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Updated 6-30-19 Future home of the X570 Aorus thread.


https://www.aorus.com/event-detail.php?i=1083

AORUS Pillow & Screwdriver
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X570 beta BIOS thread: http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/7098...ta-bios-thread


Aorus Xtreme = flagship , no chipset fan, 70A powerstages and IR direct PWM on 8 layer PCB , RGB commander , dual BIOS +switch , debug LED , ESS DAC, 10G LAN, 3xM.2, RGB commander thing
--> Buildzoid overview
--> Anandtech https://www.anandtech.com/show/14432...for-ryzen-3000



Aorus Master = overclocking features such as Debug LED/dual BIOS switch , IR direct PWM with 50A IR3556 on 6 layer PCB, fully finned heatsink + thermal backplate (Taichi has cosmetic backplate and Asus' lineup only has it on Formula) , 3x M.2 , ESS DAC, 2.5G LAN

--> OC3D unbox https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/...ster_preview/1

--> Anandtech https://www.anandtech.com/show/14537...ie-40-m2-slots
--> Gearseekers unbox




Aorus Ultra = 3x M.2 , 12x 40A IR3553 powerstages with IR PWM with heatpiped fully finned heatsink on 6 layer PCB, wifi 6, functionally most of the same as Pro / Pro WIFI
--> Buildzoid breakdown



Aorus Pro/Pro WIFI = 12x 40A IR3553 powerstages with IR PWM on 6 layer PCB , heatpiped heatsink with fins on main finstack ALC1220-VB, rear USB port count, SLI support

--> Anandtech https://www.anandtech.com/show/14490...ithout-wi-fi-6
--> OC3D



X570I Aorus Pro WIFI = 6x TDA21472 70A powerstages on 8 layer PCB, backplate, wifi 6

--> Buildzoid breakdown


Aorus Elite = 12x Vishay 50A SiC634 powerstages on 4 layer PCB (the weakest board in the X570 lineup from Gigabyte) , WIMA audio capacitors (main non-VRM advantage over ASUS TUF X570)


Aorus Elite VRM analysis by Buildzoid

Overview from Kitguru

https://www.kitguru.net/components/m...ll-in-on-x570/
 

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My test setup

Mobo Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145155


Cpu Amd Ryzen 9 3900x https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103?Description=3900x&cm_re=3900x-_-19-113-103-_-Product


Thermal paste Thermalright TFX 14.3W/mK https://www.newegg.com/p/2MB-001F-00006?Item=9SIA4RE8M70692



Ram Team T-Force Bdie https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331241?Item=N82E16820331241


NVME Silicon Power 256gb https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-p34a80-256gb/p/N82E16820301393?Item=N82E16820301393


Nvme Sabrent pcie 4.0 1tb https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Maximum-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW


PSU Gskill PS1250P Platinum https://www.gskill.com/en/product/ps1250p-platinum-power-supply


GPU Zotac GTX 1080ti Amp extreme https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-zt-p10810f-10p/p/N82E16814500423?&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleKWLess&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleKWLess-_-DSA-_-CategoryPages-_-NA&gclid=CjwKCAjwsIbpBRBNEiwAZF8-z5IYoxqTEbuAhWgaNN-QATzCn-oJHXdIK2-olFcmpxNV-7CfIwykRhoCz4sQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


HDD's 2x WD blue 1tb raid 0 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822236339?Description=1tb WD blue&cm_re=1tb_WD_blue-_-22-236-339-_-Product


SSD's 2x Inland Professional 480GB in Raid 0 https://www.amazon.com/Inland-Professional-480GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B07BD32RLK


Case Rosewill BlackHawk Ultra https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147157?Description=Rosewill Blackhawk ultra&cm_re=Rosewill_Blackhawk_ultra-_-11-147-157-_-Product


Cooling using an XSPC Pro block and RS360 rad with push pull. D5 pump with EK top and Bykski Res 1/2in Id soft tube. For case cooling the case has 9 120x20mm fans in side panel. 2x 120mm in front 1x 140mm in rear. 2x 140mm on Hdd cage in case. Behind Mobo has 1x120mm fan in back panel. top of case has 6 120mm 1500rpm in push pull on Rs360.
 

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Benchmarks. I will update as I can. Setting will be XMP on mem and Auto on cpu. I might get to OC results on cpu when i can.


OC settings. [email protected] @1.344v Ram at [email protected]



3dMark Vantage


3dMark 11


3dMark Firestrike


3dMark Firestrike Extreme


3dMark Firestrike Ultra


3dMark Sky Diver


3dMark Time Spy


Cenibench R11.5


Cenibench R15 3445


Cenibench R20
 

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Newest BETA BIOS with AGESA 1004B (11/20)
  • Per CCX Overclocking Support
  • Many additional options opened/moved under Tweaker -> Advanced CPU Settings
X570 AORUS Xtreme - F10D
X570 AORUS Master - F10D
X570 AORUS Ultra- F10D
X570 AORUS Pro Wifi - F10D
X570 AORUS Pro - F10D
X570 I AORUS Pro (ITX)- F10D
X570 AORUS Elite - F10D
X570 AORUS Elite Wifi - F10D
X570 Gaming X - F10D

Older BETA BIOS with AGESA 1003 ABBA (10/15)

X570 AORUS Xtreme - F5E
X570 AORUS Master - F7E
X570 AORUS Ultra- F6E
X570 AORUS Pro Wifi - F6E
X570 AORUS Pro - F6E
X570 I AORUS Pro (ITX)- F6F
X570 AORUS Elite - F5F
X570 AORUS Elite Wifi - F3F
X570 Gaming X - F5F


AGESA 1004B Change Log

Useful Docs

VRM Info: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CnA5xLV4F9_x99QBE0lxWcDxGctE9eBRUg_GwHjM9z0/

PCIe Diagrams: https://drive.google.com/open?id=193tSL7U6VwPwnWYm4NPdjQQ3xZwShiAD

FAQ

Q: What is "High frequency support" under XMP?
A: This is a quick way to adjust Infinity Fabric speed manually.
  • Level 1 = 1600 IF
  • Level 2 = 1700 IF
  • Level 3 = 1800 IF
  • To go above 1800 IF set the speed manually, do not use these presets.
Q: XMP doesn't work!
A: Make sure you are:
  • Using slot A2/B2 - From CPU skip a slot, RAM, skip a slot, RAM. I cannot emphasize this enough. If you are helping someone T/S a problem this should be your first question.
  • You are using the latest BIOS.
  • For debugging RAM please keep everything else default.
  • If the above don't help post your RAM kit and any steps you have tried to fix the problem.
Q: My RAM voltage goes to 1.2V when setting a CPU multiplier.
A: Your OC is unstable. Try raising Vcore.

Reported Issues Status

Issue | | Status
Disabling CSM causes BIOS to become slow||Reproducible / Working on a fix*

*Temporary work around on latest BETA (F7B) - Press CTRL-F6 in BIOS. Set resolution to "VGA First" This will lower resolution but should fix the lag. Its just a temporary work around. Let me know if if works.

I dont see my BIOS on the webpage!!!

We have tons of servers worldwide. If you don't see a file, or get access denied, it means the file hasn't propagated there yet. You need to go to the global page...

Here is an example of the US page: || gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10/
Here is an example of the global page: ||gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10/

Notice the only difference is the "/US". Simply remove that. For EU remove "/EU", etc... If you get the access denied message try the ASIA server. Its the same file, just a different mirror!

How to use Q-Flash Plus without a CPU:
 

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Future xtreme owner reporting early; will be pairing it with a 3900X; i don't have most folks' obsessions, so a simple all core OC from the BIOS (yes yes, i know about PBO-2-3-X) and a simple RAM OC with tertiaries handled automatically from the mobo is just fine by me :)
Cooled with air no less!

Since a rep is present, i'd also say that i don't care about integrated sound, killer networkzzzz, flashy RGB, sexy looks, or ego-driven "buy the best out there" motivations; i have (already i suppose) chosen the Xtreme because of quality, passive chipset cooling (longevity) and hopefully the typical Gigabyte high end mobo durability.

Will be a while for me however, waiting for Noctua's D15 replacement to come out, waiting to see what Samsung has to offer on the Nvme side of things; sure as hell not buying a Corsair product (currently at least the only option). Lastly, lol, i'm waiting for Sound Blaster to release their new flagship.
Mobo will be a day one purchase however. I've some complaints about Gigabyte, sure, but they're my first choice, have been for some time now ^^
 

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AMD MOBO's looking good!
 

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ahh still dont know if i sould go for the Master(because of the 3.0 Front USB ports)
or for the Asus Hero, because i think the Bios COULD be better and MAYBE a bit better RAM OC (4 Sticks 3733)
 

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ahh still dont know if i sould go for the Master(because of the 3.0 Front USB ports)
or for the Asus Hero, because i think the Bios COULD be better and MAYBE a bit better RAM OC (4 Sticks 3733)

Gigabyte has been on a mission for better Bioses lately. If you have used a Z390 board you would see how far they have come. I would buy the Giga over the Asus for the support if you ever have an issue. All you need to do is google how bad Asus is to customers these days.
 

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Gigabyte has been on a mission for better Bioses lately. If you have used a Z390 board you would see how far they have come. I would buy the Giga over the Asus for the support if you ever have an issue. All you need to do is google how bad Asus is to customers these days.
yeah i read really bad things. Like on the Asus Rog Phone. Failed screen wont get repaiered under Warrenty and so on...

Aorus big Pro for me is:
Real Heatsink for VRM
2 USB3.0 header for my case

And i can bet, that the master will be cheaper than the Hero(Asus tax)
 

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yeah i read really bad things. Like on the Asus Rog Phone. Failed screen wont get repaiered under Warrenty and so on...

Aorus big Pro for me is:
Real Heatsink for VRM
2 USB3.0 header for my case

And i can bet, that the master will be cheaper than the Hero(Asus tax)
I have now a CH6 extreme, all i can say is i miss so much my taichi. I cant match the performance that i previously have with the taichi :( Dont matter this bios full of features, does nothing at the moment of true.

To replace my taichi i like the aorus pro x570 but here on my country has arrived too expensive, about 300 dolars (no wifi), the Master is 400 dolar here. So i guess is a much better buy than PRO.
 

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yeah i read really bad things. Like on the Asus Rog Phone. Failed screen wont get repaiered under Warrenty and so on...

Aorus big Pro for me is:
Real Heatsink for VRM
2 USB3.0 header for my case

And i can bet, that the master will be cheaper than the Hero(Asus tax)
The Master has a Direct PWM setup, the Hero is using 7 phases with doubled up powerstages. If you aren't using LN2 (nobody does for a daily system, let's be realistic), provided the BIOS isn't completely buggy (it shouldn't be), then the 12-14 phases from the Infineon PWM on Gigabyte's Aorus Master or Xtreme will give you better ripple and allow you to shut off phases more granularity when not in use (i.e. achieving peak efficiency across the power delivery spectrum all the way down to idle).



Additionally the backplate on the Master is thermally conductive to the VRM section, whereas all you get on the Hero is a small brace at the back.


50A IR3556 has the same footprint as the 60A IR3555 so the main difference is maximum amperage rating. Even threadripper TR 2950X used around max 350W on ambient , so power quality is of more importance once you exceed 10 powerstages.

Also if you fail overclocks on memory the Aorus boards down to the Aorus Pro have dual BIOS, with Master/Xtreme having a switch. The single BIOS (SB) switch is invaluable since it physically isolates the BIOS chips. If you get hit with malware (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-implements-new-certificate-structure,39072.html , https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/asus-z390-motherboards-automatically-push-software-into-your-windows-installation) or a flash a corrupt BIOS you don't need to RMA your board. I don't think that has been stated enough, since a corrupt BIOs on a non dual BIOS board has to still rely on flashing from USB. There were plenty of people that needed to RMA their Crosshair boards because the "Crashfree BIOS" or "BIOS flashback" doesn't work.

In terms of usability the M.2 heatshields being separate also makes it less of a hassle and the Hero only comes with 2x M.2.

In terms of integrated audio the Master is also stronger spec-wise, it uses ESS 9118 instead of ESS 9023P , has WIMA caps, and the audio codec is ALC1220-VB rather than ALC1220.

Every Master board comes with WIFI 6 +BT whereas the Hero has it as an option.
 

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The Master has a Direct PWM setup, the Hero is using 7 phases with doubled up powerstages. If you aren't using LN2 (nobody does for a daily system, let's be realistic), provided the BIOS isn't completely buggy (it shouldn't be), then the 12-14 phases from the Infineon PWM on Gigabyte's Aorus Master or Xtreme will give you better ripple and allow you to shut off phases more granularity when not in use (i.e. achieving peak efficiency across the power delivery spectrum all the way down to idle).



Additionally the backplate on the Master is thermally conductive to the VRM section, whereas all you get on the Hero is a small brace at the back.


50A IR3556 has the same footprint as the 60A IR3555 so the main difference is maximum amperage rating. Even threadripper TR 2950X used around max 350W on ambient , so power quality is of more importance once you exceed 10 powerstages.

Also if you fail overclocks on memory the Aorus boards down to the Aorus Pro have dual BIOS, with Master/Xtreme having a switch. The single BIOS (SB) switch is invaluable since it physically isolates the BIOS chips. If you get hit with malware (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-implements-new-certificate-structure,39072.html , https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/asus-z390-motherboards-automatically-push-software-into-your-windows-installation) or a flash a corrupt BIOS you don't need to RMA your board. I don't think that has been stated enough, since a corrupt BIOs on a non dual BIOS board has to still rely on flashing from USB. There were plenty of people that needed to RMA their Crosshair boards because the "Crashfree BIOS" or "BIOS flashback" doesn't work.

In terms of usability the M.2 heatshields being separate also makes it less of a hassle and the Hero only comes with 2x M.2.

In terms of integrated audio the Master is also stronger spec-wise, it uses ESS 9118 instead of ESS 9023P , has WIMA caps, and the audio codec is ALC1220-VB rather than ALC1220.

Every Master board comes with WIFI 6 +BT whereas the Hero has it as an option.
+Rep!

Thanks. That sealed the deal for me! Cant wait anymore. I wanna burn my saved cash :thumb:
 

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My Master should come Monday. Big question is do i buy 12 core on the 7th or do I wait for 16......... Tough one for me.
 

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Ahhh lucky :) Wanna order too^^
 

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So which of the x570s don't come with a stupid chipset fan either glaring in your face or hidden under tiny slits inside the wanna be heatsink?

Any chipsetless boards?
Aorus Extreme comes without a fan
 
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