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EP45-UD3P / E8400 Overclock help needed

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Lads,
I'm stumped. This is a call to action. Rise up and lend a hand to your fellow man. Build details are below. Here's the issue I'm seeing:

I have an e8400 oc'd to 4ghz and it seems stable (8hrs in OCCT and prime95, runs fine in super Pi, MemTest, etc). It never throws BSOD, but fairly often it won't POST (perhaps as often as 30% of the time). I'll get the long system beep and then it'll start up at default speeds and run just fine. If I then restart and go into BIOS, under M.I.T, I see a popup message that says "The system has experienced boot failures because of overclocking or changes to voltages". I can then exit and save the BIOS with the overclocked values and boot up successfully. I've got no clue why POSTing would fail when the PC seems stable in practice.

I would really appreciate some help here. One thing I read in a different forum post http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...king-help.html
said that the 2.40B strap is bugged - not sure if that would cause this issue.

Another thing to note. I've looked around the net for general OC advice for my board and cpu and it seems that other people require much higher voltages (for example: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25...ility-problems). If I go anywhere near the VCore suggested there, my temps go off the charts. Just wanted to mention that before someone says my VCore looks way too low.

BIOS (Award F8) settings:
MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............:Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:9x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................:4.00 (445x9)

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz 445
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: [Auto]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 330
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1068
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD ......................................... 5
tRP'........................................... 5
tRAS.......................................... 15

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD........................................... 4
tWTR.......................................... 4
tWR............................................ 13
tRFC........................................... 68
tRTP........................................... 4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................ All items Auto

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:8
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:8
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
CPU
Load-Line Calibration..................:[Enabled]
CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.18750V (default was 1.116250V)
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V

CPU Referen.…………....0.76

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V
MCH Reference….…….0.76V
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......1.00V (was 0.90V)
ICH I/O……………….....1.50V
ICH Core…………...……1.100V

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....2.1V
DRAM Termination .…1.05V
Channel A Reference 1.05V
Channel B Reference 1.05V

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]
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That is usually an indication of RAM not being happy. Try upping your RAM voltage a little, say, 2.15.
agreed, up your memory voltage its probably not posting during the memory test!
If it isn't the RAM I'd look into a different power supply. Rosewill has a mix of average and garbage power supplies, and as yours appears to only get 72% efficiency I'm thinking it might fall into the latter category.
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Another thing to note. I've looked around the net for general OC advice for my board and cpu and it seems that other people require much higher voltages If I go anywhere near the VCore suggested there, my temps go off the charts. Just wanted to mention that before someone says my VCore looks way too low.

I'd say you need more voltage. If your temps go too high, there is something wrong there. Maybe you can reseat your CPU heat sink. They shouldn't go too high. You should easily be able to get to 1.3 without overheating your CPU. How did you apply the thermal compound?
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Thanks for the quick responses. I'll try upping the RAM voltage and see how that works out. That probably would have been the last thing I would have looked into, since that's the voltage that GSkill recommends for this board. So, if that works out, then you have saved me a BUNCH of time tinkering with other settings.
i think you might need a little more mch core, but to ask those with the most knowledge of this board come join the party in here coz thats where they all hang out
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Since all seems well once you're in the OS I think that PSU might be the issue. The reason I say that is because it just might not be pushing enough juice to the system right at the boot so the board will fail with the OCing settings. But without really playing with it, it's hard to say, oh and the RAM voltage is a good idea to check/up like others have said.
So, I've tinkered with the RAM voltages - no luck there. Tried 2.12, 2.14, and 2.16 and all failed POST at least once.
I think x2s3w4 has a valid point about my temps. I will reseat, but I think that will just help lower temps, not solve my POST problems. I did some additional tinkering (it was a long night up with a new baby, so I had some time on my hands...lol) with VCore and MCH. Got up to VCore 1.25 and MCH 1.2, but that still failed POST.
dude post in the thread i linked to above, people in there are gurus with this board and they will tell you if its a board thing or psu thing.

thinking about it and after what you said there it does sound more like its the psu struggling when its cold but i would still ask in that thread.
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dude post in the thread i linked to above, people in there are gurus with this board and they will tell you if its a board thing or psu thing.

thinking about it and after what you said there it does sound more like its the psu struggling when its cold but i would still ask in that thread.

Advice taken! I posted in that other thread and already got a few replies that agree that MCH core needs some work.

I'll have a look into the PSU if the MCH doesn't pan out.
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