[noname]

Im building my first rig and i wanted to know weather i should try and save money but also get decent over clockable ram , or buy Corsair RAM which is more performant but at the same time more expensive ? I am getting a GIGABYTE GA-965P-S3 mobo and i plan on getting 1G at first , then upgrading after some overclocking ;-). But atthe moment im on a budget where i need to keep everything under 900 , i am currently at like 840 with the G.Skill ram.

Corsair - 155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145588
G.Skill - 114
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820231085

Any suggestions would help me greatly -

 

[MADMAX22]

gskill generally makes good ram i would stick with that, ive never had a problem with the gskill ram

one thing if you havnt allready posted your rig for everyone to paruse i would do that we may be able to save you more money/better performance

 

[noname]

True.

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

GIGABYTE GA-965P-S3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel

XFX PVT71PUQF3 GeForce 7900GS 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor Model

G.SKILL 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) System Memory

Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

 

[Wincet]

That G.Skill isn't D9 and I'm pretty sure that Corsair isn't either. This one is D9GMH go for it.
$149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231063

 

[MADMAX22]

well your on the right track, i assume you allready have a power supply, if your using one that comes in a case i wouldnt do that

if you wanna save a couple bucks get the e6300, itll oc about the same, if you want just depends on whether you wanna 8 multi or a 7 multi
other then that looking good

 

[The Fury]

Try and get the Asus p5b deluxe. Will be better for overclocking
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131045

 

[MADMAX22]

yeah if you can afford it definatly get the ram wincet posted, i forgot they had it in stock

 

[MADMAX22]

Quote:

Try and get the Asus p5b deluxe. Will be better for overclocking http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131045

not necessarily, it may be but not allways, and if hes on a budget that hes trying to meet then the s3 or even the biostar p965 are good alternatives

 

[noname]

thanks for the suggestions

Im getting the PSU at TigerDirect
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...350&CatId=1079

I have a few questions though.
What is D9 and why is it so important?

If i were to get an E6300 , would this mean that i would need to get a good heatsink to cool it when overclocking it? Because right now i dont have the money for a Zalman or a Tuniq tower.

And what is the difference between an 8 multi and a 7 multi?

 

[dannyyboii]

D9, in simple terms, is the chip(s) that you want for OC. They are from Micron and are the best chips for RAM out here.

Cooling wouldn't make a difference for the E6300 or E6400. You can use the Intel cooler or an aftermarket one. The difference between the multi is self-explanatory.
They all have a default FSB of 266.
So for the E6300, 266 x 7 = 1.86 GHz
For the E6400, 266 x 8 = 2.13 GHz

If you get the E6300 you can overclock it to speeds like the E6400 and even higher.

 

[noname]

well , if im am comprehending right , this means that the E6400 would be a waste of money?

but i mean , can't i overclock higher with an E6400 since its x8 ? 400x8=3200
400x7=2800

i dont quite understand

 

[dannyyboii]

In my opinion, I won't say it's a waste of money. But you can save money by getting the E6300 then overclock it to achieve the same speeds.

 

[noname]

what do you mean the same speeds? im getting confused lol. The same maximum speeds as the E6400?

EDIT : I made a thread for this

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...ml#post1585321

 

[dannyyboii]

Well, you won't be able to even touch the maximum speeds of either unless you have uber phase or something.

What I am saying is...basically OC the E6300, and you will be better off than getting the E6400. You can hit the same speeds on air if you know what you're doing.

 

[MADMAX22]

well considering on air if you get the right mobo you can hit >500 fsb, this will get you into >3ghz e6300, now you can get the same overclock from a e6400 just with a lower fsb, its not that its a waste of money im just saying you could prob get the same oc just for less money, its up to you though, still you could prob get a 3.4 3.6 on your e6300 on air if you do it right which is prob the same you will get from a e6400, just looking to save ya a ffew bucks that you could put elsew where

 

[dannyyboii]

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 @ $49.99
GIGABYTE GA-965P-S3 @ $118.99
XFX PVT71PUQF3 GeForce 7900GS 256MB @ $184.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 @ $184.00
G.SKILL 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) @ $149.99
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB @ $52.99

Total: 740.95 w/o S&H and Before MIR

I recommend you get this PSU, OCZ GameXStream 600W for $129.99 ($111.99 after $18 MIR), instead of the Ultra because Ultra's PSU aren't that reliable.

 

[noname]

wow thanks dannyboii

but tell me , what is the diff between

this
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814150202
and
this
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814150208

 

[Wincet]

The slightly more expensive one after rebate is factory overclocked.

 

[dannyyboii]

The first one has "EXTREME" in the name so it's probably like the EXTREME version or something [probably factory overclocked]. Ultimately they are the same. But if you look at the specs carefully. The first one have higher clocks.
the first one is ...525/1550
Second one is 450/1320.

In simple terms, get the first one

 

[noname]

oh thanks again dannyboii
haha