[FUD]DirectX 10 support coming to Mac OS and Linux

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Juggalo23451

Discussion Starter · Mar 11, 2009

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For the past two years, DirectX 10 has received a prominent position in Windows Vista as an exclusive selling point, and while it has eluded "other" more well-established Windows XP, the technology is now starting to make its way to Linux and Mac OS X.

Jeremy White, the co-founder and CEO of CodeWeavers, revealed some company roadmap details in a recent blog post in which he stated that that DirectX 10 support would come into focus as the company's CrossOver project moved into 2009. "We've just shipped a lot of those 'under the hood' improvements for games out in CrossOver Games 7.2. [and ] we're really pushing DirectX 9 support pretty far along, and getting ready to move on DirectX 10," White stated.

Many analysts and individuals will usually agree that Microsoft delivered DirectX 10 as an integral part of Vista, giving it exclusivity rights and refusing to add support to XP regardless of its more prevalent popularity. Yet, the irony begins with Microsoft's plans to subsequently release DirectX 11 not only for Windows 7 later this year, but also for Vista.

On the other hand, CodeWeavers modestly admits that its goal "is to make Unix (including Linux and Mac OS X) a fully Windows-compatible operating system. All Windows applications should be able to be run on Unix: cleanly, harmoniously, within the native environment, and without using an emulator." White went on to say, "The key idea is to make it easier to distill the gathered wisdom on unsupported applications and make it far easier to use. I hope we'll have that available before the end of the year."

As of now, the CrossOver Games 7.2.0 trial installer is available for download and can be found here

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mothergoose729

· #2 · Mar 11, 2009

I have my doubts about this... I really would like to see this work. But I would be lieing if I said this was the first time I had ever heard this before. If Direct X compatability and software was available for linux and without the threat of being imminently pulled becuase of sueing by microsoft I would delete windows without a second though from my machine. Only keep it around now because it is easier to fold on and for the games and applications I really can't find a suitable replacement for in linux.

The supported games doesn't look impressive to me... a lot of those work though wine. Still, its a start.

cal003

· #3 · Mar 11, 2009

yea just dont see it working out... and if it is added to those OSes, how will it effect the stabiliy... since that is what unix is good for

GivingHope

· #4 · Mar 11, 2009

It looks like BS.

Sabzi

· #5 · Mar 11, 2009

ya right lol
MS would lose massive market share

DJZeratul

· #6 · Mar 11, 2009

CrossOver is basically just Wine for mac/unix inside a wrapper...

it wouldnt affect the stability of the OS because the game is being run under emulated windows inside its own WINE wrapper. DX10 wouldnt touch the OS whatsoever.

johonm333

· #7 · Mar 11, 2009

Just make the switch to OpenGL already....

SZayat

· #8 · Mar 11, 2009

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CrossOver is basically just Wine for mac/unix inside a wrapper...

it wouldnt affect the stability of the OS because the game is being run under emulated windows inside its own WINE wrapper. DX10 wouldnt touch the OS whatsoever.

but it will affect the fps I suppose

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metala

· #9 · Mar 11, 2009

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but it will affect the fps I suppose

Yep, it will.
What WINE do is get DX9 shaders and things like that and transform them to GLSL (OpenGL Shading Language) and then execute them as OpenGL ones. If your card is weaker in OGL than in DX (which is mostly the case), your FPS will drop.
I played Call of Duty 4 on WINE with Mobility X700. It was horrible... some lines, some triangles in the air that show up and disappear.. Walls with crappy textures, walls that emerge and vanish... but it was playable none the less.

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Just make the switch to OpenGL already....

Why? OpenGL is the worse API.... at least for games.

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johonm333

· #10 · Mar 11, 2009

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Why? OpenGL is the worse API.... at least for games.

Well, the whole OpenGL v.s. DirectX argument was an ongoing discussion for a while. DirectX 10 wasn't showing many gains and the OpenGL 3.0 project was creating quite the stir. The only argument for DX i can remember is that M$ can pump money into the bloodstreams of programmers pretty damn quick, lol. (I'm too tired to put up a good argument, sorry!)

Sorry to noob all over the place, but what is 'API'?

EDIT: Google is my friend

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bomfunk

· #11 · Mar 11, 2009

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Sorry to noob all over the place, but what is 'API'?

Application Programming Interface. The name says it all, it's basically an interface between applications and rest of the system. Makes programming easier; i.e. without DX or any other 3D API every game would have to have their different graphic engines and if you want hardware acceleration, every game would have to include the code to make use of hardware. DX eliminates this need by acting as an interface between games and the hardware; the programmer doesn't have to worry about how the hardware works and/or supporting diferent types of hardware.

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RipperLord

· #12 · Mar 11, 2009

They'd do it for XP before anything else, but if so... +1 for Linux and -10 for Mac (cause they epicly fail).

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ubernewhacks

· #13 · Mar 11, 2009

Microsoft would lose market share but not horrendously. All the mainstream bought in store computers still would use Windows.

mothergoose729

· #14 · Mar 11, 2009

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Microsoft would lose market share but not horrendously. All the mainstream bought in store computers still would use Windows.

For how long?

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Ruei

· #15 · Mar 11, 2009

Codeweavers has historically done what they said they would, if not in the timeframe they'd hoped, so I do have some faith in the company.

That said, we really do need to move to an open standard. Anyone monopolizing an industry is generally bad.

FieryCoD

· #16 · Mar 11, 2009

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It looks like BS.

Your avatar definitely matches your statement.

But yeah, I was like "No way this is going to happen" in my perspective.

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-iceblade^

· #17 · Mar 11, 2009

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ya right lol
MS would lose massive market share

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DX9 is on linux. it's true.

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-iceblade^

· #18 · Mar 11, 2009

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They'd do it for XP before anything else, but if so... +1 for Linux and -10 for Mac (cause they epicly fail).

microsoft aren't the ones doing it.

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adventfred

· #19 · Mar 11, 2009

****
i love windows vista (only) no more mac (im kidding)

kneeki

· #20 · Mar 11, 2009

Does anyone know if the hardware cursor works in WoW through Crossover?

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