[FUD]RV790 has different pin layout

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No one is implying a completely new architecture, just a more major revision than a new stepping.

Manufacturing process, and even number of functional units (ROPs, TMUs, SPs), are probably identical. That doesn't mean there is not plenty of room for change.

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Indeed why would there be another major architecture change when the RV870 will be it. The RV790 appears to be a refined RV770 intended at squeezing as much performance and power out of the RV770 as possible.

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These forums are getting absolutely ridiculous. The GTX280 is significantly faster than the 4870 1GB. It's usually close to the performance of the GTX260, typically slightly below.

The 4890 or whatever it will be called may be as fast or possibly a tad faster than the 260-216, which is why nvidia is preparing the GTX275. The 4870 was never meant to compete with the GTX280, that would be the 4870X2.

This is confirmed multiple times by AMD's own marketing slides.

This is an absolutely ludicrous argument and I have been observing that the quality of information on OCN has been rapidly dropping off as of recently.

I cant wait to see how this stacks up

I'll have to get one.

Expect full d3v0 benchmarks comparing this card versus the GTX 200 class cards

With no panzy 3.2ghz processor speeds like half these review sites hehe

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Are you sure?

Theres going to be two different 4890 1gb version, vanilla and OC and for all we know Nvidia is scrambling the GTX275 just to compete with the vanilla version and 4890 OC is going to compete head on with GTX 285.

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First off, WE ALL KNOW THE 4870 WAS NOT MEANT TO COMPETE WITH THE 280!!
That's just common knowledge and plain common sense.
The 280 is GENERALLY 20-25% faster than a 4870, this has been proven time and time again with multiple reviews. Don't ask me to site them because I'm sure you are more than capable of finding them on your own.

The 4890 is stated to be up to 20% faster than a 4870, which if this holds true, it will put it right around the same performance level of a 280 and possibly a 285 IN SELECT GAMES.

The only quality that I've noticed to be dropping off are the quality of your posts. You seem like a smart guy and able to hold an intelligent conversation but the conceited and condescending tone in your posts have been becoming more and more apparent. You try to come off as the sole voice of sanity in these threads and its really not called for. If you think the "quality" of information given by other members of OCN is not up to your standard, then simply stay out of OCN.

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it's called fanboyism and he's really into it. he'll be biased no matter what

now you just wait for the new ati cards that will have much improved folding perfomance.

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Maby there are just ******eds

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Wow...does Fud like to post the same article over and over again. They stated this already last week when they retracted their earlier statement.

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For some. Unfortunately, there seems to be an increasing number of people who think that the 4870 is right on the toes of the GTX280 and that the RV790 is going to compete with and possibly take the single GPU crown from the 285.

And you must realize, most of the rumors about the RV790 have been coming from FUD and Inq. Oddly, you don't see much Fud or Inq bashing when they have pro-ATI/AMD articles. Funny, isn't it. Don't take this as fud/inq bashing though, I'm just pointing out an interesting tidbit of information.

Secondly, you can bet that the 20% figure is, as with the Phenom II, an up to figure, not across the board. The architecture remains the same, only the clock speed has been increased, so you can expect the performance highs and lows to be roughly the same.

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It's Fudzilla... Much like Inquirer and Kotaku, it's a typo when something is expressed properly.