hmm a $100 cheaper sounds like i might be able to get myself a great OS drive
[Engadget] Intel's 34nm-based 320GB solid state drive creeps closer to reality
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Hankering for an SSD that's as big as your traditional HDD? So is Intel, or so we hear. In fact, we've been hearing whispers that a capacious 320GB solid state drive was in the works since January, and now those whispers have been upgraded to library-like voices. According to the generally reliable Golum, Intel's so-called Postville SSD family is well on its way to reality, and with them should come much needed price drops. The new series should top out at 320GB, with an 80GB and 160GB version falling underneath. Word on the street has it that both of the smaller two will be around $100 cheaper than the same-sized X25-M drives, though there's been no leaks on the 320GB model's MSRP. Still, Intel has a golden opportunity here if it'll just get these things to market -- a cheap(er) SSD with a brand name like Intel could blow the solid state market wide open. |
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Wow, sizes increasing quite a lot now.
I may get one for that price now
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I may get one for that price now
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Slowly, they will become the normal drives for absolutely everybody (except in some cases for data security against crashes).
Just look, at the time of the launch, the Q6600 was $870.
Now almost everybody has a Q6600, or has a chip that costed around the actual price ($170). That's $700 less.
So I can't wait for pass 2-3 years for the SSD to become a normal part on a comp.
Originally Posted by trueg50 Getting there, but knocking $100 brings them to "only" $210 ish, still kind of pricey. Enthusiasts wouldn't care (and haven't) but for SSD's to really take off would take more of a $150 price drop to really make SSD's replace HDD's for most people. |
Just look, at the time of the launch, the Q6600 was $870.
Now almost everybody has a Q6600, or has a chip that costed around the actual price ($170). That's $700 less.
So I can't wait for pass 2-3 years for the SSD to become a normal part on a comp.
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That's why you use it as the OS drive, and do not store anything that you cannot afford to lose. I already do this with my raptor, OS and games, my other drive is for all of my media, and even that drive is backed up onto an external drive as well.
Originally Posted by hackm0d Still not of much interest to me. I'm not going to be storing my data on an overhyped memory card instead of reliable, proven mechanical technology. Once they have foolproof systems like S.M.A.R.T or get cheap enough to sling in RAID1, they're not worthbuying. |
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Isn't your OS important? With all the browser bookmarks, savegames, etc?
Originally Posted by lordikon That's why you use it an the OS drive, and do not store anything that you cannot afford to lose. I already do this with my raptor, OS and games, my other drive is for all of my media, and even that drive is backed up onto an external drive as well. |
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Bookmarks can be re-bookmarked, savegames can be recreated in time.
Photos of your family or yourself with a friend can't be redone.
Or hey, force the game you're playing store its savegames on the drisk you're backing up.
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And, I thought SSDs were supposed to be MORE reliable than Mechanical HDDs. Something about no moving parts or some craaazy thing like that, certainly can't affect drive life. Those MTBFs are useless anyhow
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Originally Posted by hackm0d Isn't your OS important? With all the browser bookmarks, savegames, etc? |
Photos of your family or yourself with a friend can't be redone.
Or hey, force the game you're playing store its savegames on the drisk you're backing up.
And, I thought SSDs were supposed to be MORE reliable than Mechanical HDDs. Something about no moving parts or some craaazy thing like that, certainly can't affect drive life. Those MTBFs are useless anyhow
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yeah, but that's what backups are for, you can back up to a traditional hard drive.
Originally Posted by hackm0d Isn't your OS important? With all the browser bookmarks, savegames, etc? |
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LOL... SMART only works half the time. I believe Google's server stat report said that SMART helps to prevent failure only ~57%. Foolproof? Hardly.
Also, a flash memory corruption is much much much better than a hard drive failure. With SSD, the memory cells get corrupted individually over time. A HDD failure can mean total data loss.
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No. Save important files to a separate drive and back up that drive. You can always just reinstall.
Originally Posted by hackm0d Still not of much interest to me. I'm not going to be storing my data on an overhyped memory card instead of reliable, proven mechanical technology. Once they have foolproof systems like S.M.A.R.T or get cheap enough to sling in RAID1, they're not worthbuying. |
LOL... SMART only works half the time. I believe Google's server stat report said that SMART helps to prevent failure only ~57%. Foolproof? Hardly.
Also, a flash memory corruption is much much much better than a hard drive failure. With SSD, the memory cells get corrupted individually over time. A HDD failure can mean total data loss.
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Originally Posted by hackm0d Isn't your OS important? With all the browser bookmarks, savegames, etc? |
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Defeating the whole point of having an SSD in the first place. You may as well buy a 300GB velociraptor and short-stroke it to 3GB. You'll get similar performance for almost the same price. I think.
I'd wait a few years for it to get reliable enough to actually store data on, plus buy it for less. Currently there are hideous controller issues, fragmentation issues leading to slowdowns etc.
Originally Posted by {core2duo}werd yeah, but that's what backups are for, you can back up to a traditional hard drive. |
I'd wait a few years for it to get reliable enough to actually store data on, plus buy it for less. Currently there are hideous controller issues, fragmentation issues leading to slowdowns etc.
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the point of a ssd is performance that can't be matched by any hard drive, even short stroked to only 3GB. which by the way would be useless. so far they have been reliable enough to store data on, but no one knows how they will stack up in the long run, because the tech hasn't been around for long enough.
even with fragmentation issues they are still TONS faster than a conventional hard drive, and the vertex series, along with many others have no issues with their controllers.
Originally Posted by hackm0d Defeating the whole point of having an SSD in the first place. You may as well buy a 300GB velociraptor and short-stroke it to 3GB. You'll get similar performance for almost the same price. I think. I'd wait a few years for it to get reliable enough to actually store data on, plus buy it for less. Currently there are hideous controller issues, fragmentation issues leading to slowdowns etc. |
even with fragmentation issues they are still TONS faster than a conventional hard drive, and the vertex series, along with many others have no issues with their controllers.
you can also reinstall an OS in literally no time now
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You think wrong. A good SSD will still wipe the floor in response time, throughput, and IOPs.
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The controller issues is with TWO controllers. Both by Micron and both the same controller design (one is overclocked). A fragmented slow SSD is still faster than a HDD.
There are arguments against SSD but none of yours hold up.
Originally Posted by hackm0d Defeating the whole point of having an SSD in the first place. You may as well buy a 300GB velociraptor and short-stroke it to 3GB. You'll get similar performance for almost the same price. I think. |
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There are arguments against SSD but none of yours hold up.
Once windows 7 comes out, a nice raid of these will be perfect
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I just can't argue with Duckie when it comes to persistent storage mediums.
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Well, to be honest, I would've sprung for SSDs if it wasn't for the price.
Well, to be honest, I would've sprung for SSDs if it wasn't for the price.
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