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Firstly I know there is a crap load of these threads and you are probably sick of answering these types of questions.

So i'm looking to buy my first DSLR, I am moving up from a really basic digital camera (olympus fe-130) and I am sick of its complete lack of manual settings and fairly poor picture quality.

I've been looking at the sony A200K (kit version with 18-70mm lense). Is this a good camera to get? Bear in mind I am on quite a strict budget (£350) but I don't want a total beginners camera that lacks features in favour of simple menus. I want a camera that has lots of settings, features etc. that I will just learn over time.

The reviews I have read are very positive and it scores highly, is there anything better for around the same price?
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I'm in the same boat, and I've decided on the Canon Rebel Xs. You can also look at the Nikon D3000. It should be in your price range.
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just keep in mind that sony's have a tendency to have more saturation in their LCDs than what they picture really looks like. nothing wrong image taking wise just don't depend always on the LCD on any brand.
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Any DSLR will have full range of manual controls, even entry-level bodies. And even the worst performing DSLRs are worlds better performance wise than point and shoot cameras. The A200 is a decent camera, though I would go with a Canon or Nikon body personally, can't beat their quality.
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As Gone said, Canon and Nikon are certainly more common/popular than Sony. That being said, I know that review sites have had favorable opinions of the recent batch of Sony bodies, so it would probably be a fine purchase.
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Ok, thanks for the input, i'll probably go with the sony then. Maybe if I get really into photography a few years from now I can buy a more advanced model.

I think I will order it tomorrow, i'll post some pictures I take with in the forums.
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Ok, thanks for the input, i'll probably go with the sony then. Maybe if I get really into photography a few years from now I can buy a more advanced model.

I think I will order it tomorrow, i'll post some pictures I take with in the forums.

Just be aware that Sony's Lens Line up Is not as big as others.

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Wow there certainly is a difference, i'll have to look into this to make sure theres nothing major i'd be missing out on lens wise if I get a sony. Thanks for alerting me to that.
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Just be aware that Sony's Lens Line up Is not as big as others.

Not completely true, Sony can use any lens from the Minolta A-mount, which is quite extensive. Most AF on Sony DSLRs and are very high quality, including a lot of Zeiss glass. Check out Dyxum and you'll see that they have hundreds of lenses in their database. In fact, Sony and Nikon have way more available lenses for their mounts than Canon could dream of.
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Disaster has struck me... I was emailed from the site I ordered from saying the camera is discontinued... I really wanted this model. I can't find it from any other reputable site for a reasonable price. I didn't really want to pay anything over £300 for this model. Do I have any alternatives in the same price range other than the Nikon D3000 and the Canon Rebel XS? If not I will have to find the best of the two and search for the best price.
Ouch, that sucks. If you want to stick with Sony, the 230 and 330 might fall into your price range. Additionally, Olympus might have some models that fall around there. However, it might be worthwhile going for a Nikon or Canon at this point.
I've handled the A230 and it really isn't for me, the shaping of the body just seems wrong to me. The other Sony models are out of my price range so will have to have a look which canon or nikon is right for me.

Does anyone have any first hand experience with the Canon EOS 1000D or the Nikon D3000, if so what are their good points? Any bad points?
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I've handled the A230 and it really isn't for me, the shaping of the body just seems wrong to me. The other Sony models are out of my price range so will have to have a look which canon or nikon is right for me.

Does anyone have any first hand experience with the Canon EOS 1000D or the Nikon D3000, if so what are their good points? Any bad points?

The D3000 is a notch above the 1000D in terms of features. Both have roughly the same size sensor and resolution, but the Nikon, having less pixel density, will be slightly less noisy at high ISO. Both perform similarly in burst mode. The D3000 has a larger LCD and will spot meter. The one big advantage of the Canon is that it will autofocus with any AF Canon lens, whereas the D3000 will only autofocus with AF-S Nikon lenses or comparable third party (all others will manual focus only).
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I've read a few reviews comparing these entry level camera's and they seem to be very similar, there are just a few things that have made my decision for me. The live view is quite an important feature as I have been a long time user of the point and shoot style camera this will help bridge the gap.

Also from what I have seen of the Nikon's "noob friendly" user interface, I don't like it. It seems like something that would help for a while at first but would quickly get annoying as I begin to understand the functions and want to advance. Another big thing for me which I didn't know until you told me is the AF.

Being on quite a strict budget I will have to buy 3rd party lenses, and I really don't fancy the idea of focusing every shot myself.

So, I think i'll buy the canon, I've found a good deal which is £50 cheaper than the cheapest D3000 I could find. Thanks everyone, you've all been amazing help especially GoneTomorrow and laboitnoire. +rep to all.

When the camera does arrive I'll post some pictures I take with it here.
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Actually, the lack of auto-focus is becoming less of an issue these days, as two of the best entry-level lenses for Nikon have the AF-S motor, and they're not that expensive (the 18-55 VR is the kit lens). Nikon's kit lens also focuses substantially faster than Canon's!

As far as an interface, you can make almost any camera as friendly or manual as you want it to be.

However, for your first SLR it is really hard to go wrong these days, and I'm sure you'll be quite happy with the Canon.
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Actually, the lack of auto-focus is becoming less of an issue these days, as two of the best entry-level lenses for Nikon have the AF-S motor, and they're not that expensive (the 18-55 VR is the kit lens). Nikon's kit lens also focuses substantially faster than Canon's!

As far as an interface, you can make almost any camera as friendly or manual as you want it to be.

However, for your first SLR it is really hard to go wrong these days, and I'm sure you'll be quite happy with the Canon.
I think the AF speed is more based on the body. My D300, D1H and F100 all focus faster than my D60 with the same glass.
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You have a point there. However, in my experience with my dad's D50 and his 18-55 VR, it focuses really damn fast. My friend's Canon (I think he had an XS) seemed to take much longer with his kit lens.
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You have a point there. However, in my experience with my dad's D50 and his 18-55 VR, it focuses really damn fast. My friend's Canon (I think he had an XS) seemed to take much longer with his kit lens.
Focusing speed depends on both the body and the lens. In the example you gave it's probably the body achieving focus faster.

For example, my 50D tromps my XSi in AF.

What factors into AF speed in an electrical system.
- Bodies AF system (type of AF points, how many, how sensitive the points are, etc...)
- What type of motor the lens has
- The construction of the lens (more glass means more weight thus slower focus in some lenses. A perfect example of this would be the Canon 85mm f/1.2L)
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