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right so im looking to build a gaming build, ive decided what i want to buy atm, will probably be completly different after u guys give me some quality guidance buy hey
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ill probably have enough for my build just after easter, so i have lots of time to change my mind, i just want to know if below is a good build an if it will all fit an be compatible.

motherboard £100ish
Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3

cpu £75ish
AMD Athlon II X4 640

cpu fan £17
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-Cooling-Freezer-Rev-2-Cooler/dp/B002G392ZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=computers&qid=1294155391&sr=8-1]Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 [/URL]

ram £40
http://www.amazon.co.uk/CORSAIR-4GB-1333MHz-DDR3-Memory/dp/B002D11C6U/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1294357367&sr=1-6]CORSAIR 4GB 1333MHz CL9 DDR3 Memory Kit[/URL]

case £30
cit mars gaming blue
case £36
Godspeed Two Advanced
or
In Win Griffin

graphics card possibilitys
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-HD5770-GDDR5-Graphics-Card/dp/B002ZO3D76/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1293932060&sr=1-1]hd 5770 £100[/URL]
or
6850 £130

hard drive £43
will probably raid 10 these later
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-HD103SJ-internal-SATAII-7200RPM/dp/B002MQC0P8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292813530&sr=8-1]samsung spinpoint f3[/URL]

power supply £40
700w modular

so obvious questions
1. is it all compatible/will it all fit
2. is that cpu good value and will it bottleneck if i get crossfire with either cards
3. is the case a good one? and are cit a good value brand?
4. which card should i get?
5.will that power supply run the system with crossfired 6850s?

the total price of the above components are
£450 with the 5770
and £475 with the 6850
anything which you think is not up to standards please let me know and why and also a suggestion to what i should get
£400-£600 is about my price range and ssds are a no go for me with this budget atm
 

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I would say go for the 6850 as it would come out to be only 25 quid more but ..."It's the newer generation, refined chipset. Performs better. The 6850 actually outperforms the ATI 5830, which is better than the ATI 5770."
 

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cool, do you know if its all compatible an wether i should look into better quality products for the case and psu, and if the cpu is any good? i will probably be overclocking it to around the 3.5ghz mark
 

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Cpu is fine if most of what you're going to be doing is gaming. Ram is ddr3 dual channel which is what the mobo and cpu support. I would recommend getting a different case because of airflow. The better the airflow the lower the ambient temperature in the case, and better temps.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antec-Three-Hundred-Midi-Case/dp/B0017Q8IAA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1294359587&sr=1-1]Antec Three Hundred Midi Case: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[/URL]
a bit more expensive but Imo better, but aesthetically I could see why you wouldn't like it.
Psu is fine if you're going to be using the cards in crossfire, if not then I would get a less powerful one, maybe about 600w or less.
 

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haha yeah i know the case isnt good for airflow, i was thinking of somehow modding it with a pair of 120mm fans on the top with a grill, and tbh the look of that case makes me sick haha, i really think its ugly, i have heard a few things about it, an i know antec is a good make but can you not recomend a cheapish case with good airflow that isnt so ugly?
 

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It's a custom built rig. Get something better than cheapo generic 1333 9-9-9 prebuilt memory. You've got a choice: use it.
 

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I would recommend a different case
 

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i thought it only does 1333 except when overclocked, and as its my first build i dont know how i would overclock and dont really want to be overclocking as soon as it arrives in order for it to work correctly
can you please link to ram that you would recomend?
 

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Should go on Ebuyer try and find all your parts on there. Easier to send items back if faulty and it all should arrive together so your not waiting around for the parts.
 

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Ebuyer doesnt have all the parts(so i will still be waiting on other parts) and for the parts that it does have makes it more expensive
 

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For gaming, that CPU is fine. The 6850 is much better than the 5770, so I think it is worth spending a little extra on it. On Monday I ordered parts for a new AMD rig and chose an HD6850, the same motherboard as you are looking at, a Spinpoint F3, and 1600 c9 RAM. For a PSU I chose a 520W modular unit by SeaSonic. The case is an Antec 300.

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that board can use upto 2000
get some 1600 c8 or better for it
This.

"Overclocking" you RAM to 1600 is as simple as going into BIOS (usually by pressing DEL or F1 when the computer first starts to boot - there will be a message about what key to press), then picking that speed from a menu. It is not at all complicated, you just need to buy RAM that can run at that speed.

Overclocking the CPU is a little more complicated as there are several variables that can be tweaked. Overclocking RAM is easy - you just use the settings it tells you to on the box.
 

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so i can buy any speed ram between 1333 and 2000? and i can just enter the speed in the bios and it will run at that speed?
 

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ive just been shown a very in depth look into what to look for when building a computer, and it apears i was wrong with the ram which i thought was good *face palm*
the lower the latencies the better the ram and the higher the clock speeds the better the ram
so will i be able to run 1600mhz ram on my build on the first post? i will post the ram i am looking at in links below, please inform me which are best and which i would are better performance for the price.
the first two links both look the same to me, however it is clear by the price that one is clearly better than the other, why is that better and is the more expensive link worth the performance boost?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-XMS3-240-pin-PC3-12800-unbuffered/dp/B00336XHXA/ref=sr_1_29?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1294427983&sr=1-29]Corsair XMS3 - Memory - 4 GB : 2 x 2 GB - DIMM 240-pin - DDR3 - 1600 MHz / PC3-12800 - CL7 - 1.65 V - unbuffered - non-ECC: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[/URL]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMX4GX3M2A1600C9-DDR3-SDRAM-Memory/dp/B002LE8D2A/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1294427898&sr=1-5]Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 2 x 2GB DDR3 SDRAM Memory: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[/URL]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/G-Skill-1600MHz-PC12800-DDR3-Ripjaws/dp/B002O17L82/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1294427811&sr=1-5]G-Skill 4GB 1600MHz PC12800 DDR3 Ripjaws CAS 8 Kit (2x 2GB): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[/URL]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Dominator-240-pin-PC3-12800-unbuffered/dp/B003IITB1K/ref=sr_1_45?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1294427983&sr=1-45]Corsair Dominator - Memory - 4 GB : 2 x 2 GB - DIMM 240-pin - DDR3 - 1600 MHz / PC3-12800 - CL8 - 1.5 V - unbuffered - non-ECC: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[/URL]
 

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With AMD processors the stock ram speed is 1333 MHz and the timings 9-9-9-24-32.

So in essence when using 1600 MHz ram you are overclocking a little bit, so in other words the only processors that see 1600MHz on first boot as far as I'm aware are intel's.
So you will have to set the speed and timings in bios on first boot to get the rated speed.

Now to answer the question at hand, these are the best in speed and timings:

Corsair XMS3 - Memory - 4 GB : 2 x 2 GB - DIMM 240-pin - DDR3 - 1600 MHz / PC3-12800 - CL7 - 1.65 V - unbuffered - non-ECC.
 

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I have a 1090T, specs below, and I can't seem to get this to run stable on any OC setting. I am new to this as well, so I have some understanding but not alot. Any help would be great.
 
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