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Gigabyte X570 AORUS Master Overclocking Thread
https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-...-master-overclocking-thread.html#post28071802


Has a Memory Overclocking section that should apply to all X570 AORUS boards.

 

[Heuchler]

[QVL] Qualified Vendor List - Memory

Memory Support List for X570 AORUS XTREME
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10#support-doc

Memory Support List for X570 AORUS MASTER
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10#support-doc

Memory Support List for X570 AORUS ULTRA
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ULTRA-rev-10#support-doc

Memory Support List for X570 AORUS PRO WIFI
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#support-doc

Memory Support List for X570 AORUS PRO
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-PRO-rev-10#support-doc

Memory Support List for X570 AORUS ELITE
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10#support-doc

Memory Support List for X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-I-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#support-doc

Memory Support List for X570 GAMING X
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-GAMING-X-rev-10#support-doc

 

[Heuchler]

The Master has a Direct PWM setup, the Hero is using 7 phases with doubled up powerstages. If you aren't using LN2 (nobody does for a daily system, let's be realistic), provided the BIOS isn't completely buggy (it shouldn't be), then the 12-14 phases from the Infineon PWM on Gigabyte's Aorus Master or Xtreme will give you better ripple and allow you to shut off phases more granularity when not in use (i.e. achieving peak efficiency across the power delivery spectrum all the way down to idle).



Additionally the backplate on the Master is thermally conductive to the VRM section, whereas all you get on the Hero is a small brace at the back.


50A IR3556 has the same footprint as the 60A IR3555 so the main difference is maximum amperage rating. Even threadripper TR 2950X used around max 350W on ambient , so power quality is of more importance once you exceed 10 powerstages.

Also if you fail overclocks on memory the Aorus boards down to the Aorus Pro have dual BIOS, with Master/Xtreme having a switch. The single BIOS (SB) switch is invaluable since it physically isolates the BIOS chips. If you get hit with malware (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-implements-new-certificate-structure,39072.html , https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/...-push-software-into-your-windows-installation) or a flash a corrupt BIOS you don't need to RMA your board. I don't think that has been stated enough, since a corrupt BIOs on a non dual BIOS board has to still rely on flashing from USB. There were plenty of people that needed to RMA their Crosshair boards because the "Crashfree BIOS" or "BIOS flashback" doesn't work.

In terms of usability the M.2 heatshields being separate also makes it less of a hassle and the Hero only comes with 2x M.2.

In terms of integrated audio the Master is also stronger spec-wise, it uses ESS 9118 instead of ESS 9023P , has WIMA caps, and the audio codec is ALC1220-VB rather than ALC1220.

Every Master board comes with WIFI 6 +BT whereas the Hero has it as an option.

Great analysis. Totally missed that WIMA caps part (German film capacitors that audiophile community loves). Pretty excited about this board.

 

[Heuchler]

Captain AORUS [LOL]

Xtreme Power Design for 16+ Cores

 

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Captain Aorus ***? Way better than captain marvel^^

nano-carbon coating with 3X thermal conductivity for the base plate [win for Captain AORUS in my book].
Maybe just stick one or two 40x40 mm copper water blocks on that back plate. Could save me from having
to buy a monoblock. What did Captain Marvel do for me lately ?



What is the difference between carbon nanotubes and graphene?

Carbon Nanotubes are cylindrically rolled sheets of graphene. Graphene is a single atomic layer of crystalline graphite and enlisted as a 2D material and CNT can be thought of as a rolled sheet of graphene in a hexagonal lattice of carbon geometry.

Graphene Coated CPU Cooler -

 

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Couldn't make up my mind up between Ryzen 7 3700X or Ryzen 9 3900X (now both out-of-stock). Let the F5 spamming game begin.


great job on Aorus Review Round-up. SUPER rep AlphaC

 

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else CTRL + F1

 

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@Aenra (not sure but OCN has me replying to AlphaC post on X570 AORUS reviews)

HR-55 (50 more HR than me). Nice. I have been looking for one of them. Should have order one before X570.

I kept them all. Guess I'm a collector. One HR-05 SLI on GA-P35-DS3L and the other on GA-P35-DS3R (will be donors, Elite and Master look fun).

Thermalright Coolers: SK7 (x2), AX7, XP-90, XP-120, Ultima-90, TRUE 120 original and a TRUE 120 rev.C 1366-RT (now on AM4), True Spirit and AXP-200R

 

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On the fence about switching from my X58 to an X570 and if I do it'll be the Extreme

I found X58 painful to use over the last year. Might be X512 worth [X570 - X58] for very similar HEDT platforms like design ideas behind it.
45nm quad-core to 32nm hex-core, octo-core 14nm to 16-core 7nm, Plenty of PCIe lanes. AM4 has been a fun experience other than the original launch.

Fedora 30 (Spin XFCE instead of Gnome) + Ubuntu 18.04LTS with kernel 5.0 backport from 19.10 (for use with Wine , DXVK/D9VK) on XFCE desktop environment
& Windows 7 Pro SP1 on my R7 2700X system with Windows 7 chipset drivers
Bit of history

Spoiler

I started using Ubuntu around version 5 (Knoppix was a popular live distro at the time) and started looking for alternatives around 12 or so (when Amazon integration was introduced with Unity interface). At the time Linux Mint gained many users because of this. With the announcement of Ubuntu dropping 32-bit support Linux Mint Debian edition (LMDE) might have a resurgence.


I used Manjaro for a short time in a VM but then the install was borked beyond repair so probably not going to deal with that again. Additionally most commercial software comes in rpm (Fedora/CentOS/RHEL) or deb (Debian/Ubuntu/Linux Mint) packages. The Fedora flatpaks streamline updates quite a bit, while Ubuntu simply has greater support in general for consumer applications as much as people hate it (through snap since 16.04 or ppas). For example Navi (RX 5700XT) is getting official AMD drivers on Ubuntu LTS.

There's been a push to use .AppImage which essentially is standalone for all Linux distros.

I was going to get Ryzen 3rd gen but R9 3900X and R7 3700X sold out right after I finished reading reviews.

Windows doesn't show the true capability of Ryzen: there's large amounts of potential still yet to be discovered by reviewers that are using Windows 10. For example my R7 1700X @ 3.9 scores higher Geekbench 4 single thread than a R7 2700X with PBO in Windows or i5-8600.


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Ultimately I think the most elegant solution is to cool the chipset from the back of the board , although most cases don't have a cutout there so likely a thermal pad with a full metal plate or simply a thermal pad to the case might be an option (assuming newer BIOS scale RPM based on temperature). The problem with HR-05 / HR-55 is that it may interfere with larger GPU coolers.

Makes me wonder what if I did switched from Windows back then. GPU Passthrough on Ryzen hopefully will allow me to put Windows into a box. The launch day reviews made me not sure on which processor to pickup. By the time more details came to light they where sold out. 7nm yield seems good so just a matter of time.

 

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Nice to see on here Timmy Joe. Enjoyed your Fury and RX 5700 custom cooling videos. The X570 Aorus Pro seems like a lot of board.

Hey there, long time listener, first time caller. I've got some things to say. I got the Aorus Pro Wifi today and damn it's impressive. Similar board and Moparman is me friend so I'll post this here:

Able to boot a Geil kit of B-Die 4133 CL19 to boot with the XMP profile and just work: https://www.newegg.ca/geil-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820158762

First time I've been able to do that on any platform with out lowering the frequency. I will be messing with the timings but for my first post I figured I'd show how well the 3700x and these Aorus boards are working together! The screenshot is the memory bandwidth at the xmp profile along with the frequencies and scores I'm getting on a Deepcool Captain 240mm CLC and just PBO set in the bios to auto. I loved the x470 version of this board, I can tell I'm going to love the x570. I've got some issues booting my Radeon RX 5700 on it though. I've got an email to Gigabyte in about that.

 

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Anyone have any input on whether to run the Master, Ultra, or Pro (most likely a 3900X on it)? I'm trying to talk myself into the cheaper boards to shave a few $$$ off but I don't want to end up with a board that won't be optimal for the 3900X or........potentially......whatever might come in the next gen(s) that will fit in an X570. Of course I'm also trying to talk myself INTO the Extreme so I don't have to deal with a chipset fan, but yeah that's probably not gonna happen. I'm also not a huge fan of the look of the fan on the Pro. My understanding is the Ultra and Pro have the same VRM?

Power Delivery Controller H-Side|L-Side I/O Doubler B-CLK Audio

GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Xtreme 16x70A IR XDPE132G5C (14+2) TDA21472 (14) 3x M.2, 10GbE,1GbE - Y ESS 9218 DAC + ALC1220-VB WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Master 14x50A IR XDPE132G5C (12+2) IR3556 (12) 3x M.2, 2.5GbE,1GbE - Y ESS 9118 DAC + ALC1220-VB WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Ultra 12x40A IR35201 (6+2) IR3553 (12) 3x M.2, 1GbE IR3599 (6) ALC1220-VB WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ULTRA-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Pro/WIFI 12x40A IR35201 (6+2) IR3553 (12) 2x M.2, 1GbE IR3599 (6) ALC1220-VB WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE X570 I Aorus Pro ITXI 6x70A IR35201 (6+2) TDA21472 (6) 2x M.2, 1GbE - ALC1220-VB WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-I-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#kf
GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Elite 12x50A ISL69138 (6+1) Vishay DrMOS (12) 2x M.2, 1GbE ISL6617 (6) ALC1200 with WIMA film & Nichicon Fine Gold cap https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10/sp#sp
GIGABYTE X570 Gaming X 12x50A ISL69147 (5+2) OnSemi 4c10n+4c06x2 2x M.2, 1GbE ISL6617 (5) ALC887 with Nippon Chemi-Con https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-GAMING-X-rev-10#kf

Xtreme fanless and almost everything is a heatsink on the board
Master has thermally conductive backplate
Fins-Array VRM Heatsink on all models except Elite and Gaming X



Audio spec wise $140 Sound BlasterX AE-5 with ESS SABER32 122dB SNR and WIMA caps $140, newer Sound Blaster AE-7 uses ESS 9018 SABRE DAC w/ WIMA caps $170
On paper the Aorus Exteme and Master has some very nice audio features. Can't wait to test.

 

[Heuchler]

[PCGH] torture test Aorus X570 Xtreme passive cooling capacity using Ryzen 9 3900X with Prime95 w/AVX and The Witcher 3

[can enable subtitles/closed capture and use auto translate]

X570 AORUS Master BIOS Overview (for anybody interested in the board) pre-rease BIOS F5c

 

[Heuchler]

Since someone posted a ""review"" video of the Aorus Xtreme..
(and no offense to the poster, comment would have been the same no matter the source)

Please be careful with what you post please, especially if it's a ""review""; meaning that if you have watched something before you link it here, make the extra effort and point out the inconsistencies, errors, etc; don't just paste vids.
99% of the sites out there spread the wrong information around, we don't need to do that as well.
When someone loads Prime to test an X570 mobo's chipset's temps ... need i say more? No

It's an excellent board, that has thus far not being graced with an excellent review; a very common phenomenon. Unofrtunately.

this has subtitles and you can use auto translate

Result 11min mark - 55.4°C average with 57.3°C max (chipset)

torture testing the passive cooling capacity using Ryzen 9 3900X with Prime95 w/AVX while playing The Witcher 3

PC Games Hardware (PCGH) has been around a long time and one of the few PC magazines that is still in-print (not just a digital presence) - https://www.pcgameshardware.de/


Aorus Xtreme has everything heatpiped together backplate, VRM heatsinks, x570 chipset (I might be wrong about that if so please correct me).
So Prime95 stress testing while having a game load in the foreground is a valid test to me.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=KCMdu5ERZoA

 

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Lacking comprehension is fine; they do too; which is also fine sadly, as that's what Youtubers are in their vast majority; just like every other random Joe, only with free toys.
The problem lies, again, when lacking understanding, we add our voice to that of others, until in the end a falsehood passes for truth. Not a novel concept, now is it.
Worse still when, rather than verifying, we insist on being correct because other millennials with free toys said so.

You want to test how hot this chipset gets, you put on a couple of gen4 NVMes, in the chipset controlled NVMe slots; you put one or two HDDs in the chipset controlled SATA ports; and while you're simulating some semi-intensive workload on them all (semi because we're after realistic stuff, not synthetic benchmarks), you simultaneously make sure your internet bandwidth is capped or near enough; if/when being also controlled by the chipset (see dual jacks). Again, simultaneously.
THAT is how you test THIS chipset, for TEMPS.
(do you even know what Prime does? Really, really does? Are you sure you do..?)

Unless again you're one of those people getting free toys and thinking freedom of speech = right to pass around whatever misinformation you like. Because "Youtuber".
('you' and 'we' figuratively)

So, Prime95 won't put a thermal load on the x570 chipset on Aorus Xtreme because is somehow thermally knows to decouple itself from the heatpipes somehow. Good to know.
The X570 Aorus Xtreme is a over-engineered giant heatsink that could be used as art. See that would be an example of a fanboi post. Have you looked at the chipset temps of the competitions lineup.

BTW i take it back about what I said about your HR-55 as the HR-05 SLI/IFX is just fine.


der8auer's initial tests show that using PCIe 4.0 peripherals under stress doesn't make much of a difference to power consumption on X570 0.4W higher on NVMe Gen 4 than Gen 3 [both idle and load]
More testing is definitely need. Multiple NVMe Gen 4 drives configurations testing would be nice. der8auer thinks the X570 Aorus Xtreme chipset cooling is nice [end of the video].


SSD under load (running CrystalDiskMark for 15 minuets) using CH VIII and Corsair MP600 (3rd slot - chipset)

X570 Power Consumption Measured [English]

original der8auer video in German

[Summary of the video]
You can see that the X570 power consumption starts from a much higher base, idling at 7.35W with no NVMe drive attached. The yellow highlighted bars show max power usage der8auer observed with various combinations of NVMe Gen 3 and SATA drives, and one included a PCI graphics card running the FurMark benchmark too. Finally the bottom two results, in red, show power consumption when there is a Corsair NVMe gen 4 SSD attached, and in/active. Der8auer is surprised by how little difference there is between NVMe Gen 3 and 4 under load in terms of power consumption

https://hexus.net/tech/news/mainboard/132515-der8auer-examines-amd-x570-chipset-power-consumption/

 

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Isn't there supposed to be an Aorus Elite Wifi or does Anandtech have me waiting for something not real?

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14161/the-amd-x570-motherboard-overview/28

I only need bluetooth so I could just as easily grab the Elite and a usb bluetooth dongle if need be.

I think X570 Auros Pro WIFI and X570 I Auros Pro WIFIi (ITX)
https://www.aorus.com/product-list.php?t=53

 

[Heuchler]

In case anyone was wondering, the PCIE 4.0 Aorus NvME drive does fit on the ITx board with the chipset fan heatsink


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIsv-Efv_Hs

Very good video. Pretty nutty times when a ITX board has a better VRM than most full size ATX boards. Wendell also noted that a Aorus Master review will be coming out soon.


"We tested the Gigabyte Aorus Master (A+) and the Taichi X570 for launch. We will have full reviews of those up in the next few days"
https://www.level1techs.com/article/ryzen-3000-navi-megathread




"My experience with the 3900x was somewhat different. For the 3900X, which is a beastly 12-core chip, I was finally able to achieve 4.5ghz all-core overclock stable (even for AVX workloads!) at 1.45v with a manual overclock and a lot of fiddling. PBO, Ryzen Master and UEFI settings to enable Overclocking in Precision Boost Overdrive + Auto Overclock didn’t really do quite as well, but I would occasionally see clocks of about 4.55ghz from the 3900X with everything opened up and PBO enabled"

 

[Heuchler]

Gigabyte X570 AORUS Pro Wi-Fi Review
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gigabyte-x570-aorus-pro-wifi/15.html


RightMark Audio Analyzer (Aorus Pro/Ultra use ALC1220-VB while Aorus Elite uses the ALC1200).

I haven't seen any reviews on the Aorus Elite yet.

 

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Anyone experience getting cpu exchanged from Micro-center? I went to swap out CPU cooler and the cpu was stuck on the heatsink when i pulled it off. Bent some pins but I was able to bend them back but still can't get it to "seat" in the socket. So I'm gonna take my chances and take it back for exchange since its less then a week old.

Should never swap a cooler without heating it up first. Bonus if you have the computer running before hand you also know it was working before changing any thing.


Keith from wccftech

 

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The rumor mill site wccftech reviewed it as well and had the same note about missing post code / debug LED:
https://wccftech.com/review/amd-ryz...pu-review-x570-aorus-pro-wifi-motherboard/11/


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Also for the PCH , the Aorus Master heatsink seems fine and on par with MSI Ace


https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-x570-aorus-master-atx-motherboard,6227-3.html
Tom's hardware has an unusual con: Steel back cover adds a pound of unused heft


Apparently they didn't notice it cools the power delivery.

Tech journalist using Intel's PCH term when talking about AMD chipsets tends to make me want to stop reading the article right there.
I was thinking about linking the wccftech review about Arous Pro, very positive review, but couldn't because the silliness about missing POST code
when it has debug LEDs, which unless you have all the POST codes memorized are much more useful. Seems like after Buildzoid complained about it
that everybody needs it and CLR BIOS, Power and Reset buttons. My last three high end boards all have those features and after the first day
I never have touched them again.

Love the fact that nobody has pointed out how completely useless the "MSI's Boost knob which goes all the way up to 11" on
MSI MEG X570 Godlike and ACE are.


"A closer look reveals an extra switche to disable dual-BIOS mode, but hardcore overclockers would rather not have the board’s active selection process in the specs sheet"
under Final Thoughts on Tom's Hardware Review (above Cons: Steel back cover adds a pound of unused heft and Only four SATA ports available when third M.2 is occupied).


Before Ryzen 1000-series launched some people made claims about knowing clock speeds.

[Feb 26, 2017] AMD Ryzen 8 Core, 6 Core and 4 Core CPUs Will Clock Up To 4.40 GHz Using MSI’s Game Boost Feature
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-processors-overclock-frequency-bundles/

 

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I've been testing for quite a few hours and i was only able to get 4.4ghz on all cores on my 3900x which means I'll stick to my 4.3ghz overclock if anyone was curious.
https://valid.x86.fr/seztgm

Nice. That is a lot of compute power.