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It's not terribly often that gamers and the industry that sells games find themselves comfortably mounted on the same high horse, but this week the stars seem to have aligned. The recipe for this odd harmony? Take one deeply unpopular British government and have them fund an advertising campaign regarding childhood obesity and its impact on life expectancy, using videogames as your example of a sedentary, "unhealthy" activity.

A flurry of hysterical internet posts, and only marginally less hysterical statements from the industry, has ensued. Gamers and industry, united in their outrage at this vile targeting of this poor, innocent medium, have railed against the Government, accusing the Change4life campaign of ignorance about games, of unfairly targeting the medium ("you wouldn't see them saying this about reading books," goes one popular refrain) and even of Big Brother tactics.

It's hard to say why the campaign has elicited such a strong response. Perhaps it's that gamers are so used to the medium being blamed for things it hasn't done - school shootings, youth violence and so on - that there's now a knee-jerk reaction to any criticism, no matter how valid.

Because have no doubt - the criticism, if it can be characterised as such, which is made by Change4life's campaign is valid, reasonable and eminently sensible.

Britain, like many other first-world countries, is facing a health crisis as a result of childhood obesity. Childhood obesity occurs as a conse.....

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Funny thing is, watching the advert on the TV is bad for your health. So in effect, they are a part of the problem
They really didn't think it through.
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Or how bout they teach people not to shovel the crap they call fast food in their mouth and actually have mommy or daddy or your guardian cook you some damn food for once instead of relying on others to feed your child.
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Or how bout they teach people not to shovel the crap they call fast food in their mouth and actually have mommy or daddy or your guardian cook you some damn food for once instead of relying on others to feed your child.
+1

The main cause of obesity is over-consumption. Gaming is just like everything else, only good in moderation. (well, except maybe sex
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I read the article. It mentions TV and books, breifly. I don't see the difference between sitting on the couch watching tv and playing <insert game console here>.

It's all part of the problem. Parents need to step up and moderate things. Everything is ok in moderation.
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Originally Posted by IcedEarth View Post
Funny thing is, watching the advert on the TV is bad for your health. So in effect, they are a part of the problem
They really didn't think it through.
Exactly. They are a bunch of hypocrites probably with some kind of profiting plan out of this.

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Or how bout they teach people not to shovel the crap they call fast food in their mouth and actually have mommy or daddy or your guardian cook you some damn food for once instead of relying on others to feed your child.

Exactly 2x.
Why the hell would you attack video games, when 99.9% of the time has to do with about dozens of other things.

Here is a very good one aside from the obvious bad nutrition food like fast food. Soda.
Soda is absolutely horrible for you in almost every damn way. Yet there is almost little to nothing done against it. Fast food is bad, but even that isn't as bad as Soda. I've seen kids chug down Soda like they've been stranded in the desert for weeks yet they just had a soda about an hour ago. My brother is a soda junkie, hell most kids are. Fast food at least has a large awareness, soda - not so much.
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.... My brother is a soda junkie, hell most kids are. Fast food at least has a large awareness, soda - not so much.

My mom _was_ a soda junkie until it caused major stomach cancer that almost took her life... She was surprised to learn that soda causes cancer when consumed in large quantities and even thought the Dr. was making things up until she got a second opinion.

As for the OP, I think it depends upon the game you are playing. Wii fit and Wii sports are a good example. Hell Doom3 made me break out in a sweat after playing for an hour and I could not sit still. Games like Guild Wars (or that more popular MMO), you aren't really active enough to notice.
(I stopped playing Guild Wars after falling asleep at the keyboard one night...)
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Since i've started gaming more intensely i have actually lost weight because i am not snacking all the time. You want to not be/get fat stop eating between meals and don't eat huge meals.
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Since i've started gaming more intensely i have actually lost weight because i am not snacking all the time. You want to not be/get fat stop eating between meals and don't eat huge meals.

Losing weight and being healthy do not go hand in hand.

Look at how skinny your average nerd is (stereotyping ftw
) Just because they are skinny it does not mean they are in any way peak physical condition. In fact, a fat person who trains regularly could be just as healthy if not even more healthy than a skinny kid sat in front of a pc.

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Personally, I don't think you can pin point anything as the root of all evil. Soda, fast food, gaming, tv, books they are all just contributory factors that are all caused by bone idle ignorance. The true problem is the fact that our goverment hand feeds our children so that they don't need to look after themselves.

Hell, in the UK they have banned sports days, because they are too competitive...so much for promoting healthy living huh!

What we need to do is treat our kids like individual human beings, not sheep. Treat them like they have a duty to be responsible for themselves and maybe they will start looking after themselves. Whilst we have them under a blanket, they won't do anything.
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My mom _was_ a soda junkie until it caused major stomach cancer that almost took her life... She was surprised to learn that soda causes cancer when consumed in large quantities and even thought the Dr. was making things up until she got a second opinion.

As for the OP, I think it depends upon the game you are playing. Wii fit and Wii sports are a good example. Hell Doom3 made me break out in a sweat after playing for an hour and I could not sit still. Games like Guild Wars (or that more popular MMO), you aren't really active enough to notice.
(I stopped playing Guild Wars after falling asleep at the keyboard one night...)

I have some coworkers that drink soda all day. (literally start wither a 2 liter in the morning and get another by noon time, and that is usually after a huge energy drink) Granted, I drink a ton of coffee, but all I add is a little 1% milk. I can remember when I was a kid and my Dad would drink diet coke all the time. I thought it was disgusting. now that I am older, I drink it instead of regular soda. You have no idea how much sugar is in soda (and just about everything else. Coffe coolata anyone?) until you get used to going without.

FYI, there is something like 1/2 a pound of sugar in a 2 liter bottle of Coke.
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I have some coworkers that drink soda all day. (literally start wither a 2 liter in the morning and get another by noon time, and that is usually after a huge energy drink) Granted, I drink a ton of coffee, but all I add is a little 1% milk. I can remember when I was a kid and my Dad would drink diet coke all the time. I thought it was disgusting. now that I am older, I drink it instead of regular soda. You have no idea how much sugar is in soda (and just about everything else. Coffe coolata anyone?) until you get used to going without.

FYI, there is something like 1/2 a pound of sugar in a 2 liter bottle of Coke.
Fake sugar is just as bad as real sugar if not worse.
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Fake sugar is just as bad as real sugar if not worse.
I was making the point that consumers consume massive amounts of sugar without realizing it due to them becoming used to it. I am not saying that sugar substitutes are any better or worse than regular sweeteners.
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I have some coworkers that drink soda all day. (literally start wither a 2 liter in the morning and get another by noon time, and that is usually after a huge energy drink) Granted, I drink a ton of coffee, but all I add is a little 1% milk. I can remember when I was a kid and my Dad would drink diet coke all the time. I thought it was disgusting. now that I am older, I drink it instead of regular soda. You have no idea how much sugar is in soda (and just about everything else. Coffe coolata anyone?) until you get used to going without.

FYI, there is something like 1/2 a pound of sugar in a 2 liter bottle of Coke.

Well diet coke is better then drinking normal soda. Its certaintly not as big as a threat as normal soda BUT diet coke has chemicals in it (most "diet" drinks do) that can cause serious problems. Its not common, my parents drink it day in and day out, but there are bad things that can happen.
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Well diet coke is better then drinking normal soda. Its certaintly not as big as a threat as normal soda BUT diet coke has chemicals in it (most "diet" drinks do) that can cause serious problems. Its not common, my parents drink it day in and day out, but there are bad things that can happen.

I rarely have one on its own. I drink lots of coffee, water and tea. My diet coke usually has some captains in it


There was a woman that I worked with last year that had some dizzy spells ( I would have sworn they were natural for her, lol) that the doctors determined was some chmical found in diet coke. Again, the real issue is moderation. Anything in large amoumts is bad for you if only for the fact that it tends to lose its appreciation factor once abused.
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I have some coworkers that drink soda all day. (literally start wither a 2 liter in the morning and get another by noon time, and that is usually after a huge energy drink) Granted, I drink a ton of coffee, but all I add is a little 1% milk. I can remember when I was a kid and my Dad would drink diet coke all the time. I thought it was disgusting. now that I am older, I drink it instead of regular soda. You have no idea how much sugar is in soda (and just about everything else. Coffe coolata anyone?) until you get used to going without.

FYI, there is something like 1/2 a pound of sugar in a 2 liter bottle of Coke.

Enjoy your cancer. The fake sugars used in some diet soda's are petroleum derivatives(Re: Same source substance as gasoline, a known poison), while Aspartame(The other common substitute) has been repeatedly linked to cancer and brain issues.

The sugar in regular coke is real sugar, it won't give you cancer or poison you.

But hey, tasting like rotten ass isn't enough of a warning as to the toxic chems inside that diet cola, no?
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I've played more videogames since the age of 4 than anyone I know. I also drink mad coffee, coke, beer, and I eat at McDonalds quite a bit, mulitple times per week. I am also the healthiest person I know. =\\

I exercise and limit my intake to match what I exert in my day to day life. It's really easy to not be fat. Just stop eating ******ed amounts of food. There are fat people who are fat because they eat 2 pounds of salad every day. You can't eat 2 pounds of anything and not get fat, I don't care if it's healthy green foods.
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Enjoy your cancer. The fake sugars used in some diet soda's are petroleum derivatives(Re: Same source substance as gasoline, a known poison), while Aspartame(The other common substitute) has been repeatedly linked to cancer and brain issues.

The sugar in regular coke is real sugar, it won't give you cancer or poison you.

But hey, tasting like rotten ass isn't enough of a warning as to the toxic chems inside that diet cola, no?

Without describing my last 32 years of life, Diet Coke is the last thing I am worried about giving me cancer.

I do agree that real sugar is one of the best, healthiest sweeteners out there. I also don't consume gallons of Diet Soda a day.
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I've played more videogames since the age of 4 than anyone I know. I also drink mad coffee, coke, beer, and I eat at McDonalds quite a bit, mulitple times per week. I am also the healthiest person I know. =

I exercise and limit my intake to match what I exert in my day to day life. It's really easy to not be fat. Just stop eating ******ed amounts of food. There are fat people who are fat because they eat 2 pounds of salad every day. You can't eat 2 pounds of anything and not get fat, I don't care if it's healthy green foods.

/thread. This is very true.
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