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Well I just ran a few benchmarks to compare to my EVGA GTX 460 SC...and the results aren't what I expected. And yes I do notice I am running dual channel, but it was ram scrapped from my old rig. I read that it wouldn't effect much, I think. I have the i7 at 4 Ghz and the gpu's were both ran at stock speeds.
Here's heaven benchmark with normal tessellation on the 460:


470:


Extreme tessellation 460:


470:


Mafia 2 everything maxed 460:


Mafia 2 everything maxed 470:


Am I expecting too much or are these not enough benchmarks to determine the performance gaps?
Edit - Drivers used are the 260.63 betas, all done with clean installs
 

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put the 470 at the same clocks a the 460 - then you should really see it pull away
 

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You're looking at around 10-15% advantage in perf there and the 460 is clocked around 11% higher. What you're seeing is roughly the expected difference between the two cards at stock clocks.

Why do you think people are so high on the GTX460 around here, and why do you think 470's have come down so much in price in recent months? This result you're seeing answers both those questions


However, when they are clocked the same the 470 would probably be up by 20-25% though.

Staryoshi is going to be doing one of his awesome reviews comparing his old 460 to his new 470 soon (right SY?) so keep an eye out for that
 

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Put your voltage at it's max and set these clocks: 850/1700/1900 and you'll see that 470 rocket away from the 460.
Remember the the 460 only has 3/4th the shaders that the 470 has. 336/448 = 3/4.
 

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when you do these comparisons you need to OC both cards.

Yes, when the 470 hits 460 stock, the 470 pulls away, but the 460 can OC much higher than the 470.
 

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I agree, you'd need to compare 19xx x 10/12xx to more impact on your results. They 470 will do much better at higher resolutions.
 

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I agree, you'd need to compare 19xx x 10/12xx to more impact on your results. They 470 will do much better at higher resolutions.
Yup. Also I think the op should do a comparison with both cards at their max OC. It would also be worth asking how fast his processor is. He could be bottlenecked there too.
 

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Why are you all on about overclocking GTX470. compare stock to stock because each card is different and it not a fair comparision to compare at max overclocks
 

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It's already unfair. He's comparing the GTX 470 to his 460 SC, which is already overclocked a bit.
True dat,

Stock vs. Stock

What the point in overclocking the cards to the same clock speeds they don't come out of the factory that way.
 

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when you do these comparisons you need to OC both cards.

Yes, when the 470 hits 460 stock, the 470 pulls away, but the 460 can OC much higher than the 470.
eh...

I have seen gtx470's get to 900 core

Highest gtx460 clock..... I have no idea. I dont really check out the 460 because I have 470's so maybe I am missing something.
 

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Results look about right.
A GTX 470 isn't that powerful, what where you expecting?

Overclock that sucker.
 

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Two words of wisdom: First, below 1080p the gap between the two cards will generally diminish. Second, @ clock-for-clock settings or both max-oc'd, the GTX470 will assert itself more prominently.
 

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Eh still not too big of a difference if you ask me. Maybe it is a big difference and I just don't see it. 470 is at 820/1640 and 460 is at 850/1700, a few heaven runs at 1920x1200:




And for the guy who wanted a stock 460 @ 675 core:
 

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eh...

I have seen gtx470's get to 900 core

Highest gtx460 clock..... I have no idea. I dont really check out the 460 because I have 470's so maybe I am missing something.
900+ core on 470 is unusual. 900+ core on the 460 is almost standard.
 

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Eh still not too big of a difference if you ask me. Maybe it is a big difference and I just don't see it. 470 is at 820/1640 and 460 is at 850/1700, a few heaven runs at 1920x1200:
You're looking at a 30% better performance from the GTX470 there. Granted your GTX470 has a better OC than the 460 (comparably speaking). In general the GTX470 will be around 20% (more in tessellated games) faster given comparable overclocks.
 

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Eh still not too big of a difference if you ask me. Maybe it is a big difference and I just don't see it. 470 is at 820/1640 and 460 is at 850/1700, a few heaven runs at 1920x1200:




And for the guy who wanted a stock 460 @ 675 core:

Um based on your results there, that IS a big difference between the 470 and the 460
 
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