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I know, the digital camera I use isn't the best... It's a Walmart "Digital Concepts" camera. Plus the lighting in my room is horrible. I had to get way back, turn the flash on, and use the digital zoom to get pics that weren't either entirely too bright (from the flash) or too small from being so far away.</div>
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Ack! Don't use digital zoom! All that does is strech the pictures larger but with a horrible drop in quality. Instead take them without and crop on the PC after.
 

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I drained all of the water and tore the system down... The first pic speaks for itself. The last two demonstrate water flow through the system. Theoretically flow should be higher while in use because the inlet of the pump is tied to the outlet, so there is virtually no pressure drop. I still haven't taken the block apart, however, so I don't know if the inside is covered with gunk yet. More should be to come.<br><a href="http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/d/dc/dcb282d6_vbattach33251.jpeg"><img src="http://www.overclock.net/image/id/617038/width/525/height/525/flags/LL"></a><br><a href="http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/6/6d/6d6a3d1c_vbattach33252.jpeg"><img src="http://www.overclock.net/image/id/617037/width/525/height/525/flags/LL"></a><br><a href="http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b7/b7ad1cd3_vbattach33253.jpeg"><img src="http://www.overclock.net/image/id/617036/width/525/height/525/flags/LL"></a><br><a href="http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/1/16/1631fb84_vbattach33254.jpeg"><img src="http://www.overclock.net/image/id/617035/width/525/height/525/flags/LL"></a><br><a href="http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b4/b4d83502_vbattach33255.jpeg"><img src="http://www.overclock.net/image/id/617034/width/525/height/525/flags/LL"></a>
 

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Frosty block after about 10 minutes at 13.5 volts. My temperature probe read -15.7°C at the edge of the coldplate. Definately not the -25°C I was originally seeing on my CPU. More work to go...<br />
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The second pic is my multimeter/temperature probe. I know it won't be really accurate when measuring the temperature of my block, but it should be pretty accurate when it comes to the temp of the water.<br />
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Sorry about the picture quality... This camera really isn't all I was expecting it to be. It takes good "normal" pics but really sucks at closeups and detail pictures.<br><a href="http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/9/96/96a37a1a_vbattach33256.jpeg"><img src="http://www.overclock.net/image/id/617033/width/525/height/525/flags/LL"></a><br><a href="http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/e/ed/ed9c3fc7_vbattach33257.jpeg"><img src="http://www.overclock.net/image/id/617032/width/525/height/525/flags/LL"></a>
 

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<img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> Nice! Definitely tear the block apart and clean, those diamonds definitely can pick up excess crap and block it all out.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"> Nice! Definitely tear the block apart and clean, those diamonds definitely can pick up excess crap and block it all out.</div>
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I'm hoping that is the problem, but I'm having a tough time finding my dang allen wrenches <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Mad">. Off to the hardware store I go!
 

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Well I didn't make it to the hardware store, my car took a dump on me so I spent the rest of the night changing a dang water pump. <img src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Mad" class="inlineimg" /> <img src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Mad" class="inlineimg" /> My main computer is still in pieces, and it doesn't look like I'll get the water system back up for a while. I may just end up putting the stock HSF back on until I can get a Tuniq Tower or something that I can test an air HSF with... Besides, my processor doesn't really benefit from the cold. It was perfectly stable today idling at 50°C.<br />
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Just thinking out loud... Would anyone want to buy a 437w Arctic Web, two heatercores, a Maze4 GPU, and a Seltz L35? I'm not going to be upgrading my processor any time soon, and it's just as comfortable at 50°C as it is -20°C...
 

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I would have pounced on that Pinhead-227, but I already have a E6300 ordered. They don't give off too much heat, so I don't need subzero Temperatures.
 

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</div>Lol, its the inside that matters. <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
 

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Well, as it turns out there was nothing wrong with my TEC. My mobo is reporting the wrong temperatures. I installed the stock HSF just so I could use it while I take apart my TEC, and the BIOS reads 72C... At first I freaked out, hit the kill switch and reinstalled the HSF. After redoing it twice the temperatures still report 72C. HOWEVER while watching the temperature reading, I noticed that it jumps from 72C straight down to 42C every once in a while. I think I've got a bad temp sensor. I don't know how that's possible, however, since the diode should be in the CPU (right??). Does this happen often with X2 3800+ processors, or AMDs in general? Or is it something in the motherboard? I'm kind of disappointed now, since I took everything apart for no reason.
 

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It's good to take everything apart every once in a while <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"><br><br>
Perhaps- I would look into this issue further- find out if it is on-die or on-board...That is very weird.
 

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There should be two seperate probes; one on the mobo reporting socket temps and one inside the CPU reporting core temps. On my setup the core temp is very jumpy; meaning it'll jump a 10c range almost instantly on load testing while the mobo probe slowly rises upwards and allways sits slightly below the core temp when it levels off. When playing games the core will jump up and down all over the place while the socket probe will give a nice avarage temperature for the overall load. <br />
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Now if I could only figure out why my new mobo won't boot without a reset after being turned off for more then 3 hours. I'm so tired of having my computer in pieces that I've memorized all my bios settings and soldered a 2-way switch on the bios-reset jumper pins so I can just flick the switch to reset <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Well, as it turns out there was nothing wrong with my TEC. My mobo is reporting the wrong temperatures. I installed the stock HSF just so I could use it while I take apart my TEC, and the BIOS reads 72C... At first I freaked out, hit the kill switch and reinstalled the HSF. After redoing it twice the temperatures still report 72C. HOWEVER while watching the temperature reading, I noticed that it jumps from 72C straight down to 42C every once in a while. I think I've got a bad temp sensor. I don't know how that's possible, however, since the diode should be in the CPU (right??). Does this happen often with X2 3800+ processors, or AMDs in general? Or is it something in the motherboard? I'm kind of disappointed now, since I took everything apart for no reason.</div>

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</div>when i had my setup a while back,same thing happened to me. I had my +3800 X2 @3.1 using tec but my MoBO sensor crapped out and was reading 80c
 

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Hmm.. I wonder if it's a processor fault? It seems strange that we were both using X2 3800's and had the same problem when running subzero temps. Interesting.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Hmm.. I wonder if it's a processor fault? It seems strange that we were both using X2 3800's and had the same problem when running subzero temps. Interesting.</div>

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</div>Pinhead,I dont know if its the cpu or the board cause i was using the same board also. I will go find my Old thread about it.
 

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hi i use speed fan which tells me my MB cpu reading and cpu's cpu core reading so i suppose if you used this it would show wheather your MB or cpu is giving you the wrong reading...just a thaught<br />
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My sensors have both been off ever since I overclocked [running a P4 so it might not be just AMD] I have an Abit IS7-G if that helps, it says my CPU is from 35-40C and case is around 27]. I have put one of my wireless temperature sensors in my case and it has never been more than 2 degrees above ambient temp while inside the case so I know they're wrong.
 
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