[EfemaN]

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Reduce your total cost of ownership, free up desk space, and eliminate the provisioning, maintenance, and support of desktop PCs while still providing a true uncompromised PC experience. The EVGA PD02 PCoIP is a true Zero Client that provides a small footprint, low power operation, centralized virus protection, operating system versatility, and full USB device support. Centralized computing is now a truly viable option for all user types, either locally via LAN or remotely via WAN.

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I just got an e-mail from EVGA on this. I'm not familiar with other similar options, but I thought this was pretty slick. Hell, if it's economical and available to anyone, it could probably be used to set up a media station in an entertainment room, streaming off of the actual rig in another room, if I understood the applications correctly (it's obviously meant for commercial use, I know).

 

[Phaedrus2129]

Why, hello 1979. What's that? Mainframe came to visit me? Oh, how nice. Let me just replace my PC with a dumb terminal so we can catch up!

 

[OmegaNemesis28]

Very cool stuff. I can see this being a very critical component in any kind of engineer's equipment. Very cool to see smooth remote CAD support without any latency. Can anyone say productivity?

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 Why, hello 1979. What's that? Mainframe came to visit me? Oh, how nice. Let me just replace my PC with a dumb terminal so we can catch up!

....that's not the purpose of it.

 

[Eduardv]

This looks interesting

 

[Lostcase]

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 Why, hello 1979. What's that? Mainframe came to visit me? Oh, how nice. Let me just replace my PC with a dumb terminal so we can catch up!

From the corner of my eye, it looked like your avatar was holding a phone and just said that quote. lol

 

[billj214]

This would be great to replace my PC on all of my TV's where I can just have 1 server PC powerful enough to play live TV, movies and music on all of my other TV's.

I currently have:
Theater room - QX9770, GTX280, Blu-ray, 40g SSD, 3tb storage, 650w P/S
Office - Core i7 950, GTX280 SLI, 80g SSD 850w P/S
Living room - Q9450, ATI 4830 430w P/S
Bedroom - P4 3.2, 80g, ATI 9600, 350w P/S
Kids room - P4 3.2, 120g Nvidia 6600gt 350w P/S

Imagine how much money I would save on electricity!
60hz would mean no 3D and I imagine Blu-ray HDCP would not work.

 

[Varjo]

Could you game on this, or, with multiple graphics cards in the server rig, could multiple people game on this?

 

[Phaedrus2129]

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Originally Posted by Varjo Could you game on this, or, with multiple graphics cards in the server rig, could multiple people game on this?

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[rancor]

My school started using dell versions of these for the non engineering labs. They can suck more than the old computers especially for web browsing which is most of what they get used for.

 

[Varjo]

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I don't mean remotely, I mean over lan.

 

[VulcanDragon]

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 Why, hello 1979. What's that? Mainframe came to visit me? Oh, how nice. Let me just replace my PC with a dumb terminal so we can catch up!

I don't know why people try to compare VDI to a green screen mainframe terminal. It's not the same.

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Originally Posted by rancor My school started using dell versions of these for the non engineering labs. They can suck more than the old computers especially for web browsing which is most of what they get used for.

A virtual desktop should not consume any more resources than an individual desktop, it's doing the exact same work. And fewer resources are actually provisioned in aggregate, because people that don't need to access 4GB of RAM won't be provisioned 4GB of RAM (for example).

That said, the ROI for VDI is not anywhere near the ROI for server virtualization if you try to measure them the same way. The most benefit actually comes from reducing your operational support costs for your PC techs, not savings in hardware.

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Originally Posted by Varjo Could you game on this, or, with multiple graphics cards in the server rig, could multiple people game on this?

That would be unlikely to be a good experience, I would think. Especially on a zero-footprint client. VDI client terminals that even want to stream media are best served by having some basic graphics capabilities in the terminal.

 

[dave12]

Can someone explain what this thing is for. I'm too dumb to figure it out.

 

[Razultull]

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you've obviously never heard of onlive

Honestly, i don't trust EVGA with this kind of thing, they are most probably outsourcing it...better to stick with the pros with something like this...

 

[VulcanDragon]

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Originally Posted by dave12 Can someone explain what this thing is for. I'm too dumb to figure it out.

It's for corporate desktops. Instead of buying and maintaining a bunch of PCs that need to be replaced each year, you give them a virtual desktop that runs on a server. There are many flavors of desktop virtualization, this is but one of them. It truly is NOT for 99.99% of home users, which is what I think is confusing people since this is from EVGA, and we (or at least I) associate EVGA with consumer devices.

You'll notice I left room for there to be 0.01% of home users that this would be viable for. Because in theory you could give something like this to, say, your kids as "their PC". But you would need a centalized "big PC"/server and VMWare licenses to make it work. I'm sure someone will do it at home, but it's not quite there yet.

 

[nukefission]

Damn I saw this a while ago while lurking evga.
thought it was old news >_>

 

[Phaedrus2129]

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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon I don't know why people try to compare VDI to a green screen mainframe terminal. It's not the same.

In the technical nitty gritty, no. But conceptually it's the same thing. You have a central server/mainframe, and connected to it are dozens of thin clients/terminals that are given limited access to the mainframe's resources.

The only major innovation is the ability to have multiple types of clients and less reliance on mere passwords to limit access to systems.

 

[xdanisx]

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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon It's for corporate desktops. Instead of buying and maintaining a bunch of PCs that need to be replaced each year, you give them a virtual desktop that runs on a server. There are many flavors of desktop virtualization, this is but one of them. It truly is NOT for 99.99% of home users, which is what I think is confusing people since this is from EVGA, and we (or at least I) associate EVGA with consumer devices. You'll notice I left room for there to be 0.01% of home users that this would be viable for. Because in theory you could give something like this to, say, your kids as "their PC". But you would need a centalized "big PC"/server and VMWare licenses to make it work. I'm sure someone will do it at home, but it's not quite there yet.

So with this, I'll pretty much have access to a render farm if I'm rendering? Am I understanding things correctly?

 

[Riou]

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Originally Posted by xdanisx So with this, I'll pretty much have access to a render farm if I'm rendering? Am I understanding things correctly?

It is just a very weak and cheap video/audio kiosk. These multiple "thin clients" connect over a network to a much more powerful server.

Server does all the processing -> encodes video/audio -> transmit data -> thin client receives data -> decompresses video/audio -> you see stuff on the thin client