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I would consider it safe <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"> and will be flashing it to my Sapphire Fury Tri-X STD edition <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"> (ETA Friday <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"> ). Only flash to one bios position so you have other position to recover from.<br><br>
In the context of your question when comparing STD edition bios vs OC edition (stock PL) there is only changes in:-<br><br>
FirmwareInfo 1 hex value 02 vs 03 (this table in Hawaii was ignored for any mods as nothing much going on).<br><br>
PowerPlayInfo have increased GPU Freq. 1000 vs 1040 and 2 unknown hex values at present.<br><br>
All IDs (DeviceID / BoardID / SubsystemID, etc) are the same between them.<br><br>
OC edition (stock PL) vs OC edition (increased PL) only changes in:-<br><br>
PowerPlayInfo by 6 values , 5 of them I currently think maybe fan or temp related and 1 is defo related to PowerLimit.<br><br>
I did mark PowerPlay way back <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1547314/official-amd-r9-radeon-fury-nano-x-x2-fiji-owners-club/5130#post_24582182">07/11/15</a> and plan to first concentrate on this table first for mods.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>gupsterg</strong> <a href="/t/1592384/fiji-bios-editing-fury-fury-x-nano#post_24928420"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
I would consider it safe <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"> and will be flashing it to my Sapphire Fury Tri-X STD edition <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"> (ETA Friday <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"> ). Only flash to one bios position so you have other position to recover from.<br><br>
In the context of your question when comparing STD edition bios vs OC edition (stock PL) there is only changes in:-<br><br>
FirmwareInfo 1 hex value 02 vs 03 (this table in Hawaii was ignored for any mods as nothing much going on).<br><br>
PowerPlayInfo have increased GPU Freq. 1000 vs 1040 and 2 unknown hex values at present.<br><br>
All IDs (DeviceID / BoardID / SubsystemID, etc) are the same between them.<br><br>
OC edition (stock PL) vs OC edition (increased PL) only changes in:-<br><br>
PowerPlayInfo by 6 values , 5 of them I currently think maybe fan or temp related and 1 is defo related to PowerLimit.<br><br>
I did mark PowerPlay way back <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1547314/official-amd-r9-radeon-fury-nano-x-x2-fiji-owners-club/5130#post_24582182">07/11/15</a> and plan to first concentrate on this table first for mods.</div>
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So on the BIOS switch that I flash this one to, it should become 1040MHz Fury right? Also would your edits negate the downclocking with VSYNC on in Crimson? Or will I still need Clockblocker?<br><br>
Also, if display doesn't show after flashing, switching the BIOS should solve it right?
 

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Yes, you will have default clock of GPU 1040MHz once you flash the Sapphire Fury Tri-X OC Edition ROM; this can be modified as well (soon be a section in OP) <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"> .<br><br>
It is very very early days in bios modding Fiji <img alt="redface.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/redface.gif"> , so at present downclocking I can't help with but hope when I have my own card I can find a solution <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"> .<br><br>
If you flash Sapphire Fury Tri-X OC Edition ROM and card does not post or have an issue in OS then I would do as I did with the 4x 290/X cards I've been playing with. Boot system with DOS USB stick using other bios position, whilst PC on switch bios position to bad flash side and flash with <span style="text-decoration:underline;">correct bios</span>.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>gupsterg</strong> <a href="/t/1592384/fiji-bios-editing-fury-fury-x-nano#post_24928973"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
Yes, you will have default clock of GPU 1040MHz once you flash the Sapphire Fury Tri-X OC Edition ROM; this can be modified as well (soon be a section in OP) <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"> .<br><br>
It is very very early days in bios modding Fiji <img alt="redface.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/redface.gif"> , so at present downclocking I can't help with but hope when I have my own card I can find a solution <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"> .<br><br>
If you flash Sapphire Fury Tri-X OC Edition ROM and card does not post or have an issue in OS then I would do as I did with the 4x 290/X cards I've been playing with. Boot system with DOS USB stick using other bios position, whilst PC on switch bios position to bad flash side and flash with <span style="text-decoration:underline;">correct bios</span>.</div>
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I'll flash the Tri-X OC BIOS over the stock one. I tested the secondary one, it works fine. So if i screw up the first flash, I can just stick with using the secondary BIOS for now.
 

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Cool <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"> , added "PowerLimit" heading and some info to OP. More info to be added once I've done some tests with my card (arriving today <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif">).<br><br>
I should be able to add heading about GPU clock editing (+per DPM) as well today <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif">.
 

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@gupsterg<br><br>
That BIOS I gave should have modded voltage as well as the power limits. I see I did the power limits wrong so I'll do a retest for the throttling today.
 
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My card has arrived also today <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"> , just gotta find time to install and then do some tests <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"> .<br><br>
We were unaware of that 270 value, you may recall I stated Hawaii had 3 values; back in Nov 15, I could only find 2 values at the time for Fiji ROM. Now how I'm more sure of values is due to being able to read pointers in PowerPlay to sections (this info will soon be added to Hawaii/Fury bios mod threads).<br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1547314/official-amd-r9-radeon-fury-nano-x-x2-fiji-owners-club/6420#post_24783409" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>The Stilt</strong> <a href="/t/1547314/official-amd-r9-radeon-fury-nano-x-x2-fiji-owners-club/6420#post_24783409"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
If the temperature is below the throttling temperature (75°C) and the power draw stays below the TDP (270W, PowerTune / Power Control @ 0%), it is definitely a driver issue and not directly related to PowerTune or PowerPlay. Disabling PowerPlay is definitely not the correct approach to solve it, since it will mess up the power management completely.</div>
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I believe it is TDC due to how in Hawaii TDC is always lower than TDP/MPDL (and equal to each other), plus we have info regarding how in Sapphire Fury OC bios is upped "PowerLimit" (I think they did not lift limit to full extent).<br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">The vBIOS switch on top of the card allows users to switch between two different vBIOS versions. One is set to a 75C temperature target that keeps the power to the GPU limited to 300W and the other version is set for an 80C GPU temperature target and a 350W power limit</div>
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Quote <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.legitreviews.com/sapphire-radeon-r9-fury-tri-x-oc-video-card-review_169018" target="_blank">from</a>.<br><br>
Anyhow testing will get to the bottom of it <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"> .<br><br>
Like I said in Fury owners club, in hawaii if TDC wasn't upped and only TDP/MPDL was card would throttle. I also experienced this on a 295X2 when doing mods for <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/6014/ENTERPRISE">@ENTERPRISE</a>.<br><br>
I hope my Fury unlocks (if I was honest I only bought it to do bios mods!LOL) ....
 

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For TDC I recommend not going over 420A. The MOSFETs are 70A at 125C and 90A at 100C but the chokes are 71A at all temps as far as I can figure out. I have a new BIOS ready to test for myslef based of the Stilt BIOS you posted but I'm leaving for an LN2 even this weekend and don't want to potentially kill my PC before I leave.
 
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+rep for info <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"> .<br><br>
Agree, I think I read AMD state good for 400A in some PR material.<br><br>
Mind doing a little test for me?<br><br>
I have added heading <b>Gaining per DPM VID information and i2cdump</b> to OP, IR3567B is responding on bus 6 id 30.<br><a class="spoiler-link H-spoiler-toggle" href="#"><strong>My dumps</strong> <span class="spoiler-help">(Click to show)</span></a><div class="spoiler-hidden"><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2718793/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2718793" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2718793/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 729px"></a></div>
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I wanna compare VID and i2cdump, strangely the dump is looking familiar to hawaii. Do you have oscilloscope to see if we change fSW of VRM what is result? looking at dump I suspect it is currently 480kHz like Hawaii.<br><br>
*** edit ***<br><br><a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/236853/NBrock">@NBrock</a> & <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/457629/Noirgheos">@Noirgheos</a><br><br>
Any chance of you guys also providing dumps? Do at stock for whichever ROM you guys are on, please attach both txts as will make comparing easier. I will attach mine also to relevant post ASAP.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>gupsterg</strong> <a href="/t/1592384/fiji-bios-editing-fury-fury-x-nano/10#post_24934760"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
+rep for info <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"> .<br><br>
Agree, I think I read AMD state good for 400A in some PR material.<br><br>
Mind doing a little test for me?<br><br>
I have added heading <b>Gaining per DPM VID information and i2cdump</b> to OP, IR3567B is responding on bus 6 id 30.<br><a class="spoiler-link H-spoiler-toggle" href="#"><strong>My dumps</strong> <span class="spoiler-help">(Click to show)</span></a><div class="spoiler-hidden"><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2718793/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2718793" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2718793/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 729px"></a></div>
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I wanna compare VID and i2cdump, strangely the dump is looking familiar to hawaii. Do you have oscilloscope to see if we change fSW of VRM what is result is gained? looking at dump I suspect it is currently 490kHz like Hawaii.<br><br>
*** edit ***<br><br><a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/236853/NBrock">@NBrock</a> & <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/457629/Noirgheos">@Noirgheos</a><br><br>
Any chance of you guys also providing dumps? Do at stock for whichever ROM you guys are on, please attach both txts as will make comparing easier. I will attach mine also to relevant post ASAP.</div>
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I can do it tonight.
 

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Will very much appreciate it <img alt="cheers.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/cheers.gif">
 

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Ok so I got the debug from AiDA 64. Where do I get the info to turn on the MSI afterburner I2C dump tool?<br><br>
This is what I found....but where do I get the values to add in here. MSIAfterburner.exe /i2cd[[],[],[]]<br><br>
it doesn't seem to paste/post correctly.
 

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need to keep my eye on this... Might try it on my fury x if you figure something good out!
 

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Hey sorry for not responding. I also don't know how to dump. I think I'll wait until you guys get some good mods going on, and then I'll flash that BIOS to one of the switches.<br><br>
Can we make requests?<br><br>
1040MHz stock,<br>
500W power limit default (will this possibly make things unstable?)<br><br>
Pretty sure stock is 450W right?<br><br>
Maybe using 500W will help me achieve 1100MHz without extra voltage, because thanks to AMD adding voltage lowers FPS. I already did try out maxed power limit sliders on stock though...
 

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@subscribers<br><br>
Heading <b>Gaining per DPM VID information and i2cdump</b> has been updated with MSI AB i2cdump video and shortcut properties info.<br><br>
Hoping today to test some edits as have been marking / viewing PowerPlay table .<br><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2719919/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2719919" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2719919/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><br><a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/457629/Noirgheos">@Noirgheos</a><br><br>
How to dump = view heading <b>Gaining per DPM VID information and i2cdump</b> in OP.<br><br>
Yes you can make requests and I will fulfil ASAP; but bare in mind that takes time away from me viewing ROM and furthering modding. Main idea is to document all mods in OP and then each person does their own modding. Whilst people do their own modding I'm hoping they will learn to explore ROM themselves and thus point out mods; this is how <span style="text-decoration:underline;">we</span> progressed with hawaii bios modding <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"> .
 

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What's the PL value in this bios?
 

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A compare of Sapphire Fury Tri-X OC stock PL & increased PL is show in image heading <b>How to edit PowerLimit</b> (with data values) <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"> .
 
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