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Recently built my new system. Sometimes, not always, when I play games (BF2 and SWBF 2) the game freezes withen 10 minutes of playing and i have to power down, as its completly locked up. It's just so random, but it needs to be fixed as I play BF2 competitively and its locked up on me a few times during matches.

Things I have tried:
-Used Driver Cleaner Pro to uninstall video, sound, and motherboard drivers, reinstalled all with fresh downloaded ones.
-Used Memtest86 and found one of my ram modules had about 6 errors on it thru one pass. Removed and tried playing games with just one. Still froze up, only it took about 20 minutes.
-Ran Clamwin, spybot search and destroy, adaware, CCleaner, RegCleaner, and have defraged

Now before I take my 520 watt aspire power supply out of my other system and try it on my new one, is there anything else I can do? As i want to try to avoid taking out the other power supply. The enermax says its SLI certifyed so it should be more the cabable of handling the load of my current setup?

PS. On a side note, when I took the bad ram module out and booted the OS, its now asking me to reactivate windows because there was a "considerable change to the hardware" or something to that nature, and when I go to reactiveate its telling me that i've used all my uses up, when this system is the only one i've used the key on, and its a legal copy I bought thru my school.
 

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Recently built my new system. Sometimes, not always, when I play games (BF2 and SWBF 2) the game freezes withen 10 minutes of playing and i have to power down, as its completly locked up. It's just so random, but it needs to be fixed as I play BF2 competitively and its locked up on me a few times during matches.

Things I have tried:
-Used Driver Cleaner Pro to uninstall video, sound, and motherboard drivers, reinstalled all with fresh downloaded ones.
-Used Memtest86 and found one of my ram modules had about 6 errors on it thru one pass. Removed and tried playing games with just one. Still froze up, only it took about 20 minutes.
-Ran Clamwin, spybot search and destroy, adaware, CCleaner, RegCleaner, and have defraged

Now before I take my 520 watt aspire power supply out of my other system and try it on my new one, is there anything else I can do? As i want to try to avoid taking out the other power supply. The enermax says its SLI certifyed so it should be more the cabable of handling the load of my current setup?

PS. On a side note, when I took the bad ram module out and booted the OS, its now asking me to reactivate windows because there was a "considerable change to the hardware" or something to that nature, and when I go to reactiveate its telling me that i've used all my uses up, when this system is the only one i've used the key on, and its a legal copy I bought thru my school.


Check your rail voltages and see if they're stable. They shouldn't vary too much.

[Edit] I didn't see that you were using a 400w on your current system. I doubt that can support a Dual Core CPU, SLI or not. Try your Aspire, it should help.

Also, call Windows and tell them what happened, and they should fix it right up for you.
 

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Check your rail voltages and see if they're stable. They shouldn't vary too much.

[Edit] I didn't see that you were using a 400w on your current system. I doubt that can support a Dual Core CPU, SLI or not. Try your Aspire, it should help.

Also, call Windows and tell them what happened, and they should fix it right up for you.

Rails according to PC probe are:
Vcore: 1.36
+3.3: 3.34 to 3.36 in the 2 minutes i was watching them.
+5.0: 5.05
+12.0: 11.97
Is there a program that takes averages of the voltages? I know Motherboard Moniter did, but it doesn't support my MB.

I tried doing the "activate by phone" option and called those #'s, but they were both disconnected. I tried looking on microsofts website for about an hour and all I could find was the Help Line they have for like 35$ per request.

This is the powersupply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817194002
 

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Is there a program that takes averages of the voltages?

Speedfan has a "mean" feature, which is the average. It gives you the average for voltages, temps, and fan speeds..
As far as your game lockups, I would increase the vcore very slightly.
I have noticed on my system that I will have the vcore stable enough for prime95, but games it locks up.
The problem was when running prime, the case isn't heated up by the video card. But running games, the video card heated my case up an extra couple degrees, which in turn made my CPU hotter than what prime did.
Hopefully this will help you out, it does make sense..
 

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As far as your game lockups, I would increase the vcore very slightly.
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Vcore default is 1.36, what would you recommend raising it to? My options are as follows:
1.3625
1.375
1.3875
1.400
1.4145
and so on...
also, in raising the vcore, do i need to change any other settings? I'm a noob when it comes to overclocking, haven't researched much into it yet.

Also, i had to google prime95 as I have never heard of it. Its some kind of "torture" test for your system?
 

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yea, prime95 is a Stability program that tortures your system, generates alot of heat. But I have come to figure out that when your case temp raises from your graphics card, it really heats up the CPU at the same time..
So it sounds your CPU isn't overclocked at all? Then I wouldn't touch the voltages, there's no reason it shouldn't be working at all. But if you want to try, increase it to the 1.3625 or even 1.4 to see if the problem get's fixed.
I thought that your system was overclocked. Give those voltages a try, and if it still locks up, it's something else.
 

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Vcore default is 1.36, what would you recommend raising it to? My options are as follows:
1.3625
1.375
1.3875
1.400
1.4145
and so on...
also, in raising the vcore, do i need to change any other settings? I'm a noob when it comes to overclocking, haven't researched much into it yet.

Also, i had to google prime95 as I have never heard of it. Its some kind of "torture" test for your system?

Yes, Prime95 is a mathematical model used for finding Ersienne's Prime, but is also a great cpu stresser. I wouldn't mess with your voltages for stock speeds. Your cpu is guaranteed by the manufacturer to run default voltage. If it won't, I'd send it back and get a better chip. With that said, I don't think it's possible to say that your cpu is even to blame yet. It doesn't take long to swap psus out, that's what I'd do first. The most common 2 causes of random lockups and crashes are overheating and psu. I'd say the 3rd most common cause is incorrect ram settings.
 

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No overclock. Idle CPU 26C Case 28C Load CPU 31-33C Case 30C

What about video card?
 

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which temp is which...and why is there 2 that are 126C ???
nothing is currently overclocked

What did you do to load the gpu core? What I'm asking is when was this taken and how long after whatever you were running?
 

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It was taken about 10 minutes after i restarted, running nothing but that program and backround applications (clamwin, FRAPS)

as for the GPU core, i don't under stand? Is it reading tempurtures from the video card?

Also, here is a SS of the program after about 10 minutes of my playing BF2, i downsized and snagged a picture. Is the vcore voltage drop of any significance?
 

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Those are just some incorrect readings....I would download rivatuner and run the monitoring program in the background while you are playing games. That way you can see how hot your GPU is getting..
This doesn't seem to be a CPU problem....Possibly the bios? Do you have the power connector plugged into the 7800GT ?
 

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It was taken about 10 minutes after i restarted, running nothing but that program and backround applications (clamwin, FRAPS)

as for the GPU core, i don't under stand? Is it reading tempurtures from the video card?

Also, here is a SS of the program after about 10 minutes of my playing BF2, i downsized and snagged a picture. Is the vcore voltage drop of any significance?


The Vcore voltage is varying a lot? If so, it's starting to point towards your psu being the cause of your problems. To save time, I'd simply swap out the Aspire for your current psu and rerun the same tests. If your current psu can't handle your comp at load, it'll never be reliable and eventually will ruin your install of windows.
 

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I simply think that power supply is too low....I think nvidia recommends 600W for their 7800 cards

but afterall...what do i know???
I am a noob
 

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Well from looking at the link to the power supply thats what your problem is, 20A on the 12v is NOT sufficient enough to power your system, i suggest getting an antec truepower II 550W or an equivalent.
 

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Those are just some incorrect readings....I would download rivatuner and run the monitoring program in the background while you are playing games. That way you can see how hot your GPU is getting..
This doesn't seem to be a CPU problem....Possibly the bios? Do you have the power connector plugged into the 7800GT ?

Power is connected to 7800GT, bios is default that came on the board. There had been some problems with some versions of the bios that came with the earlier A8N-SLI's with compatibility with dual-core, but my version worked fine. I currently do not have a floppy drive, but might have to go hunting for one to update the bios.

Where in rivatuner is the monitering tool for heat?
 

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Ok, swapping out PSU's. Blah. Ill be back with results.

GL
 
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