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Havent tried myself, but read reports that old extenders have issues with PCIE4
(Gigabyte X570 AORUS Owners Thread)
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I have one that I'm going to use with my 2080 and my fractal Define S2
I'll report back
Thanks man, I will too. I was hoping to hard tube this rig tonight, but I'm going to soft tube it first until I can test the extender with the Radeon VII.
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I'll be receiving my Aorus Xtreme later today, though I won't be able to review it for a while since Best Buy is still screwing me over on getting my 3900X to me.
If you guys want to see anything specific, I will work on that once it's up and running!
If you guys want to see anything specific, I will work on that once it's up and running!
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Load power at the wall for multiple load points with all the RGB and extra features turned off would be interesting (100, 140W default, 180W-200 PBO OC) or if you have a current clamp, at the CPU's EPS connectors. It would show how well phase shedding works with the new Infineon PWM as there's very few reasons to use all 14x 70A Powerstages on ambient at the moment.
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https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/gigabyte_x570_aorus_master_review,8.html
(X570 Master article is not up yet but see https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/motherboards/msi-prestige-x570-creation-review/7/)
That's what I've seen so far of the new PWM implementation
~95% peak efficiency on TDA21472 instead of ~93% on IR3556 should make Xtreme better a bit.
Temperature of chipset while doing intensive workload on its PCIe 4.0 M.2 drives would be nice.
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New official BIOS appears to be released F5g for the X570 Aorus Master
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios
It has the fan profiles as well as AGESA update to 1.0.0.3AB
Not sure if this is the same BIOS as the beta bios which got posted here yesterday or the day before
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios
It has the fan profiles as well as AGESA update to 1.0.0.3AB
Not sure if this is the same BIOS as the beta bios which got posted here yesterday or the day before
The F4f bios is listed on the website but doesn't seem to be downloadable for AORUS Pro Wifi X570 (atx). I flashed the F4e version posted on post#4 instead.
Here is what I noticed. I set the fan profiles (apply to all) as silent, fans are correct. I sleep the computer than wake it and it does not reapply the silent profile.
Ignore the voltage reading as that is not reading correctly. Fan reading is correct as I can hear they are much louder.
Left image is after boot, right image is wake-up after sleep
Same behaviour was observed for F4d
Here is what I noticed. I set the fan profiles (apply to all) as silent, fans are correct. I sleep the computer than wake it and it does not reapply the silent profile.
Ignore the voltage reading as that is not reading correctly. Fan reading is correct as I can hear they are much louder.
Left image is after boot, right image is wake-up after sleep
Same behaviour was observed for F4d
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What is the chipset temperature when you see the 1800RPM?
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Oh Snap!
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Releases-Linux-Zen2-Fix
Looks like a BIOS update will help with the issues Zen2 has on rolling-release Linux distros, specifically the systemd version that fights with rdrand! Hopefully this makes its way through the wickets rather quickly... I'd like to game on my system this weekend
@GBT-MatthewH
@AlphaC
Also, AlphaC, do you like Fedora? Do you use it for gaming? I've never really tried it and I'm curious about it since it seems to have good release cycle with pretty up-to-date packages / kernels. What do you think?
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Releases-Linux-Zen2-Fix
Looks like a BIOS update will help with the issues Zen2 has on rolling-release Linux distros, specifically the systemd version that fights with rdrand! Hopefully this makes its way through the wickets rather quickly... I'd like to game on my system this weekend
@GBT-MatthewH
@AlphaC
Also, AlphaC, do you like Fedora? Do you use it for gaming? I've never really tried it and I'm curious about it since it seems to have good release cycle with pretty up-to-date packages / kernels. What do you think?
Fedora is amazing. Steam install with no issues. So does the Nvidia driver. The AMD open source graphics drivers should be improving rapidly and be included in the kernel. They support alot of different desktop environments, so you have alot of options. The package manager is intuitive and easy to use. 'dnf update' also updates the kernel along with your entire package list.
Fedora got rid of grub and it now makes a seperate boot option, which is a plus in my book. Ive had windows updates totally brick my grub setup in the past.
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Kind of offtopic so spoiler
Fedora ships with a newer kernel at the moment than Ubuntu/Mint/Debian. However you can backport the kernel to Ubuntu LTS.
Linux isn't a priority for any vendor right now, so you need to do your due diligence at the component level similar to people making Hackintosh PCs. For example, proprietary custom Realtek LAN or Killer LAN is something you want to avoid. You would also want to avoid overly complex USB hub situations and any PCIE splitting that involves a obscure PLX chip. Anything you need a special driver for in Windows is something that is a liability to break in Linux and the more bleeding edge it is the less likely it is to supported out of the box.
Having 2 SuperIO chips to provide added sensors and fan headers is sometimes problematic for monitoring , but there are workarounds for it since the two main companies are ITE and Nuvoton.
The dev groeck gave up supporting IT87 for Linux (see https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=IT87-Linux-Driver-Axing) but it's mirrored around the Internet such as here https://github.com/a1wong/it87 and https://github.com/rpavlik/it87
k10temp works regardless (the CPU temp).
By the way this is one reason to set fan curved in BIOs and to have good power delivery. Monitoring in Linux isn't always on point other than CPU+GPU temp.
(One of the nice things about the Aorus RGB is once you turn it off in BIOs it's off even in Linux (or if you make it a pattern or a static color it keeps that but I don't bother since it's extra glare if you put your PC atop a desk and extra power use). I haven't seen much in terms of people developing for the RGB SDK found here https://www.gigabyte.com/mb/rgb/sdk)
I don't think Fedora is technically suited for gaming, Ubuntu 18.04LTS is more suited for consumer-facing applications such as gaming. In fact Steam play apps usually recommend Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and Navi's AMD drivers officially support Ubuntu 18.04 LTS only. Typically when you see the pro variant pushed out (Radeon Pro / Quadro / EPYC / Threadripper / Ryzen Pro / Xeon) the product is truly out-of-the-box ready for the public and validated for stable use.
edit: also pay attention to IOMMU grouping if you are using GPU passthrough. Level1techs usually covers this well : https://level1techs.com/article/ryzen-3000-radeon-5700-xt-ready-linux
More on topic :
the X570 Master ICs
Intel 1G LAN
Realtek ALC1220-VB for audio , ESS ES9018K2M DAC
P13EQX ReDriver for USB 3.1 gen 2
Realtek RTS5441 for USB 3.1 gen 2 type C
P13EQX16 ReDriver for PCIE 4.0
IDT6V4 for BCLK modification
IT8688E SuperIO (also used on Z390 Aorus Master)
IT8795E SuperIO (Same as X399 Gaming 7 , X299 Gaming 7)
https://news.xfastest.com/review/review-03/66825/gigabyte-x570-aorus-master/
Linux isn't a priority for any vendor right now, so you need to do your due diligence at the component level similar to people making Hackintosh PCs. For example, proprietary custom Realtek LAN or Killer LAN is something you want to avoid. You would also want to avoid overly complex USB hub situations and any PCIE splitting that involves a obscure PLX chip. Anything you need a special driver for in Windows is something that is a liability to break in Linux and the more bleeding edge it is the less likely it is to supported out of the box.
Having 2 SuperIO chips to provide added sensors and fan headers is sometimes problematic for monitoring , but there are workarounds for it since the two main companies are ITE and Nuvoton.
The dev groeck gave up supporting IT87 for Linux (see https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=IT87-Linux-Driver-Axing) but it's mirrored around the Internet such as here https://github.com/a1wong/it87 and https://github.com/rpavlik/it87
k10temp works regardless (the CPU temp).
By the way this is one reason to set fan curved in BIOs and to have good power delivery. Monitoring in Linux isn't always on point other than CPU+GPU temp.
(One of the nice things about the Aorus RGB is once you turn it off in BIOs it's off even in Linux (or if you make it a pattern or a static color it keeps that but I don't bother since it's extra glare if you put your PC atop a desk and extra power use). I haven't seen much in terms of people developing for the RGB SDK found here https://www.gigabyte.com/mb/rgb/sdk)
I don't think Fedora is technically suited for gaming, Ubuntu 18.04LTS is more suited for consumer-facing applications such as gaming. In fact Steam play apps usually recommend Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and Navi's AMD drivers officially support Ubuntu 18.04 LTS only. Typically when you see the pro variant pushed out (Radeon Pro / Quadro / EPYC / Threadripper / Ryzen Pro / Xeon) the product is truly out-of-the-box ready for the public and validated for stable use.
edit: also pay attention to IOMMU grouping if you are using GPU passthrough. Level1techs usually covers this well : https://level1techs.com/article/ryzen-3000-radeon-5700-xt-ready-linux
More on topic :
the X570 Master ICs
Intel 1G LAN
Realtek ALC1220-VB for audio , ESS ES9018K2M DAC
P13EQX ReDriver for USB 3.1 gen 2
Realtek RTS5441 for USB 3.1 gen 2 type C
P13EQX16 ReDriver for PCIE 4.0
IDT6V4 for BCLK modification
IT8688E SuperIO (also used on Z390 Aorus Master)
IT8795E SuperIO (Same as X399 Gaming 7 , X299 Gaming 7)
https://news.xfastest.com/review/review-03/66825/gigabyte-x570-aorus-master/
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Ah yeah def OT, my bad!
I was on Xubuntu LTS for a while but I keep gravitating back to Manjaro so I think that's the one I'll be sticking to. I seem to have the best luck with it and I like how easy to use it can be, and how powerful and flexible it can be if you want to really dive in. I'm not as familiar with pamac, but I'm happy to learn and it's really just a matter of using it and becoming more familiar with it.
For gaming I love that Steam is ultra easy to install, getting wine, dxvk, winetricks, etc set up is really easy. Games run great on it and since it's rolling (yet still pretty dang stable) I can get the most out of my Vega 64 and the open source driver stack. Pretty excellent for a worry-free setup!
OT: I'm excited to see the newest BIOS versions so I can get muh Linux back up and running! @GBT-MatthewH your presence here and super helpful attitude are greatly appreciated! It's nice to be back on a Gigabyte motherboard after a short trip to Asus for Ryzen Gen 1!
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Ok,I loaded up the board and a 3900x along with
the fractal design riser for my 2080 and no issues
was playing fc4 with no issues so far
although,I just got it up and running about 2 hrs ago.lol
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Your support in this thread pushed me to purchase a Gigabyte board, thank you.
Thanks for the update! I hear ya bro, I just got mine booted now, LOL! Boots no problem, now i just need to familiarize myself with this BIOS, flash the thing, and get an OS installed.
EDIT: so far the Radeon VII hasn't shown any issues with the riser that came with my TT Core P3 white edition. But I haven't done much yet, just some Time Spy runs, OCCT, etc.
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