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I have posted so many times on this, and i still either get nowhere, or get somewhere very slowly.

I have this 1600+ Athlon (soon to become a 2400+ tbred since im getting angry,) and no matter what i do, it is always overheating!

I have taken off the stock cooling, replaced it with a considereably larger 'coolermaster' HS+F, put this thing to stock VCore (1.75V), Dropped the VCore lower, down to 1.6V, Underclocked the thing, and applied and RE-Applied AS5 several times. All of this, as well as side panel off, and a desk fan on it, and i am idling 51C, and hvy loading at about 58/59C. i Have seen other procs ruun on STOCK cooling WAY lower than this...Is it just cause it is a TBIRD?
I think the poiont is clear. My question is...***!!???

On the side, i am thinking of getting a 2400 XP TBred cause ive heard that they dont overheat for the world. My friend has a 2000+XP, adn in his crappy case, with one fan and stock cooling, hes loading at 51C...Seeing this does not make me happy...Just depressed. Will this 2400+ get me somewhere???

And finally, why is this damn hting running so hot. If these things are made for people such as grannies to use, withstock cooling...Why ive heard of people using these and hitting 70C!. is it just they are SUPPOSED to take a battering like that!???

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Ive had a 2100+ and it overheated no matter what. 1800 mobile has been pretty hot considering its under a thermalright SI-97(load 50c oced to 1.8) Sempron 2200+ has been folding under 50C
. All I can say is athlons run hot
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Originally Posted by steveo42024

Ive had a 2100+ and it overheated no matter what. 1800 mobile has been pretty hot considering its under a thermalright SI-97(load 50c oced to 1.8) Sempron 2200+ has been folding under 50C
. All I can say is athlons run hot
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I thought AMDs were supposed to run cooler than INTELs? Also, my move to 2400+ benificial?
 

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You may have a T-bred A they run hot as hell compared to the revised t-bred B which run cool
 

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Originally Posted by frostbite

You may have a T-bred A they run hot as hell compared to the revised t-bred B which run cool

Ill definatly look into this

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Dude, i dont have a TbredA or a Tbred B, i have a TBIRD as in Thnderbird, which are supposed to be like the palamino...Run like a volcano
 

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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE1701

Well another reason for higher temps even if you have replaced the HSF would be that high v-core you were running.

What high VCore i was running? It was running at like 1.8V, but i put it to 1.75...?
 

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Originally Posted by MangledWookie

What high VCore i was running? It was running at like 1.8V, but i put it to 1.75...?

Could be my mistake here but i swear thats a high v-core...maybe its a high v-core in intel terms thats where issues could be getting confused.
 

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Originally Posted by steveo42024

Ive had a 2100+ and it overheated no matter what. 1800 mobile has been pretty hot considering its under a thermalright SI-97(load 50c oced to 1.8) Sempron 2200+ has been folding under 50C
. All I can say is athlons run hot
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Are you nuts? athlons run cooler, but mostly just the newer ones. Your using an (how do i phrase this) way outdated processor. its going to run like an intel hot but not to hot.
 

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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE1701

Could be my mistake here but i swear thats a high v-core...maybe its a high v-core in intel terms thats where issues could be getting confused.

I think you are. The stock VCore of this baby should have been 1.75Volts, but it was running at about 1.8V when i out the jumpers on default, so i had to manually set it down. Weird. Power hungery little bastard...
Compared to Recent Intels, who run on like 1.4/1.5V...Oh well.

On this note, i thought 1.75V was high too, so i shoved it down to 1.6V, and i wasnt experienceing instability, but i was still getting a whole lot of heat...Dunno, mayb computers just dont like me.
 

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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE1701

Could be my mistake here but i swear thats a high v-core...maybe its a high v-core in intel terms thats where issues could be getting confused.

an no you are right that is a pretty high vcore i have mine at 1.5875
 

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Are you nuts? athlons run cooler, but mostly just the newer ones. Your using an (how do i phrase this) way outdated processor. its going to run like an intel hot but not to hot.

Whether it is outdated or not, it should not run like it is. It is ust downright silly...
 

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na its old, older things run hotter just cause they waste voltage(so i thought). Oh and did you let that AS5 cure for the given 200+hours?
EDIT: actually its not really wasting, just bad managment.
 

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I have a Sempron 2500+, currently running at 2310mhz @ 1.8vcore, hitting 54c at full load all the time (running seti in background). With AMD specs saying max core temp is 90c, I don't think this is a problem............or am I missing something??
 

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na its old, older things run hotter just cause they waste voltage(so i thought). Oh and did you let that AS5 cure for the given 200+hours?
EDIT: actually its not really wasting, just bad managment.

Gave it 3 weeks, and broke it in. Still overheating...
 

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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE1701

I reckon its just that CPU which has a core that just runs hot to be honest and all you can do is buy a really nice cooling solution and get some Arctic Silver 5 Thermal compound.

Here is what i am saying. I think tis a good idea to get a Tred XP, and cram the cooling i got on the thing. If stock cooling gives em 51 load, then i think i would be happy with what ive got sitting on one of them...?

Anyone agree?
 

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Well the THunderbirds and PALOMINO cores ran high voltage in today's terms at 1.75v.
It was not until the THOROUGHBREDS that the Vcore started to come down to 1.50-1.65v. The difference between the cores will be dramatic in terms of generated heat energy.

I recently set up a 1400+ THUNDERBIRD running at 161x10.5 for 1.70GHz and ran a 1.725Vcore for a nice stable setup on a SOLTEK nf2 motherboard. Heat did not appear to be a huge issue. You just got to make sure you got nice stability and the heatsink/fan is working at heat removal.

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Temps have a lot to do with the actual chip itself.

My girlie has a socket A Sempron 2800+ that though running at stock speed, with better than stock cooling runs @ approximately 50-55C on load.

Im running a socket 754 Sempron 3100+ OC'ed from 1.8GHz to 2.5Ghz and I run anywhere from 32-34C on load(25-28C idle depending on the weather
)...granted some of this can be attributed to my slightly superior cooling setup, but a good part of it is simply chip design.
 

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Originally Posted by ColdTriton

Temps have a lot to do with the actual chip itself.

My girlie has a socket A Sempron 2800+ that though running at stock speed, with better than stock cooling runs @ approximately 50-55C on load.

Im running a socket 754 Sempron 3100+ OC'ed from 1.8GHz to 2.5Ghz and I run anywhere from 32-34C on load(25-28C idle depending on the weather
)...granted some of this can be attributed to my slightly superior cooling setup, but a good part of it is simply chip design.

That may be true but in no way can you compare a 2800+ SEMPRON socketA with a THUNDERBIRD core.
 
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