[Frietkot Louis]

I've tried both N18 and N19 and they both give a POST CODE 97 after a while and then the post process restarts.

X570 Gigabyte master / X3900 / Gigabyte 1080ti N11 / Corsair MP600 1TB / G-skill NEO 2x16 GB 3600-16-19-19-19 (GTNC) / ASUS essence STX sound card PCIEx1 (bottom slot)

 

[Frietkot Louis]

F7F on X570 Master has the same behaviour that I noted before in N18 and N19, POST CODE 97 at the end of POST and after 15-20 seconds reboots in the next POST etc. etc. etc.

 

[Frietkot Louis]

The F10a bios is out for the X570 Master. I wonder if @GBT-MatthewH or anyone else know if it's the same as F7F or if it's a new one.

Well I just tried it and what I know is that it also stops in POST code 97, same as the other

I tried removing all USB devices apart from keyboard and mouse, connecting just 1 screen to my gfx card, cmos clear etc.

The VGA LED on the motherboards stays on

I guess would be that the GFX card initialisation is not working, since USB devices are removed and my DRAM sticks from my experience have a very high tolerance to improper timings (boot will work but they may be slower or fail a ram test after many minutes).

My graphics card is a Gigabyte 1080ti 11G

Back to F7b then.

 

[Frietkot Louis]

Have your tried crtl f6 to change to hd mode and flash again?
If that works, then we have narrow down to gigabyte problem with full res bios..

Just to be sure , are you saying that VGA mode is not working correctly or FULL HD mode is not working ?
I almost always work in VGA mode due to slowness with CSM disabled.
Thank you.

 

[Frietkot Louis]

IMHO Boost clocks don't really mean that much, they seem to be VERY short boosts and don't have a real impact on performance.

My 3900x seems to like an undervolt offset of -0.100 Volt, works great with lower temps, boost clocks are 50 Mhz lower but benchmarks show better performance !?

I've also tested with a manual clock of 4400Mhz (CCD1) / 4200 Mhz (CCD2) @ 1.33V Idle / 1.30V full load Vdroop, it's rock stable and single thread performance is about the same as auto clocks, multicore performance is about 10% higher depending on the benchmark (most gained with FP benchmarks).

My initial goal was to lower the Voltages going into the processor, but it turns out that this CPU likes the lower voltages and clocks better @ manual

 

[Frietkot Louis]

Yes i mean, can you try in vga mode. full hd/original mode may cause the gpu initialisation fault.

But i guess since you already in vga mode, my suspicion is not right

Well, you might still be right because after the F10a (or any other bios) update it will default to FULL HD anyway. But since I get nothing on my screen I cannot go into the bios to change it to VGA because the POST locks up.

 

[Frietkot Louis]

Aorus Master x570 no boot after flash bios F10a.

Can you check your POST CODE & LED ?

 

[Frietkot Louis]

Pulling the card allows me to boot successfully with F10a flashed. Put the card back in - no boot. Tried all the free slots - no difference.



I will run some quick tests and reflash back to F3f. Faster boot times not a fair trade for losing my sound card. Thanks for the tip!

Interesting, I have the STX also. I use it because the onboard audio had big interference (which I later tracked down to the front-panel audio connector acting as an antenna.)

Now that it's in there I kinda want to keep it since I use the dolby digital encoding over the coax to my sound system.

I suppose it will be fixed soon now that the cause is probably known.

 

[Frietkot Louis]

Hello everyone...


Where am I making a mistake? Could you please describe it step by step?

I'm so sorry right now.. eagerly bought these memories...

I hope you can help

Thank you all..

Hello, you could start by setting the following values in BIOS (try with 1866 first):

Tweaker:
DRAM multiplier : 37,33
DRAM Voltage : 1.40 (to start with)
VCORE SOC Voltage: 1.125

AMD CBS / XFR enhancement :
FABRIC CLOCK : 1866
VDDP Voltage : 1000
VDDG Voltage : 1050

It might be that your CPU doesn't like Fabric above 1800 but these values might help you. These values can be lowered later but they shouldn't hurt your system.

Even if that's the case all is not lost, you can still change the DRAM timings a lot tighter since you seem to have Samsung B-Die

good luck.

 

[Frietkot Louis]

My Aorus X570 Master motherboard had no boot after installing BIOS F10a. Had to use the Q-Flash Button and a USB-stick with F7B-bios renamed to GIGABYTE.BIN to recover. Switching to the backup BIOS 2 with setting the BIOS-SW on the motherboard to 2 was working, but BIOS 1 had to be recovered so I used the Q-Flash Button.

You can actually move the bios switch after you have entered the other bios'es menu, and then flash over the other one. Done it several times without problem and it's even described somewhere.

 

[Frietkot Louis]

I booted first with BIOS 2 and entered Q-Flash from the working BIOS. Then I changed the switch to BIOS 1 and flashed but I did not get a working BIOS for BIOS 1. So I used the Q-Flash-button.

OK, understood. Strange. Please note that I am using the single-bios mode that might be the reason. I think the q-flash button only works in dual-bios mode though.

 

[Frietkot Louis]

Guys don't you feel like guinea pigs here? I mean ok i see a ton of people not able to post with a simple sound card?

<SNIP>

The only free slot i have is the top m2 slot lol

> Guys don't you feel like guinea pigs here?
Well as long as it was testing the beta it was a choice , but I do think they should have held the official release until these problems were fixed. They were clearly communicated before that.

What a system LOL. NASA-NAS or something ?

Any reason to NOT use the top m2 slot since it is connected to the cpu and would put less load on your chipset ?

 

[Frietkot Louis]

Why BIOS bug? 1.2V is default value.

Cosmetic bug But I'll have to admit that it would be better to display 1.35V after auto when for example XMP changes the DRAM Voltage. I was confused with this as well before.

 

[Frietkot Louis]

BIOS F10a:
Biggd0gg - Asus Xonar Essence STX in pci-e x1, GTX 1080 ti. X570 Pro. CPU not mentioned. Not working.
Leongws - Asus Xonar DX in pci-e x1. GTX 1070 X570 Pro Wifi. 3700X. Not working.
Dansi - nothing in pci-e x1. GTX 1070. Board and CPU not mentioned. Not working.
Sakaana303 - Something in pci-e x1. Vega 56. Board and CPU not mentioned. Not working.
kunzjacq - Asus Essence STX in pci-e x1. GTX 1080ti. X570 Elite. CPU N/A. Not working.
hate108 - Creative SB AE-7 in pci-e x1, EVGA 2080TI. X570 Master. Ryzen 3900x F10a. Not working
1kari - avermedia live gamer hd 2 в pci-e x1, lower pci-e asus xonar d2, Msi GTX 1080 ti. x570 Master. 3700x. Not working.
Belliash - PCIE 1x: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro, PCIE 16x: GV-N166TOC-6GD, PCIE 8x: GT1030-SL-2G-BRK, X570 Elite, 3700X. Not working
Frietkot Louis - PCIE 1x :Asus Xonar Essence STX, Gigabyte 1080ti 11G, X570 Master, 3900X. Not Working

Okasha - No mention of PCI-e x1 usage. RTX 2070. X570-I-PRO-WIFI. 3700X. Working.
timOC83 - Creative X-Fi Titanium PCIE in pci-e x1. RTX2080ti. X570 Master. 2700X. Working.
Me - Nothing in pci-e x1. RTX 2080. X570 Pro Wifi. 3700X. Working.
Chucky27 - nothing in PCIe x1. GPU N/A. X570 Pro. 3700X. Working.
Buffalo2102 - Asus Xonar AE in pci-e x1. Vega 64. Board and CPU not mentioned. Working.
gurusmi - nothing in pci-e x1. RX 5700XT. X570 Master. 3800X. Working.
Silanda - X570 Elite, Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium in PCI-E x1, GTX 1080, 3700X, Working.
Fff Fff - Sound BlasterX AE-5 PCIE in pci-e x1, RTX 2080 SUPER, X570 PRO, 3900x working. But cpu-z SC dropped from 550 to540, MC from 8500 to 8350.


2 Gigabyte: WE NEED CCD/CCX overclocking, what's wrong with you? Why does MSI have this feature?
Frietkot Louis : Yes we would need it but today I noticed that a BIOS overclock to the same worst KNOWN CCX frequence and KNOWN voltage in Ryzen Master didn't POST, even when lowering the frequency below that. Seems BIOS doesn't behave the same as Ryzen Master anyway so I won't hold my breath

 

[Frietkot Louis]

There is an Orange LED light on the middle left of my Master board (I think its the bios light). Anyone know what it is and if its possible to turn it off?

Take a picture with your mobile phone with flash and you will see 2 chips, the left one soldered to the board and the right one with a mount (bigger). Left is backup BIOS and right is Primary BIOS.

[EDIT] the LED will be active on the top left of the ACTIVE BIOS. Cheers.

 

[Frietkot Louis]

My Gigabyte Master X570 has been a solid performer but I just noticed a problem. In preparing to update from F7F to F10a I ran CDM on the 1TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 internal SSD and got the following result:

I have to admit that I haven't run this test after every BIOS update but the "better" result had to be on F5k at least. What happened? I have made any significant BIOS changes since F5k. My hardware besides the X570 Master and the Sabrent SSD above is Corsair CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 memory and a GeForce RTX 2060 Super video card.

I can't find any site that recommends "tweaking" settings for PCIe 4.0 interfaces. Any help in figuring out why the fall in performance would be greatly appreciated.

(PS. Admin, sorry to double post but wanted this in X570 Aorus thread and mistakenly posted it into AMD thread first)

I suppose this is the same SSD chipset as the Corsair MP600.
For what it's worth, there are similar sequential write speeds dropping to ~1GB/s on the corsair, there's a whole thread on the corsair forum about it.
It's currently inconclusive what's causing the problem, it <seems> somewhat related to how much the drive is filled up, but people have varying results, for example fine directly after boot into windows, and bad after 10-20 minutes.
[EDIT] it *might* still be a compatibility issue between the board and the SSD Chipset.....

 

[Frietkot Louis]

Thank you all for the thoughtful replies. It does run the same firmware as the Corsair so I'll watch that thread. Thanks again.

I'll do the same dude. I'm in the same ballpark with my MP600 Good luck !

 

[Frietkot Louis]

I have removed my Xonar Essence STX soundcard (using onboard audio now) and updated to 1.0.0.4

So far so good :
- Benchmark scores have improved
- Less heat on the CPU and chipset
- All fans still working
- Read dead redemption Launcher working now (!)

Please note that I use a -0.100V negative voltage offset + HIGH LLC which has the best results on my 3900x
For gaming or economy I use per-ccd 'overclocking/overvolting & underclocking/undervolting' in Ryzen Master

 

[Frietkot Louis]

What board are you using?

X570 Master

 

[Frietkot Louis]

Just buy some quality thermal pad material like some FujiPoly at 11.0W/mK thermal conductivity to replace the crap generic 3-4 W/mK bubble gum pad material all the motherboard vendors use.

Makes a huge difference.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MQ0ITXW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Does that chipset touch the cooler ?? (sort of)

I have migrated from my 'decent' tower cooler + thermal paste to a noctua NH-12A cooler [EDIT] AND liquid metal and am getting -10c on high load (85 to 75)

So I was wondering if it's possible to make sure that the PCH cooler is REALLY connect to the chipset...

thanks