you to know how your battery still holds a charge and how fast it is consumed according to usage if you do the math!
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