[Enigma8750]

Some source reported that AMD is ready to present the 45 nm four core processors deneb in the present month. The processors phenom X4 20550 (3.0 GHz) and Phenom X4 20350 (2.8 GHz) Socket AM2+ will be presented to the end of November.

Officially AMD acknowledged about its intentions to present only the 45 nm server processors shanghai in the middle of November . It this case according to some AMD road map slides the processors deneb can be announced in the first days of January.

According to our own source in twentieth this month AMD will make a briefings about the forthcoming announcement Of deneb and only engineering processors models for reviewers will begin to be extended.

 

[my77stang]

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It this case according to some AMD road map slides the processors deneb can be announced in the first days of January.

probably at the CES show in vegas, i'll be there and i'll report back with some cool pics from the show and whatever info i can dig outta the guys at the amd booth

 

[smoothjk]

Is there any difference between the AM2+ 20550 and the later AM3 3.0 Deneb other than DDR3 and AM3 mobo support ?

 

[9voltchicken]

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Originally Posted by smoothjk Is there any difference between the AM2+ 20550 and the later AM3 3.0 Deneb other than DDR3 and AM3 mobo support ?

AM3 will be a move to ddr3 standard with sb800. Some am2+ mobos will be compatable with AM3. ASUS listed theirs recently.

In terms of processor difference, everything we know is purely up to speculation. Very little information about AM3 processors has been shared.

 

[Enigma8750]

I do know that 4ghz overclocks are gonna be pretty realistic. And the 20550 is gonna be 45 nm and 3 ghz and gonna be out by late November.

 

[Lukeatluke]

I hope AMD will get on his feet and to one more legendary CPU.Athlon FTW.

 

[Enigma8750]

yes the first Generation Deneb will be backwards compatable with the am2 and the AM3 and will be ddr2 and ddr3 compatable as well.

 

[vi3t_boy]

if Deneb can do better than Core7 in games ,then my next rig will be An AMD.

 

[Enigma8750]

Actually that will be in july of next year when they are suppose to pass intel in the race.

 

[Enigma8750]

one of the things that intel has done to keep up with what AMD is coming out with is to take away the FSB and the bus terminal will be internal on the chip just like the AMD is now with the Phenom

 

[Enigma8750]

Here is some new numbers to drool over..

Phenom X4 20050 Deneb 4 6MB AM2+
Phenom X4 20000 Deneb 4 6MB AM3
Phenom X4 16000 Propus 4 - AM3
Phenom X3 14000 Heka 3 6MB AM3
Phenom X3 12000 Rana 3 - AM3
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Phenom X4 20550 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 512KB x4 6MB AM2+ Q4, 2008
Phenom X4 20350 Deneb 2.8GHz 4 512KB x4 6MB AM3 Q4, 2008

AMD is going to optime model names for their 45nm quad-core Phenom X4 and tri-core Phenom X3 processors. The older parts (20350 and 20550) are prepared for socket AM2 to support only DDR2 1066 memory modules, while the rest of CPUs are going to be the new socket AM3 and support up to 1333MHz of DDR3 memory

There will be two distinct kinds of Phenom X4 45nm chips: those which continue support for DDR2 memory on the existing AM2/AM2+ sockets, and those which are exclusive to the AM3 socket and feature support for DDR3 memory, DDR3 1333MHz at that. The processors would feature dual 64-bit memory controllers, which could be ganged for a single 128-bit wide memory interface, to step up multi-tasking efficiency.

The first two Phenom parts out are, Phenom X4 20350, clocked at 2.80 GHz, and a higher model, Phenom X4 20550, clocked at 3.00 GHz. Both these parts are DDR2 compatible which extends the life of current AM2/AM2+ platform. Both have rated TDP of 125W. This is an improvement over the 65nm parts, which had a third of the amount of L3 cache and the 2.60 part being rated at 140W.

Next up, is a fleet of AM3 socket processors that use DDR3-1333 as the memory standard. Their nomenclature starts from the 16xxx range, extending up to 20xxx depending on the clock speed. It can be seen that the parts with a full 8 MB cache (4x 512 KB L2 + 6 MB L3) feature a 20xxx number, while those based on the Propus core which lack L3 caches, feature a total of 2 MB cache (4x 512 KB), have 16xxx series number depending on their clock speeds. Finally, 45nm Phenom X3 parts are listed, with their two kinds of cores depending on the presence of L3 caches. They use 14xxx for those with the L3 cache (Heka core), and 12xxx for those without them (Rana core). The model numbers are now a complete deviation from the PRN system AMD used only an year ago with its Athlon 64 X2 chips. AM2+ Deneb chips are just around the corner.

 

[Enigma8750]

http://en.expreview.com/img/2008/09/...CPU-list-b.png

 

[Enigma8750]

Question are those HT 3 number of 4000 mean 8000 HT or is it just 4000 HT?

 

[Dylan]

5 posts in a row?

Christ dude... you can put more than one thing in a post...

 

[Enigma8750]

Phenom X4 20Ã-00 (Deneb) - 3GHz, 8MB of L3 cache, 125W TDP, scheduled for Q2 2009
Phenom X4 20550 (Deneb) - 3GHz, 8MB of L3 cache, 125W TDP, scheduled for Q4 2008
Phenom X4 20Ã-00 (Deneb) - 2.8GHz, 8MB of L3 cache, 125W TDP, scheduled for Q1 2009
Phenom X4 20350 (Deneb) - 2.8GHz, 8MB of L3 cache, 125W TDP, scheduled for Q4 2008
Phenom X4 20Ã-00 (Deneb) - 2.6GHz, 8MB of L3 cache, 95W TDP, scheduled for Q1 2009
.
Phenom X4 16Ã-00 (Propus) - 2.8GHz, 2MB of L2 cache, 95W TDP, scheduled for Q1 2009
Phenom X4 16Ã-00 (Propus) - 2.6GHz, 3MB of L2 cache, 95W TDP, scheduled for Q1 2009
.
Phenom X3 14Ã-00 (Heka) - 2.6GHz, 7.5MB of L3 cache, 95W TDP, scheduled for Q2 2009
.
Phenom X3 12Ã-00 (Rana) - 2.8GHz, 1.5MB of L2 cache, 95W TDP, scheduled for Q2 2009
Phenom X3 12Ã-00 (Rana) - 2.6GHz, 1.5MB of L2 cache, 95W TDP, scheduled for Q2 2009

The 20xxx models have a TDP of 125W, while the 16xxx parts have 95W TDP and smaller cache. The Phenom X3 14Ã-00 will offer bigger cache than the 12Ã-00 parts. Furthemore, all of the Phenoms will feature HyperTransport 3.0 bus at 4,000MHz.

 

[The Master Chief]

Will the AM2 HSF fit on AM3?

 

[Higgins]

AM2, AM2+, and AM3 are all supposed to be pin-compatible.. So as long as the motherboard makers patch their BIOS, you can run an AM2+ CPU on an AM2 board, and an AM3 cpu on both AM2 and AM2+ mobos.

Atleast thats the last i heard about it.

 

[The_Leetard179]

I cannot wait

Hopefully prices won't be too high

 

[Jprone]

Yeah, I've been drooling over the specs on the Deneb's for a while now. I can't wait to see some pics of the actual chips in the wild!

 

[smoothjk]

I heard the first Denebs would be coming out later this month, but then I read this article that said the earliest Denebs would be out January 2009. =/ Looks like no Deneb for the holidays if that's true.

http://en.gamers.com/news/view_1869.html