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We've repeatedly heard that the architectural changes in Radeon 6000 generation are not great, but this doesn't mean that the chip won't get significantly faster.

This is AMD's plan. They killed the ATI brand as they want to move towards Fusion, CPU meats the GPU design, but as you can see Radeon sticks for discrete graphics of the future.
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LOL, fail.

Radeon HD 6000 is a minor improvement
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/gra...or-improvement
 

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It will probably be a nice increase, but people are kidding themselves if they think a die shrink and minor rework is going to magically increase tessellation performance three-fold like the fake "leaked" benchmarks would suggest.
 

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This guy is a total NVIDIA-fanboi and now that he's seen those leaked benchmarks, he obviously felt stupid alleging that it was a "minor" improvement when it wasn't so now wrote this article to cover his ass.

Can't wait for the ATI Radeon HD 6870
 

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LOL, fail.

Radeon HD 6000 is a minor improvement
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/gra...or-improvement

Why fail? Minor improvement and evolutionary (not revolutionary) mean the same thing. It would be a contradiction if it had said revolutionary. Seems like a comprehension problem.

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It will probably be a nice increase, but people are kidding themselves if they think a die shrink and minor rework is going to magically increase tessellation performance three-fold like the fake "leaked" benchmarks would suggest.

It isn't a die shrink. HD6000 remains on TSMC 40nm.
 

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This guy is a total NVIDIA-fanboi and now that he's seen those leaked benchmarks, he obviously felt stupid alleging that it was a "minor" improvement when it wasn't so now wrote this article to cover his ass.

Which is why this is not news, Fud rarely (even that's a damn stretch of the imagination) has any articles that are "news" worthy.
 

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i dont care if its AMD now, i'll still call it ATi

i want to see more benchies on these. lets see if i can replace my HD4890 with a HD6850!
if not i'll just buy a GTX470 and fold like a madman
 

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I will never understand fanboys
 

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This is AMD's plan. They killed the ATI brand as they want to move towards Fusion, CPU meats the GPU design, but as you can see Radeon sticks for discrete graphics of the future.

Mmm. Meat.

Did you even read he entire article?
 

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Mmm. Meat.

Did you even read he entire article?
I did not read "he" entire article


Nicely spotted though
 

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I did not read "he" entire article


Nicely spotted though

T button didnt press. Oh well.
 

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This guy is a total NVIDIA-fanboi and now that he's seen those leaked benchmarks, he obviously felt stupid alleging that it was a "minor" improvement when it wasn't so now wrote this article to cover his ass.

Can't wait for the ATI Radeon HD 6870


not a fanboi here lol i like ati, nivdia same time breh
 

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It will probably be a nice increase, but people are kidding themselves if they think a die shrink and minor rework is going to magically increase tessellation performance three-fold like the fake "leaked" benchmarks would suggest.
Who cares?
Nvidia's current offerings choke and stutter with tesselation now as well, and aren't really up to the task with all the other visuals cranked. (I don't think AMD is really worried about PhsyX or CUDA either, two more undesired technologies no one cares about.)

That quote in your sig is completely ridiculous.

ATi's DX11 results are as good if not better then Nvidia's.

and level what playing field?
ATi isn't the one getting thier butt's kicked in GPU sales... if anyone needs to level the playing field its them. Your sig quote doesn't make Nvidia look better, it makes you look like a biased idiot who thinks Nvidia is superior.

Everytime I read your sig I think to myself "there's that biased idiot who thinks his Nvidia stuff is the best." I got bad news for ya.


Niether company is superior.
 
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not a fanboi here lol i like ati, nivdia same time breh
I meant the guy who wrote the article.

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It will probably be a nice increase, but people are kidding themselves if they think a die shrink and minor rework is going to magically increase tessellation performance three-fold like the fake "leaked" benchmarks would suggest.
It's not a die shrink mate, still 40nm. I don't think those benchmarks are all too fake myself, they seem pretty legit, but each to his own and we'll wait and see. Loving the competition though, hopefully it will force NVIDIA to drop prices even more so i can pick up a second GTX 470 for <£200 along with a nice 6870. However in the case of tessellation, neither side has a product which can run it smoothly (eg Unigine), on a single card at least, so it doesn't matter all too much. If a 5850 gave me 10fps with tes + dof in M2033 and a 470 gave me 15, i would still buy the 5850 (if cheaper) because it's more efficient, and neither are playable. Just an example... don't take it literally.
 

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My mistake about the die shrink then.

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That quote in your sig is completely ridiculous.

ATi's DX11 results are as good if not better then Nvidia's.

Lol..
 

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Could be more contradictory no?


Could make more sense, no?

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Why fail? Minor improvement and evolutionary (not revolutionary) mean the same thing. It would be a contradiction if it had said revolutionary.
Exactly.
 

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Lol..


I dunno, kinda think ATI's doing fine in DX11. BC2 and DiRT 2 are running pretty smooth even with a CPU bottleneck.

I think your sig is aimed at benchmarks as nVidia has some advantages (PhysX + mediocre tessellation (as opposed to crap tessellation by ATI)), which ATI users think is unfair.
For actual games, though, the advantage is, IMO, negligible.

BTW, the effects of PhysX in Vantage is so unrealistic that I feel like crying when people claim it's OK that nVidia uses it to boost CPU scores.
 

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I think your sig is aimed at benchmarks as nVidia has some advantages (PhysX + mediocre tessellation (as opposed to crap tessellation by ATI)), which ATI users think is unfair.

I wouldn't say Nvidia tessellation is mediocre. The difference between Nvidia and ATI in current DX11 games with tessellation is tiny if even existent, that is because these games use a very insignificant amount of tessellation and don't max out the fixed function tessellator that the HD5000 cards are equipped with. But in tessellation heavy benchmarks, such as Stone Giant and Heaven, the GTX480 is roughly twice as fast as a 5870.
 
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