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Would You Lose FPS In A Game Via Wine?

  • No, it matches or even greater FPS than windows. Windows is $h1t

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FPS Loss Game Via Wine?

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wondering if you would lose fps in wine compared to playing a game in windows.

Gaming is the only thing that's holding me back from switching to linux.
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IF you could get the game working you would probably lose a ton of fps. IF is quite a big if as well lol. I'd say minimum of 50% loss but probably a lot more. It depends on the game I would think though.
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wondering if you would lose fps in wine compared to playing a game in windows.

Gaming is the only thing that's holding me back from switching to linux.

The ATI Linux drivers are pretty bad, so yes, your FPS will drop alot because everything will be running in software mode.
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The ATI Linux drivers are pretty bad, so yes, your FPS will drop alot because everything will be running in software mode.
wut bout nvidia?
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Linux gamers are not noobs. There are a lot of open gl games that rune nativly perfectly.

DirectX was not licensed for use in linux, so emulating (but not emulating, because it's WINE, which is not an emulator) loses a good deal of FPS.
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wut bout nvidia?
Its better but, most games will still not run.
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Linux gamers are not noobs. There are a lot of open gl games that rune nativly perfectly.

DirectX was not licensed for use in linux, so emulating (but not emulating, because it's WINE, which is not an emulator) loses a good deal of FPS.
why didn't people hack the source code for dx and put it on linux? it would be a way better solution.
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You will lose some FPS, but it also depends on the game. Older games run great and the FPS drop is not noticeable. Newer games, however, can take a bigger performance hit, especially if your system was not good at playing them to begin with.

With your system, you probably want to stick with Windows.
I tried running Left4Dead in wine and it worked fine but FPS dropped about half. If you have windows then just use that.
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why didn't people hack the source code for dx and put it on linux? it would be a way better solution.
It's not that easy... WINE took more then 16 years to develop and it is no where near completion.
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Some games lose no performance at all or even perform better but if you're serious about gaming (as in you want to play the latest games with on hassle) you'll want to keep that windows installation.

Wine is a compatibility layer that contains 100% non-MS code. That fact that it runs so many windows only applications flawlessly is a major achievement.

Before someone barges into this thread and starts ranting about how xyz sucks, know that there's a difference between a gamer's solution and a solution for running games. The former always works, the latter is selective on whether it works or not on various cases.
just get another hd and run linux on it.
Wine is emulation, so yes you will be losing FPS. Your computer barely up to the task of running games natively in Windows, most games would be unplayable for you in Wine.
I have personally tried running games in WINE on my PC, winch is really fast, and FPS was unacepptably low, trust me use windows for gaming and also with your Pentium 4 HT, 1 GB of ram and ATi Radeon HD 3650, XP would be alot better choice for games, you will gain at least 10-20 FPS because you will have more ram avaible to your games and not ate up by windows.

Not to long back, I tried running Vista using my 4 GHz Pentium 4 with 2 GB of ram and a GeForce 8500 GT and got alot lower frame rate then I did in XP.

I am not a vista hater but unless you have a dual core and 2 GB of ram + then Vista is a bad OS for gaming. Use Windows XP for anything with 1.5 GB or lower Ram.
Yes, you will take a huge hit in any game that doesn't support OpenGL. You must remember that Linux does not support Direct3D, hence the need for Wine to emulate it. Results vary, but you take a huge hit for games that don't run OpenGL.
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Wine is emulation, so yes you will be losing FPS. Your computer barely up to the task of running games natively in Windows, most games would be unplayable for you in Wine.

WINE is not emulation. It's more a translator of sorts... in the case of DirectX, it translates the DX API requests the game makes to OpenGL API requests.

As is with most things that are done automatically, it's far from optimal.
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why didn't people hack the source code for dx and put it on linux? it would be a way better solution.

Because most Unix users use Linux because it's free.
Because it runs open-source software, and you're not bound to and license agreement.

I think that even if the most reputable user in the Linux community would turn to DX and hack the source, he would be abandonned from the community.

The way I see it, Linux users, are the modern "flower-power" dudes.
And there is nothing wrong with that, I myself run Linux on a seperate box, but I just can't live without Windows --- I just don't depend on it anymore.
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i don't think it is fair to say that linux games are for noobs, but as it stands Wine loses you a lot of FPS, and getting it to work with each game i want to play is a pain tbh, ie L4D, fallout 3, GTA IV

i tried playing TF2 and even at lowest settings it was too unplayable for my taste. just dual boot - use windows for games and linux for everything else. alternatively you could virtualise.

oh, and wine is not an emulator. the name wine is actually an acronym for wine is not an emulator. Coma had it correctly.
Let it be known that I don't hate linux...hell I'd be using it if there was a DX9/DX10 capable distro out.

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i don't think it is fairto say that linux games are for noobs, but as it stands Wine loses you a lot of FPS, and getting it to work with each game i want to play is a pain tbh

i tried playing TF2 and even at lowest settings it was too unplayable for my taste. just dual boot - use windows for games and linux for everything else. alternatively yoou could virtualise.


I never did see the point in booting the more bloated OS to run the more intensive apps, and booting the much more streamlined(And dare I say faster?) OS to browse the internet. Maybe someone can enlighten me as to why so many people tend to make absolutely no sense here.
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because, Linux doesn't do games. it does most other things well but games are not one thing. so you either have to tinker and pray with wine or use windows and have a better experience.

for web browsing, movie watching, basic office work, and so on, i say Linux is definitely better and as easy as windows, though

i'm sure the day linux does games well many on here will switch.
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