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Is aorus master as good as asus ch8?

 

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But asus ch8 has 8 layer pcb while aurous master only 6, will it lower 3950x max oc load?
How are master users enjoying the board? The last giga board i was looking into was their x79 range, looked really good on paper specs but bugged by the real world performance instability.

I do like the master heatsinks.

 

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For the past 10+ years I've built my systems using Asus boards (after a horrible experience with MSI a long time ago).

During that time - I've built one GB system for a friend - and that board recently took a nose dive with the bios being corrupted (couldn't get it to POST at all.. - even after re-flash, etc.). This was after 3.5+ years (4790k) and a relatively inexpensive (mid-range) board.

Recently - my main rig (7700k / Asus Maximus IX Code) also had posting/stability issues - wherein I could get the system to boot, but the system would completely hang after ~10-15 minutes uptime. This was after only 2.5 years being built - with custom water loop, etc.

I also have a secondary/backup system with an MSI mATX board (b350m Mortar Arctic).

Getting to your question - As others have noted - the Master, CH8, Ace are all effectively on the same "level" from a general price perspective. Even Buildzoid notes in one of his vids that of these three - you really can't go wrong with any of them and to choose the one that best fits your individual needs.

IMHO - The difference (that made me switch back to the GB Master) comes down to advanced components being introduced (in some cases - across all of these boards).

Specifically for the Master - the VRM Coolers, the 12+2 phases (with new Infineon controller chip(s)), etc. I've also heard/read several times during the various reviews online that these GB boards are also "closest to spec" with respect to supporting these new CPUs/chipset requirements.

It also easily OC's my RAM without much trouble - assuming you put the work into it (running 2x16GB Ballistix Sports ATM on a very stable 3400/15 and I've gotten the speed up to 3800 with a quick OC test).. At this point I'm waiting for additional bios updates to come in to address some of the latest noted issues (not board related).

All said - I've been running this board since launch - it certainly has it's quirks (they all do) - but the quick turnaround in support for the fan curve issues, as well as the continued updates by Matthew and this forum add to the overall value.

The overall build quality of this board is certainly very good (better than my Asus IX Code actually).

I'm happy with my purchase and (knock on wood) hope that this will end up being a solid board for years to come... Certainly recommended..

Nice writeup. Any quirks like cool boot failure? Unable to enter into low power mode on desktop while OC?
Do you do water cooling? I scan gigabyte manual, it doesnt state how many A their pump header does. Asus states clearly theirs is 3A.
Master does look to have everything too.

 

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Im sure the ESS dac is for front and back. You need it to convertor to analog audio. Where did you read it is for front only?

 

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I had an Aorus master.

Amp only works on front panel. Realtek panel only shows DAC level options when front panel is used.

Also comparing with Asus Xonar Dgx, that sounds a lot better than integrated audio.

That was one of the reasons why i returned it.

Could be panel bug.
If im right, dac options should only be selection of sample rates.
Reading specs, the headphones amp mainly for auto impedance selection, like most other manufacturers config

 

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Yes,how is the bios, any bugs like not going into idle mode, resume sleep problems as mentioned. Are the bugs amd issue, ie does asus also suffer from it?

I been thinking of the master. It has good power stage vrm but how about its chokes, inductors and capacitors? Asus rog advertised also on these items, and also 8 layer pcb

How is master voltage stability and heat? Any issues?
Or should we ignore all the fluff since ryzen3 doesn't over clock in first place. But will a better board maintains higher auto boost clock.

Decisions..

 

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Hey mattgb and all, how you rate gigabyte bios support?
Asus just pushed a new bios with microcode patches for their x99 boards! Almost 6 years of patches!

I also checked the list of bios releases for both asus and gigabyte x99 boards, Asus release almost twice the amount of new bios! Either asus firmware is bad need patching or gigabyte is not updating as often?

 

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Hey more question Matthew, how does the 6 layer pcb master do for 3950x? Asus claims their 8 layers are better to control heat than 6.
3900x seems no problem for master, how about 3950x in your internal tests?

 

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Load bios default, clean ram with eraser and put rams in slot a2/b2. And retry?
I hear ryzen 3000 is picky of ram. Maybe couldn't work with 1 stick.
I hear giga bios also have problem settings ram voltage?

 

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Hey aurous user, you mean if you shutdown and turn off mains power, the bios will reset on next use?
That seems a bad bug, wonder what is the root cause. Make no sense if it is amd issue or giga?

 

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Yes i plan to go 3600/1800 plus timings.
Anyone tried per ccx oc on gigabyte?

 

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Interesting! Are you able to enter idle voltage with per ccx oc?
One thing intel wins is you can oc as high and still enter idle voltage stages. Adaptive vcore and cstates are great on intel platform. Does x570 work the same?

 

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Hey GBT Matthew, what is the quick start guide to get Master up and running at highest performing states and bios stability?

Say turn on PBO
CPU Auto voltage,
3800 RAM at 1.35V
1600 IF ?
LLC?

Thanks

 

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Heya all, can i say ryzen master is a major pita, same with app center etc.
Wont it be better if we just tweak using the bios, csm off(since W10 is modern OS) and use hwinfo to monitor.
I never use exta apps before, too much bloat and some introduce security flaws.

 

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Hey matt, seems like 2200g won't boot on master, shows no video input, keyboard mouse don't light up.

Amd lied about compatible support, sucks...

 

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Hey Matt, seems SVM on is broken, i get random bsod.

Asus rog boards have a feature that if ram OC fail, it will still hard post to an error screen and you can enter bios to reset.
Your master dont seem to have, i need reach for clear cmos instead.

Also i could be wrong, but pci slots need to be gen3.0 for my 1080ti FE.
Letting it in auto seems to bring random issue. And the debug leds keep lighting up i noticed.

 

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Is there a settings like intel adaptive voltages? Whereby it will use stock voltages on low load and higher OC voltage on high load?

I love this feature for day to day use.

 

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Is there a way to increase max boost clocks without making it stuck at there?

I find the bios option lacking
can we disable wifi/bt, disable individual sata ports, disable individual fan headers?

While master seems impressive hardware, the bios makes me nervous, sometimes when i saved settings, it hangs i almost wanted to hard power down. Sometimes when i repeated reboot Windows, bios get locked up. I suspect the gpu pcie initialisation is buggy.

also the help text in bios is not scaling properly, sentences are cut off.

 

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Yes i also got stuck at bios with low res screen, whenever i change some bios parameter like svm, and cstates iirc. And my gpu also fail initialisation with monitor when changing bios, i had to hard turn off and on monitor.

Not sure if this is amd or gigabyte drop the ball. These basic functions of bios shouldn't happen on mature am4. Do other x570 venders suffer bugs?

Also anyone got svm working? You want 16 cores to run some virtualization yo!

 

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Does qflash need to do without cpu installed as instructed by manual. I tried it with cpu installed, press the qflash and the fans spin full speed and i see the indictor lights as expected in manual, but it just did not power down. I had to turn of mains. Luckily bios seem updated.