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The mice and sensor hardware listed on this page is in no way a measurement of performance or tracking properties. Performance between Mice with same Sensors may vary due to various reasons. Regardless, there are those individuals that will find this information useful.



Optical LED

SensorBrandModel
MLT04
MicrosoftIntellimouse Optical 1.1
MicrosoftIntellimouse Explorer 3.0
MicrosoftWheelmouse Optical 1.1
MicrosoftBlue

SensorBrandModel
A2020
LogitechMX300
LogitechMX500
S2020
LogitechG1
LogitechMX310
LogitechMX510
A3060
A4TechX-710BF/K/H
A4TechX-755K
A4TechX-760H
Corsair/Raptor GamingM3 DKT
GEIL EpicGearAnura
GEIL EpicGearMeduza
HadesParis H3
HadesOrion H9
MionixNaos 3200
QPadOM-75
SteelseriesIkari Optical
ZowieEC1/2
A3070
RazerDiamondback
A3080
A4TechX-718BK
A4TechX-748K
EmprexM873u
EverglideG-1000
KtecKTM-9500+
LogitechMX518
NZXTAvatar
RazerDiamondback
RoccatKova
ThermaltakeAzurues
ThermaltakeAzurues Mini
A3080E
LogitechMX518 2nd Gen.
S3088
RazerDiamondback Plasma
RazerKrait
S3668
RazerBoomslang 2007 CE
RazerDeathadder 3G
RazerDiamondback 3G
RazerSalmosa
S3888
RazerAbyssus
RazerAbyssus
RazerDeathadder 3.5G
A3090
CommatechM1
CoolermasterAlcor
CoolermasterRecon
CoolermasterSpawn
Corsair/Raptor GamingKatar
Corsair/Raptor GamingM30
Corsair/Raptor GamingM40
Cougar300m
Cougar400m
Cougar500m
EVGATorQ X3
FuncMS-2
GEIL Epic GearCyclops
GeniusMaurus
GeniusMaurus X
GigabyteRaptor
HamauRage Reaper 3090
I-RocksIR-7572
I-RocksM05/IM3
I-RocksM06
I-RocksIRMO5-WP
NEWMENGX1-Pro
NEWMENGX1-R "2015 Glare"
NEWMENGX2-Pro
NEWMENGX3-Pro
Mad CatzR.A.T. 3
NinoxAurora
OzoneRadon Opto
PerixxMX-1800B
PuretrakValor
RapooV300
RoccatKone Pure Optical
RoccatSavu
Sky DigitalNMouse 4k
SteelseriesKana v2
TesoroGungnir H5
ThermaltakeSaphira
ThermaltakeTheron Infrared
ZalmanZM-M600R
ZowieAM
ZowieEC1/2 eVo
ZowieFK
S3095
LogitechG400
LogitechG400S

SensorBrandModel
"Microsoft BlueTrack"
MicrosoftSidewinder X8

SensorBrandModel
VT5366
HadesAres Black
HadesPhorcy H8
SteelseriesKinzu

SensorBrandModel
PAW/PAN3305
A4techBloody V2
A4techBloody V3
A4techBloody V5 / V5M
A4techBloody V7 / V7M
A4techBloody V8 / V8M
A4techX-718BK "Rev. 2"
A4techX-748K "Rev.2"
GigabyteM6900
NEWMENGX1-F
NEWMENGX2
RoccatKova[+]
RoccatPyra
SharkoonFireglider Optical
SharkoonM20
SpeedlinkPrime Z-DW
SteelseriesKana
SteelseriesKinzu V2
SteelseriesWoW Legendary
ZowieMico
PAW3307
Cougar230m

SensorBrandModel
A3050
A4TechBloody Blazing A6
A4TechBloody Blazing A60
A4TechBloody Blazing A70
A4TechBloody Blazing A9
A4TechBloody Blazing A91
A4TechBloody N50
A4TechBloody R3a
A4TechBloody R7a
A4TechBloody R8a
A4TechBloody Warrior RT5
A4TechBloody Warrior RT62
A4TechBloody Winner T5
A4TechBloody Winner T6
A4TechBloody Winner T7
AsusEspada GT200
CoolermasterDevastator II
CoolermasterOctane
CoolermasterXornet
DeluxM626
FühlenG90
Cougar200m
Cougar250m
GamdiasApollo
GamdiasErebos Extension Optical
GamdiasHades Extension
GEIL EpicGearBlade
GEIL EpicGearZora
HamauRage Reaper nxt
I-RocksIR-7810R
I-RocksM09
James Donkey112S
NEWMENGX1-R
OeronMS
OzoneXenon
RapooV20
RapooV200
RapooV21
RapooV210
RapooV22
RapooV25
RapooV26
RapooV29
ReachaceVX10
RedimpGM200-A
RoccatKiro
RoccatLua
SpeedlinkLedos
SteelseriesKinzu V3
SunsonnyS-M15
TaiduTSG100
TaiduTSG301
Team ScorpionG-Reaver R2
TesoroSharur Spectrum
ThermaltakeTalon
ThunderX3TM20
ThunderX3TM25
Turtle BeachGrip 300
V7GM120
ZalmanG12-3050
A3055
LogitechG100
LogitechG300
LogitechG300S
LogitechG90
S3059
SteelseriesRival 100

SensorBrandModel
S3988
AsusGladius
CoolermasterSentinel III
CorsairSabre Optical
CorsairScimitar
Cougar550m
EVGATorQ X5 optical
GEIL EpicGearMorpha
GigabyteAorus M3
GigabyteXM300
HoriEdge 101
RazerDeathadder 4G
RazerKrait 4G
RoccatKone XTD Optical
TesoroAscalon
S3989
RazerDeathadder Chroma
PMW3310
AsusSica
AsusStrix Claw
CorsairM45
Cougar450m
Cougar530m
CougarMinos X3
DreammachinesDM1 Pro
DreammachinesDM2 Comfy
DuckySecret
E-3lueM668
FinalmouseErgo
FinalmouseTournament Pro
FnaticFlick
GEIL EpicGearCyclops X
GenesisKrypton 700
GeniusM6-400
GeniusM6-600
HansungGTune M40
HansungGTune M42
Kingston / HyperXPulsefire
KM-GamingK-GM1
NEWMENGX1000 Pro
Mad CatzR.A.T. Pro S
Mad CatzR.A.T. Pro X
MionixAvior 7000
MionixCastor
MionixNaos 7000
MSIClutch GM40
NatecGenesis GX75
OzoneExon F60 Origen
OzoneNeon M50
QPad8k Optical
ReachaceS100
ReachaceS100 Firewire
RoccatKone Pure Mil
SpeedlinkDecus Respec
SteelseriesRival
SteelseriesRival 300
TaiduTSG550
TesoroSagitta Spectrum
ThermaltakeVentus R
Thunder X3TM30
Thunder X3TM50
XtrfyXG-M2
XtrfyXG-M3
ZowieEC1/2-A
ZowieFK-1/1+/2
ZowieZA Series

SensorBrandModel
AM010
LogitechG100S
LogitechG302
LogitechG402
LogitechG602
PMW3320
AkkoMouse Retro
AzioEXO1
CoolermasterXornet II
CorsairHarpoon
FühlenCO300
FühlenCW100 OMG
GenesisXenon 400
Mad CatzR.A.T. 1
OeronMS2
OzoneNeon 3K
QPadDX-20
RapooV26S
RapooV280
RapooV28S
RapooV29S
RapooV302
RazerDeathadder 3500
RazerTaipan 3500
RazerTurret
RoccatKova 2015
SteelseriesRival Rescuer
TrustGXT-170 Heron
PMW3329
RazerAbyssus V2
PMW3325
A4Tech BloodyP81
A4Tech BloodyP87
A4Tech BloodyP88
ABKOA600
DeluxM626
FühlenG90 Pro
FühlenG91 Pro
FühlenG93S
GenesisKrypton 500
Mad CatzR.A.T. 2+
OeronMF2
OeronMS3
RoccatKone Pure SE
TaiduTSG309
TalentechEmber
ThunderX3RM5
ZalmanG18-3325

SensorBrandModel
PMW3366
LogitechG303
LogitechG403
LogitechG502
LogitechG703
LogitechG900
LogitechG903
LogitechPro
PMW3360
ABKOA660
ASUSROG Gladius II
CoolermasterMasterMouse Pro L
CoolermasterMM520
CoolermasterMM530
CorsairM65 Pro
CougarMinos X5
CougarRevenger
CougarRevenger S
CreativeSoundBlasterX Siege M04
DARE-UEM925 Pro "12000DPI"
DeluxM625
Digital AllianceG Premium
DreammachinesDM1 Pro S
FinalmouseScream One
GEIL EpicGearMorpha X
Havit

HV-MS735

Mad CatzR.A.T. 6+
Mad CatzR.A.T. 8
Mad CatzR.A.T. AIR
Mad CatzR.A.T. Pro X+
MSIClutch GM70
NewskillRenshi Guang
NinoxAstrum
NinoxVenator
NixeusRevel
Omen by HPGaming Mouse 600
OzoneExon F90
PerixxMX-3100
PlugablePM3360
PwnageAltier
Red Square1337
SpeedlinkOmnivi
SteelseriesRival 500
SteelseriesRival 700
TaiduTSG660
ThermaltakeNemesis Switch
ThermaltakeVentus X Optical
TrustGXT 188 Laban
ZalmanG18-3360
ZowieEC1-b
ZowieEC2-b
PMW3389
Kingston/HyperXPulsefire Surge
Mad CatzR.A.T. 8+
Mad CatzR.A.T. X3
RazerBasilisk
RazerDeathadder Elite
RazerLancehead TE
RazerNaga Trinity
PMW3361
RoccatKone EMP
RoccatKone Pure 2017
RoccatLeadr
PMW3367
CorsairGlaive
CorsairScimitar Pro
TRUEMOVE 3 esburtz pro juan:juan
SteelseriesRival 310
SteelseriesSensei 310
PMW3336
DARE-UEM925
DARE-UEM925 Pro
GamdiasZeus P1
ReachaceDM60
SharkoonSkiller SGM1
PMW3330
CoolermasterMasterMouse S
CougarSurpassion
GenesisKrypton 800
Mad CatzR.A.T. 4+
Mad CatzR.A.T. Pro S+
Mad CatzR.A.T. S3
ModecomMC-GMX4
MSIClutch GM60
SkyDigitalNKEY G007
SteelseriesRaw Optical
TalentechEmber Pro
ThunderX3AM7
ThunderX3TM55
PMW3339
RazerAbyssus Elite
RazerJugan
TrueMove Juan
SteelseriesRival 110
SteelseriesRival 300s

SensorBrandModel
"Mercury"
LogitechG102
LogitechG203
"HERO"
LogitechG603

Optical Laser (VCSEL)

SensorBrandModel
A6010
A4TechXL-740K
A4TechXL-747H
A4TechXL-750BK
MicrosoftSidewinder
MicrosoftSidewinder x3
MicrosoftSidewinder x5
RaidmaxHoorai
SharkoonFireglider
S6006
LogitechG3
LogitechG5
LogitechG7
S6018
MicrosoftHabu
RazerCopperhead
A6090
Cyber SnipaStinger
GigabyteM8000
LogitechG9
RoccatKone
SteelseriesWoW
A6098
Hades

Eris H2


SensorBrandModel
A9500
Ace of SwedenEDGE 3200
AnyzenG9
AorusThunder M7
AsusGX850
Corsair/Raptor GamingM4
CorsairM60
CorsairM95
Cyber SnipaSilencer
EVGATORQ X3 "Best Buy"
FuncMS-3
GEIL EpicGearMeduza
GeniusDeathtaker
GigabyteM6980X
GigabyteM8000X
Hewlett-PackardX9000 OMEN
LeetgionHeelion
LeetgionEl'Druin
MionixNaos 5000
Nacon / Big BenGM-400L
OklickHunter
OzoneNeon
OzoneSmog
PerixxMX-2000ll
PowerlogicAlien G9
PrestigioPMSG1
QPad5K
RevoltecFightmouse Elite
RoccatKone [+]
SharkoonDarkglider
SharkoonDrakonia
SpeedlinkDecus
SpeedlinkKudos
SpeedlinkKudos RS
SteelseriesSensei
SteelseriesSensei Fnatic
Steelseries

Sensei RAW, Diablo 3, Blackops II,

Guild Wars 2, Heroes of the Storm

SteelseriesWoW Cataclysm
SteelseriesXai
Team ScorpionZealot
TesoroShrike H2L
ThermaltakeBlack "DTA"
ThermaltakeBlack Element
ThermaltakeVentus
ThermaltakeVentus X
ThermaltakeVentus Z
ZalmanZM-GM1
S9500
DellAlienware TactX
LogitechG500
LogitechG700
LogitechG9X
A9800
A4TechBloody Terminator TL5
A4TechBloody Terminator TL6
A4TechBloody Terminator TL7
A4TechBloody Terminator TL8
A4TechBloody Terminator TL9
A-jazzAJ100
AsusGX860
AsusGX950
AsusGX1000
AsusSpatha
CoolermasterHavoc
CoolermasterMizar
CoolermasterSentinel Advance II
CoolermasterReaper
CorsairM65
CorsairM95
CorsairSabre Laser
Cougar600m
Cougar700m
Dare-U

Total excellent soldier armor mouse

EVGATorQ X5
EVGATorQ X10
EtekcityScroll Alpha
GamdiasErebos Laser
GamdiasHades
GamdiasZeus
GEIL EpicGearAnura
GeniusGila
GigabyteKrypton
G.SkillRipjaws MX780
James Donkey007
LioncastLM20
LioncastLM30
Mad CatzR.A.T. 6
MionixAvior 8200
MionixNaos 8200
OzoneArgon
PatriotV560
PerixxMX-3000
QPad5K L.E.
QPad8K Laser
RapooV310
RapooV900
RapooV910
RoccatKone Pure
RoccatKone XTD
RoccatTyon
RosewillRGM-1100
SenteyLumenata Pro
SharkoonDrakonia Black
SharkoonM51
SharkoonM52
SkillkorpM20
SteelseriesSensei MLG
TaiduTSG601
TesoroGandiva H1L
TesoroH2LV2
TesoroThyrsus
ThermaltakeLevel 10M
ThermaltakeVolos
Thunder X3TM40
Thunder X3TM60
Turtle BeachGrip 500
ZalmanZM-GM3
ZalmanZM-GM4 "Knossos"
S9808
LogitechG500S
LogitechG600
LogitechG700s
S9818
RazerOuroboros
RazerTaipan
S9819
RazerTaipan

"Optical checkerboard"

Saitek
R.A.T. 3CYONS2001
Mionix
Saiph 3200CYONS1001U
Nova
Slider X600CYONS1001U
Steelseries
Ikari LaserCYONS1001U

"Doppler Shift"

CM Storm
InfernoPLN2031
Sentinel/Sentinel AdvancePLN2032
Ozone
Radon 3KPLN2030
Radon 5KPLN2032
Gigabyte


M8600/M8600 v2

PLN2032
Aivia UraniumPLN2032
Razer
ImperatorPLN2032
Imperator 4GPLN2033
LachesisPLN2031
Lachesis 3.5GPLN2032
MambaPLN2032
Mamba 4GPLN2033
Naga/Hex/Epic/Molten/2012PLN2032
Naga 2013/2014PLN2034
OrochiPLN2031
Orochi 2013PLN2033
SpectrePLN2032
TronPLN2032
Saitek/Mad Catz
R.A.T. 3PLN2030
R.A.T. 5PLN2031
R.A.T. 5 RefreshPLN2032
R.A.T. 7PLN2032
R.A.T. 7 RefreshPLN2033
R.A.T. 9PLN2032
R.A.T. 9 RefreshPLN2033
R.A.T. T.E.PLN2034
R.A.T.M.PLN2033
Tt esports
Black "DTG"

PLN2031




"Gaming Mice" with Office Sensors (LED and VCSEL)

Asus
CerberusA5050


CM Storm

Devastator PAW3309
Cougar
DeathfireA5050
Minos X1A5050
Etekcity
Scroll X1 (M555)A5050
Gamdias
DemeterA5050
Demeter LaserA5050
Ourea opticalPAW3606DL
Gigabyte
GM-M6800PAW3101
James Donkey
112PAN3509
Mad Catz
R.A.T. 1 Rev.2PAW3204
Nacon / Big Ben
GM-105SPCP 168A
GM-300A5050
Ovann
6D 2400dpiSPCP 168A
Perixx
MX-800A5050
Redragon


M601 CENTROPHORUS

A5050
Saitek
Cyborg V3A7550
Sharkoon
Shark ForcePAN3509
Tesoro
SharurA5050
Zalman
ZM-M300A5050

Credits:

-Skylit, Bullveyr, DeMS, and few people that will go unnamed: You know who you are. Thank you.

-Anyone who has made a contribution to this thread: Sorry If I didn't name you =x

Sources:

Richard L. Owens: Optical mouse technology. Served as a reference for older tech.
 

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Does the G9x work so good as G500 on 9HD?

Through some posts I have read that the negative acceleration in G500 is avoided by using the 4HD/9HD. As its sensor is exactly the same used in G9x (different to used in Xai), would it work well on that surface mousepad?
 

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lb_felipe View Post
Does the G9x works so good as G500 on 9HD?

Through some posts I have read that the negative acceleration in G500 is avoided by using the 4HD/9HD. As the sensor is exactly the same used in G9x (different to used in Xai), would it work well on that surface mousepad?
It's actually positive acceleration and the only difference between the sensors on the Xai and the G500/G9x is the fact that you can tune how much prediction is set. So the answer is yes. The positive acceleration is totally over exaggerated I use them on cloth surfaces just fine without hampering my gameplay. I believe the positive accel is only around 5% or so. Not enough to cause any problems

Apparently this is only in the A9500. Disregard what I've posted earlier

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So which mice do you recommend if you want the least amount of problems?
Sensor wise, it's the DA 3G/3.5G but it's made by Razer and it's build quality is well, Razer.

OT: Great list. Now it just needs lift distance and it'll be perfect
 

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Now I do not understand. I thought that Avago "A"9500 shows "negative" acceleration on cloth and "positive" (much bit) acceleration on hard pad like 4../9HD.

It may be because I do not know english and Google Translator makes me a fool. Forgive me.

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OT: Great list. Now it just needs lift distance and it'll be perfect
incumbent

lift distance and grip would be nice. I know that this thread is about sensor, but...
 

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I have also heard of negative accel on the Avago 9500 but have so far failed to reproduce any. I do get a bit of positive regardless of the surface I use. I really can't find any reputable source of info. Your post has got me confused too lol :|
About the lift distance. I thought it depended on the sensor
 

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I am sorry. It depends. You have reason.

And would be very good, in my humble opinion, if add it to plan and too the kind of grip for each mouse.

Sorry for confuse you. I avoid to write here because I do not speak english. I promess to write less until I learn english well.

I found this video:


Thank you for replies.
 

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Oh, sorry after looking it up a bit more yes, it's only present in the A9500. I have tested two mice with the normal 9500 (Xai and Naos 5000) and they both don't have the negative acceleration. Sorry for the confusion :*D. Btw you're being too hard on your English it's all good imo.

Now I have to get my hands on a G500 to see this for myself.
 

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Oh, sorry after looking it up a bit more yes, it's only present in the A9500. I have tested two mice with the normal 9500 (Xai and Naos 5000) and they both don't have the negative acceleration.
I have tested this with the Xai and two G500's. They all have positive acceleration and they all hit negative acceleration on cloth pads well before their claimed speeds. Qck, Talent, Goliathus it doesn't matter. The sensor is flawed.
 

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I guess you took the max. speeds from ESReality MouseScore and that Japanese Guy (PC-MAX.de also has a benchtable)?
I wouldn't take some of those as "fixed absolute values", ESReality MouseScore is limited to the QcK and the Japanese Guy also has some of his results only on 1-2 surfaces.

Now some additions:

MS Habu:

it has the same sensor as the CH (S3018), dunno how put that on Wikipedia.


MX518:
Not sure on what version of the MX518 those 2 benches where done but perfect controle speed can be higher than 2m/s.

G9x/G500/G700
On what are those speeds based, a mix between the official specs and the benchtable results? (official specs would be 4.19m/s btw).

Razer DB:

The Plasma has the same sensor as the Krait (S3018) with an IR LED.

Orochi:

Same sensor as the Lachesis, no need for the "?".


Ikari Optical:

Afaik the Ikari loads the A3080 srom if set to 1600 CPI, so they aren't interpolated.

Ikari Laser:

It's OviationONS I, not II

Iirc it goes down to 1 CPI (exclusive to SS).

Xai:
Actually "Mouse Prediction: No, can enable" would be correct but that's just me being funny.


It's A9500, not S9500, and iirc it goes down to 100 CPI.

Zowie EX1/2:

Afaik the same as with the Ikari Optical, so no Interpolation.

Would need a "*" because a different lens affects the tracking speeds.

A4Tech X-718BK:

A3080

+ you can add interpolation for every A4Tech mouse

NAOS 3200:

From what I have read it only offers 800/1600/3200 CPI.
Whatever that means even more interpolation is present or they really use a 3rd party lens (unlikely).

Roccat Kova:

iirc it uses an IR LED

Philips twin-eye:

I wouldn't call it V1 and V2, that sensor was around before the Lachesis (originaly used in a Logitech mobile mouse).

Afaik the 3200 CPI version (Silverstone Raven) would be PLN 2030, 4000 CPI is PLN 2031 and the 5600 CPI one would be the PLN 2032.
 

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Originally Posted by Bullveyr View Post
I guess you took the max. speeds from ESReality MouseScore and that Japanese Guy (PC-MAX.de also has a benchtable)?
I wouldn't take some of those as "fixed absolute values", ESReality MouseScore is limited to the QcK and the Japanese Guy also has some of his results only on 1-2 surfaces.

Now some additions:

MS Habu:

it has the same sensor as the CH (S3018), dunno how put that on Wikipedia.


MX518:
Not sure on what version of the MX518 those 2 benches where done but perfect controle speed can be higher than 2m/s.

G9x/G500/G700
On what are those speeds based, a mix between the official specs and the benchtable results? (official specs would be 4.19m/s btw).

Razer DB:

The Plasma has the same sensor as the Krait (S3018) with an IR LED.

Orochi:

Same sensor as the Lachesis, no need for the "?".


Ikari Optical:

Afaik the Ikari loads the A3080 srom if set to 1600 CPI, so they aren't interpolated.

Ikari Laser:

It's OviationONS I, not II

Iirc it goes down to 1 CPI (exclusive to SS).

Xai:
Actually "Mouse Prediction: No, can enable" would be correct but that's just me being funny.


It's A9500, not S9500, and iirc it goes down to 100 CPI.

Zowie EX1/2:

Afaik the same as with the Ikari Optical, so no Interpolation.

Would need a "*" because a different lens affects the tracking speeds.

A4Tech X-718BK:

A3080

+ you can add interpolation for every A4Tech mouse

NAOS 3200:

From what I have read it only offers 800/1600/3200 CPI.
Whatever that means even more interpolation is present or they really use a 3rd party lens (unlikely).

Roccat Kova:

iirc it uses an IR LED

Philips twin-eye:

I wouldn't call it V1 and V2, that sensor was around before the Lachesis (originaly used in a Logitech mobile mouse).

Afaik the 3200 CPI version (Silverstone Raven) would be PLN 2030, 4000 CPI is PLN 2031 and the 5600 CPI one would be the PLN 2032.
Alrite, will fix.

Just making it clear that the google spreadsheet is open to everyone. Anyone can edit if they find something wrong.

Edit. Is the habu LED or Laser? It starts with an LED sensor code, but the perfect control and malfunction speeds tested @ esreality were in laser territory.

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I thought at g1 and mx510 is established Avago 3060
I'm confused about this as well. Between Perfect control and malfunction rates, none of the 3060's match up with each other. They're either using custom firmware or something along the lines. Sujoy and others on esreality stated that the sensor was indeed a S2020.

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Originally Posted by lb_felipe View Post
Does the G9x work so good as G500 on 9HD?

Through some posts I have read that the negative acceleration in G500 is avoided by using the 4HD/9HD. As its sensor is exactly the same used in G9x (different to used in Xai), would it work well on that surface mousepad?
Hard pad is preferred. May people experience random positive/negative acceleration on cloth. Avago themselves have confirmed this problem with all versions of the ADNS-9500.

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I have also heard of negative accel on the Avago 9500 but have so far failed to reproduce any. I do get a bit of positive regardless of the surface I use. I really can't find any reputable source of info. Your post has got me confused too lol :|
About the lift distance. I thought it depended on the sensor
Depends on sensor position and or lens. Take the Ikari Optical and Zowie EC1/2 for example. Same sensor, but the Ikari has a LOD of 3.5mm and the EC1/2 has a LOD of 1.5mm.

Edit: If you want a column for LOD, then sure I guess we can do that, but I'm going to need help filling it in. Just making it clear that it's going to be based on the mouse, and not the sensor.

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So which mice do you recommend if you want the least amount of problems?
That depends on your grip and surface.
 

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For me, I'm mostly a palm gripper (switched to claw on some games) on a hard surface mat. Trying to wonder which mice would work for me.
 

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Alrite, will fix.

Just making it clear that the google spreadsheet is open to everyone. Anyone can edit if they find something wrong.
I know but I will certainly not make a google account.


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Edit. Is the habu LED or Laser? It starts with an LED sensor code, but the perfect control and malfunction speeds tested @ esreality were in laser territory.
Ups, my fault, it's ofc S6018 (ADNS-6010).

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I'm confused about this as well. Between Perfect control and malfunction rates, none of the 3060's match up with each other. They're either using custom firmware or something along the lines. Sujoy and others on esreality stated that the sensor was indeed a S2020.
Jep, G1/MX310/MX510 have the S2020 which was exclusive to Logitech, just like the A2020 (most likely same hardware).

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Hard pad is preferred. May people experience random positive/negative acceleration on cloth. Avago themselves have confirmed this problem with all versions of the ADNS-9500.
but they don't say that it will have real accel. probs on cloth in general.


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Depends on sensor position and or lens. Take the Ikari Optical and Zowie EC1/2 for example. Same sensor, but the Ikari has a LOD of 3.5mm and the EC1/2 has a LOD of 1.5mm.

Edit: If you want a column for LOD, then sure I guess we can do that, but I'm going to need help filling it in. Just making it clear that it's going to be based on the mouse, and not the sensor.
Lens and sensor position is in most cases pretty much the same but there are other factors.

A LOD chart would need many different mouse pads.
 

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Btw you're being too hard on your English it's all good imo.
Thanks for encouragement.

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Hard pad is preferred. May people experience random positive/negative acceleration on cloth. Avago themselves have confirmed this problem with all versions of the ADNS-9500.
Thanks for reply.

So G9x and G500 both have same performance on a same mousepad. Is it right?
 

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Avago Sues STMicroelectronics Over Patents for Mice:

March 18 (Bloomberg) -- Avago Technologies Ltd., a maker of semiconductor products, filed a patent-infringement lawsuit against STMicroelectronics NV over sensors used in optical mice.
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The complaint, filed March 15 in federal court in Tyler, Texas, names the SteelSeries Kinzu Optical Mouse that contains STMicro components as one example of an infringing product.
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Now I can finaly tell that the Kinzu has a sensor from STMicroelectronics.
 

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They always got outperformed by Avago, on thze plus side they only had the very low LOD.
(I don't coun't angle snapping because it has nothing to do with the technical quality of a sensor).
They were never able to make a modern sensor (higher CPI and IPS).

The sensor department is surely not the biggest one.

The sensor might be a fail but I would guess SS sold a a not too low number of Kinzus.

Not the first and not the last time Avago sues because of their sensor patents.
 

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Did microsoft sneek an avago sensor into the newer WMO's? I have a couple of original 2002-2003 models and they look nothing alike, Infact, the original sensor pcb is a lot smaller and looks like it shares the same hardware as the IE3.0/IO1.1. This on the other hand, dosen't...
 
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