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Hi guys, I will get my AORUS Master this weekend and i read that the thermal pad on chipset is not the best one. Since i have some Fujipoly Extreme thermal pad laying around I was wondering is it worth changing the thermal pad before put my whole machine together. Just out or curiosity what is the thickness of the original thermal pad since i have a lot of 1mm left and a brand new 600x50x1.5mm.

 

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So I bought a cheap pair of DDR4 3800 CL18 for 100 Euros on an offer (I assume it was a mistake when I bought them online because the price went up after my order was confirmed). Somewhere on the internet I found that the kit should have Hynix dies but it didn't. It has Nanya dies. Has anyone used them of has experience overclocking them.

It would be interesting these days to see how much I can overclock them, hopefully get down to CL16 instead of 18 now.
Out of curiosity this would be a kit i would get imminently Ripjaws V DDR4-4266MHz CL17-18-18-38 1.50V 32GB (2x16GB) but not sure if its worth now.

 

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Will check it and come back maybe it will be helpful.
Thanks

 

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Corsair does memory lottery, you gotta check the version number for the parts used. And websites & sales don't mention which versions they sell, it's always random.

I wanted to try and overclock the memory faster and for CMK32GX4M2Z3600C18 I couldn't find anything really useful. probably I have to remove the ram and heatsink to see more numbers,

Just did some quick Ram overclocking, went in and added Samsung b-die primary timings from DRAM calculator and did a 45 min memtest. I attached a baseline with XMP aida benchmark and another one with primary times set.

Tweaking secondary timings resulted in errors when tested with memtest. I probably need a lot of time to understand these chips and then find what is causing the errors. This will take a lot of time since i haven't done much overclocking in years.

This is the result i got from dram calculator benchmark. probably some of you can give me hints what should i do to lower secondary timings

I lowered memory voltage to 1.33 in bios and now it reads 1.368. For now I am not sure if F30 bios has wrong readings but in general it is about 20-40mV higher then set. I read somewhere that superIO has some issues with memory voltage readings but just thouhgt is better to aks if this is a common thing that you guys know.

Ideally i would like to run these as CL14


EDIT: there is no way i can run these under 16 even with +1.4v. Also now the biggest issue is setting a low RPT.

 

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For me F31d is not as stable as it was with memory OC. I already have a pair of weird Corsair Vengeance LPX with Nanya dies that i got super cheaf (for 100 euros). I could OC them before with safe Samsung die timings from Ryzen DRAM Calculator now I cannot. I just went back to default XMP profile as I don't want to push the voltage too much as I am not sure what is a safe voltage for these.

 

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Since you have a Master you can stick one of the thermal probes on it and control the speed of a fan directly pointed towards the memory.
It's a good cheap solution to raise the voltage.
If you can keep them below 50c it should be ok.
You really need a lot of voltage to cause any damage; way before the danger zone you'll see TM5 errors popping up.

Not sure what is happening with this bios but I have issues now having stable memory even at 1.4v. Also for some reason every time the motherboard failed to post all saved bios settings were deleted. I just gave up for tonight with memory overclocking.

 

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Finally in a shop close to me I can pre-order 5 series and get them on 17th this month. Not sure if i should go and get one now or wait for prices to drop for quite some time.
Prices are:

• 5950x - €919
• 5800x - €509
• 5600x - €339

It is just insanely tempting to go and get 5950x now, others CPU's I don't think they are worth the price now. Also checking prices in geizhals.eu the seller here is not charging too much

 

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Yes the price premium for the 5950x it's still acceptable, not for the others.
But I'll wait for the new AGESA and will do silicon lottery. I'm trying to resist

Not sure if I should wait or just get it. its very very tempting since the shop is like few mins away on foot XD. AGESA will come regardless so but just not sure if its worth the wait, what i mean with the wait is like 1 year, and probably a new revision of CPU or smth .

 

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Might be irrelevant to post 5serires prices in here. Still thinking about gettin that 5950x. They have it in stock for some time

 

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yeah, I felt that MSI or Asus would been a better choice now..

Yes same here after what you are talking, also that time there was a 300Euro offer for Crosshair VIII Hero, but I decided to go with Gigabyte for Intel LAN and better VRM for 5950 later (probably March 2021 for my b-day). Still 2 months since I got the motherboad and the only issue I have is BIOS 31 doesn't like RAM overclocking. Fingers crossed Gigabyte will iron out some issues that are talked all the time.

 

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Is there a spreadsheet with all/ or most common things you have to look after when overclocking. Althought ryzen dram calculator does a lot for overclocking

 

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The issues on MSI as exactly the same right now. I agree that GB doesn't have the best BIOSes out there, but the problems we're experiencing are observable 1-to-1 in the other manufacturer-threads as well. I'm explicitly watching MSI Unify and Tomahawk threads besides this one (as I have a Unify on RMA, which failed).

AMD failed miserably again, here. It feels like real AGESA development started just before launch and their software departments aren't as big as Intels.

Yes it is very true, but the amount of stuff you read about x570 Master seems like few issues are more pronounced in this motherboard (besides so far I love the motherboard), and it is worrying if you machine leaves you hanging when you need it the most. If gaming is an issue that for me it is not the biggest issue but when I am working I think it makes you feed bad for the purchase. Still i believe most issues can be solved with BIOS since there are many shared x570 issues being talked around. Thanks for sharing your thoughts for other boards @panni

 

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do you know if the issue if the issue with Red and Green coulor swap is fixed, or we should still do the patch and compile with the fix ?

 

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Good news I believe, if someone else haven't posted this yet.
New AIDA64 Extreme 6.32.5600 (Aida download URL) now supports Zen 3. Would be nice if someone can confirm if there are any differences in results.

Release notes:

• AVX2 and FMA accelerated 64-bit benchmarks for AMD Zen 3 based Ryzen 5000 Series processors
• EVGA iCX3 sensor support
• GPU details for AMD Radeon RX 6000 Series
• GPU details for nVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050, GeForce RTX 3060, GeForce RTX 3060 Ti, GeForce RTX 3070 Ti, GeForce RTX 3080 Ti

 

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Here's the comparison, definitely a different picture now on some tests

--------[ AIDA64 Extreme ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Version AIDA64 v6.32.5600
Version AIDA64 v6.30.5500

--------[ Memory Read ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4625 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 58972 MB/s
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4575 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 58772 MB/s

--------[ Memory Write ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4625 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 57982 MB/s
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4650 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 57931 MB/s

--------[ Memory Copy ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4600 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 56393 MB/s
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4700 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 56350 MB/s

--------[ Memory Latency ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ryzen 9 5950X 4750 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 56.6 ns
Ryzen 9 5950X 4725 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 56.6 ns

--------[ CPU Queen ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4625 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 165717
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4975 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 165733

--------[ CPU PhotoWorxx ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4575 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 35869 MPixel/s
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4575 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 34870 MPixel/s

--------[ CPU ZLib ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4575 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 1842.1 MB/s
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4625 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 1823.8 MB/s

--------[ CPU AES ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4425 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 290048 MB/s
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4450 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 158992 MB/s

--------[ CPU SHA3 ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4475 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 7401 MB/s
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4475 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 5610 MB/s

--------[ FPU Julia ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4525 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 210008
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4550 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 159897

--------[ FPU Mandel ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4550 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 115408
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4525 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 84139

--------[ FPU SinJulia ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4625 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 26177
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4975 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 26429

--------[ FP32 Ray-Trace ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4450 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 34830 KRay/s
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4475 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 35150 KRay/s

--------[ FP64 Ray-Trace ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4475 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 18664 KRay/s
16x Ryzen 9 5950X HT 4450 MHz Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master X570 Dual DDR4-3800 16-16-16-32 CR1 18779 KRay/s

Thanks, yes some tests are another league, but what I am happy is that memory tests are the same. Are you @ManniX-ITA happy with your 5950x ?

 

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Since i moved away from bios 30 i am struggling to make my memory kit run at CL16 using Ryzen Dram calculator so I decided to ask for some help in the forum. I believe I am missing something in here to make my kit stable.
My kit is, I would say a cheap one:

and my current setup is (included DRAM calculator as is was my baseline):

 

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Make your vddp voltage manual to 950-1050 range and maybe try 1.5voltage on ram too since you nanya kit that will take 1.5 too its cheapest one i think hard to make stable.

Increasing volgages is making everything super unstable. If ram voltage goes above 1.46 it starts giving me BSOD. Still its a 100 euro memory kit cant expect much more from it, but on the other side would like to see what can I get from them.

 

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Maybe I am not fully awake ATM, but you are using B-die timings?

Yes that is my baseline, at least those worked with bios 30.

 

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Sorry but the Master Rev 1.0 is awful with memory and particularly with B-die.
It's the reason why I bought an MSI Unify-X.
I have a Trident-z RGB F4-4000C16-16GTZR kit.
The difference is astonishing; I can run timings and speeds that were out of reach with the Master.
They also run 5-10c cooler which means I can go to much higher error-free VDIMM without additional cooling.

So you had Master Rev 1.0 I suppose. I always thought you had 1.1 at least. Revision 1.2 as I know has just a Realtek LAN firmware update that is not possible to do via bios so in terms on Memory OC 1.1 and 1.2 should be the same. By pure guessing can you say what will be the difference between Master 1.1/1.2 and MSI Unify-X (i know MSI has the best AMD motherboards especialy when it comes to Memory OC)

 

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Wonder what gigabyte will improve and what new stuff they will bring. Hopefully new bios features e.g. asus dynamic OC, will be available also for us older users.

Gigabyte X570S Motherboards Spotted, Presumably Made For AMD Ryzen Zen 3+ Refresh 'Warhol' CPUs

Gigabyte's X570S motherboards have been listed at EEC which is presumed to feature support for AMD Ryzen Warhol Zen 3+ Desktop Refresh CPUs.

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