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Ok, I want to build a new computer and want to try watercoolling. Ive never done watercooling, so forgive me if some of the questions are dumb to u.<br />
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My first question. I plan to water cool an AMD dual core (unsure which one) and two 7900 GTs in an SLI setup. What loop should I have for this setup? As in, what order should the water flow to to give me maximum cooling? This rig will be a gaming rig and I don't plan to do any overclocking if that makes a difference in how it should flow.<br />
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Since we know what I want to cool, what cooling kit whould I get. I would really perfer a case with watercooling built in already, mainly to simplify the process of add the radiator. I know for this setup I will probably need a big radiator.<br />
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I know that all cases are NOT meant for watercooling, but what case you would recommend/use currenty for watercooling?<br />
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Last question. What coolant should I use for the setup?<br />
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Thanks in advance<br />
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Also, I would like to know what tubing is best to use. I know that bigger does a better job at moving heat. What tubing stands out above the rest?<br />
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It should run: res-pump-rad-cpu-gpu-gpu <br />
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If you want a kit these are good. You will need to buy 2 gpu blocks for it... <a href="http://www.svc.com/h20-220-apex-ul.html" target="_blank">Swiftech Apex Ultra Dual 120mm Water Cooling Kit</a><br />
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Gpu blocks............................................ ......<a href="http://www.svc.com/mcw60-b.html" target="_blank">Swiftech MCW60 Extreme Duty VGA Bare Water Block (3/8" and 1/2" barbs)</a><br />
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This is the fluid I use.................<br />
<a href="http://www.svc.com/fxpextmb32.html" target="_blank">Fluid XP EXT Extreme Non-Conductive Coolant - UV Midnight Blue 32oz.</a><br />
And it really is better to just build a WC rig..If you want to let us know how much you want to spend we will help you piece on togather....<b>EDIT:</b> I like the 7/16 x 5/8 Masterkleer..You use it with 1/2 fittings, it's easier to work with and still has about as much flow as 1/2" tubing..
 

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Thanks. The cost is not an issue...so let's get started. Also, ima need a real "noobie" lesson on fittings and clamps...cuz they are all different...thanks<br />
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I also noticed u had perp drives, how are those working out for u...i want 2 of those for RAID 0.<br />
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For a kit, i agrre on the APex from swiftech. Or for custom, buy all the same parts as the Apex, except change the radiator to a <a href="http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=256&cat=90&page=1" target="_blank">Black ice GTX</a> other than that every thing will be great.<br />
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Also a sweet resivoir is the <a href="http://http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=318&products_id=20585" target="_blank">Cyclone 120</a><br />
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Go with 1/2" fitting, higher flow, less restiction in the loop. For clamps you can use a number of things... Zip ties, steel screw down clamps which can be found at home depot for pocket change...
 

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You only need to buy the right kind of tubing...then either use clamps of some sort or zip ties <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> that should hold the tubing on pretty tightly...And by Cost is not an issue, you mean you want to spend ~200, 300, 400 dollars....less than 800? You're not ocing, so temps won't matter all that much for you, but i'im just curious <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
 

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OK Buddy let's get you one pieced togather... <br />
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Pump........<a href="http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=175&cat=23&page=1" target="_blank">Danger Den :: Pumps :: DC Powered :: 12V DD-D5 Pump</a><br />
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CPU block...fstfrddy here on our forum makes a killer one I will link you to it and to a Swiftech one also...<a href="http://www.stingerwaterblocks.mysite.com/" target="_blank">Stinger Waterblocks</a><br />
...... <a href="http://www.svc.com/h20-220-apex-ul.html" target="_blank">Swiftech Apex Ultra Dual 120mm Water Cooling Kit</a><br />
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GPU blocks.............<a href="http://www.svc.com/mcw60-b.html" target="_blank">Swiftech MCW60 Extreme Duty VGA Bare Water Block (3/8" and 1/2" barbs)</a><br />
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RES.......<a href="http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=52&cat=27&page=1" target="_blank">Danger Den :: Reservoirs :: Bay Style Reservoirs :: Danger Den Single 5 1/4" Bay Reservoir</a><br />
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Rad this is the best one going right now.................<a href="http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=256&cat=90&page=1" target="_blank">Danger Den :: Radiators :: Black Ice Series :: GTX Xtreme Series :: Black Ice GTX240</a>.<br />
This one is good and cheaper.............................. <br />
<a href="http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=221&cat=86&page=1" target="_blank">Danger Den :: Radiators :: Black Ice Series :: GTS Stealth Radiator :: Stealth GTS 240 Black Ice</a><br />
Rad box to hang your rad off the back of your case.......<a href="http://www.svc.com/mcb120k-blk-28.html" target="_blank">Swiftech MCB-120 Black 120mm Radbox Kit</a>.... <br />
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Tubing I like this it flows about as much as 1/2 inch tubing but is easier to work with..You use it with 1/2 inch fitting......................<a href="http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=238&cat=33&page=1" target="_blank">Danger Den :: Tubing :: Tubing and Clamps :: 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) Masterkleer General Purpose Clear PVC Tubing</a>
 
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You have gotten some great advice, just let me add my 2 cents. If you do not move your computer around, consider an external system, I prefer that. I can spin the nuts off my waterblock and be completely free of the cooling system to work on on it in a few minutes and it keeps everything easily accessible. Either way, Dive in!
 

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Thanks for all the help guys. Yes, the price isn't really a big deal...I dont think it will be. I have another foundation that could possible pay for everything i could want/need for this computer. I love computers, especially fast ones, so I wanna go all out on this one and try things I haven't done before.<br><br>
I love the Stinger waterblocks. That looks sweet man. I will probably order most of my things from newegg.com and xoxide.com. I really love both those websites. I think everything you guys mentioned is on either of those sites.<br><br>
I will take all of ur comments into consideration. If and when I get this computer built (probably more into Dec. around Christmas time) I will def put pics and info regarding how I did it.<br><br>
Another question though. I read a few post of people mixing other things into their coolent. What should I mix, if its even necessary?<br><br>
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You will love the Stinger V-6, picture's do it no justice..I will link you to a couple of other good places to buy WC gear at to...I like to use Fluid XP, everything is already mixed and it's non-conductive as well, it also comes in other colors......<br><a href="http://www.svc.com/fxpextmb32.html" target="_blank">Fluid XP EXT Extreme Non-Conductive Coolant - UV Midnight Blue 32oz.</a><br>
Good Place.........................................<br><a href="http://www.dangerden.com/news.php" target="_blank">Danger Den Community Website: News</a><br>
Good Place........................................ <a href="http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php" target="_blank">Performance-PCs.com, ... sleeve it and they will come</a><br><br>
Good Place........................................<a href="http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmchire.html" target="_blank">Petra's Tech Shop</a><br><br>
Good Place..........................................<a href="http://www.svc.com/" target="_blank">SVC.com - Computer Hardware & Cooling</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">You will love the Stinger V-6, picture's do it no justice..I will link you to a couple of other good places to buy WC gear at to...I like to use Fluid XP, everything is already mixed and it's non-conductive as well, it also comes in other colors......<br><a href="http://www.svc.com/fxpextmb32.html" target="_blank">Fluid XP EXT Extreme Non-Conductive Coolant - UV Midnight Blue 32oz.</a><br>
Good Place.........................................<br><a href="http://www.dangerden.com/news.php" target="_blank">Danger Den Community Website: News</a><br>
Good Place........................................ <a href="http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php" target="_blank">Performance-PCs.com, ... sleeve it and they will come</a><br><br>
Good Place........................................<a href="http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmchire.html" target="_blank">Petra's Tech Shop</a><br><br>
Good Place..........................................<a href="http://www.svc.com/" target="_blank">SVC.com - Computer Hardware & Cooling</a></div>
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Danger Den's MCT-5 is also a great pre mixed non conductive coolant. If you don't want to spend that kind of money on your coolant, get some Zerex and Distilled water. People say mix it 5-10% Zerex to 95-90% Distilled water.
 

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hi you guys!<br />
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Thanks guys. I think i will only have one GPU now. I think I will get the new 880GTX. Do you think the fan on that will be loud? I kinda think it will, but don't want to do "surgery" on such an expensive card to watercool it....what do u think?<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">Thanks guys. I think i will only have one GPU now. I think I will get the new 880GTX. Do you think the fan on that will be loud? I kinda think it will, but don't want to do "surgery" on such an expensive card to watercool it....what do u think?<br />
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</div> I dont WC my GPU, I dont find the fans on video cards to be loud, but I have a lot of big case fans so I couldn't hear them any way..
 

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GPU cooling is just as safe as CPU cooling.
 

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I think I will go with WC on the GPU. I found one that you can buy with the waterblock on it already. Its like $900 for it though and its a UK site... Anyone know of a US site that sells it with the waterblock already installed on it?<br><br>
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I would just stick something like this on it since you want to cool your gpu to....I've never used one but you only have a couple of spring holders for the fan on one, they cant be to hard to install............<a href="http://www.svc.com/mcw60-b.html" target="_blank">Swiftech MCW60 Extreme Duty VGA Bare Water Block (3/8" and 1/2" barbs)</a>
 

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They are just about as tough as a CPU install...basically not at all.
 
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