[Aenra]

It's still supposed to work. Let's not make excuses

No one's making excuses; you're just being.. a bit immature (don't get offended please) and/or perhaps merely succumbing to wishful thinking.

Sure, everything should work perfectly, sure, everything needed should be included, etc. etc. I don't discard the theory.
But now welcome yourself to reality, where nothing -is- perfect and where, even if everything's included? It's not intended for you. Rather, it is intended for a mainstream user and/or the stingy "enthusiast" that expects millisecond perfection with 585762352 extra dials and functions from an integrated mini controller with no extra cost or heat dissipation; one that fits in mere millimeters of mobo space at that... because 'muh rights'.

You want extra bells and whistles, you want fan revolutions fine-tuning above and beyond the.. average, you pay for them. Just like everywhere else.
Or you post here about all the problems you have, your call. Just don't include me in juvenile pseudo-philosophical/ethically-oriented discussions, not the forum for those. I mentioned facts, you're always free to discard them. And as to facts?

The three most common issues, by far, with mobos are:
i) integrated cards (sound or visual)
ii) integrated wireless solutions
iii) fan powering and controlling.
For over a decade now.

So smell that coffee, or stay here and complain about why, in a capitalist system, nothing's perfect, but in fact profit-driven... surprise.. but really, do.
In the meantime, i'll do something with my fully functioning system if that's O.K.

(life.. we deal with it as it is, not as we'd have wanted it to be. It being why i implored you not get offended. You don't always have to like it; but you do have to acknowledge it)

 

[Ziyan]

It seems there's still an issue with Gigabyte's RGB Fusion software. I'm running 3600/CL16 B-dies (Trident Z RGB) on Aorus Elite, bios F5a, and while having RGB Fusion installed, at each restart or cold boot, the RAM frequency goes to 2133 - gotta re-enable XMP, save and go (until next restart). As soon as I've removed RGB Fusion the issue was gone.

I have the same issue with F7a on Master, and the latest RGB Fusion (B19.0905.1). I should note that I didn't have this issue before updating BIOS from F5n, and RGB Fusion from the previous version. Unfortunately, I can't tell which one is causing the issue.

 

[BlueFllame]

To recap my sound issues:

When my Sehnheiser headphones with a 3.5 mm jack are plugged in the back of the board, I get a loud buzzing sound in the right headphone when I'm playing a game.

When they're plugged in the front, the noise is less loud and it's in the left headphone.

I don't remember exactly when these issues started, but I'm pretty sure they weren't there in the beginning. I think it might be from the most recent windows cumulative update, but I supposedly uninstalled it and the issue didn't go away.

Is anyone else experiencing something similar?

 

[Elrick]

The three most common issues, by far, with mobos are:
i) integrated cards (sound or visual)
ii) integrated wireless solutions
iii) fan powering and controlling.
For over a decade now.

That is why I have gotten rid or NOT ever used any Wifi solutions at all, cable connections throughout the household is still here even during 2019 and beyond.

Onboard sound still works if used with Redmond's original sound file for Optical Connections (Spdif) to my external DAC.

Have switched everything over to an external Fan Controller, have given up using any Asus, Gigabyte and MSI's pwm fan controls (utterly useless and ineffective).

Suspect this type of setup won't change this year or the next hence you cope the best you can for the money already wasted on this abysmal hardware, that has less control over it's own resources than ever before. Still refuse to go back to the Intel Camp, I'm already in deep with AMD and it's uncooperative crew of idiots and fools (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, etc).

 

[rastaviper]

What is wrong with F5a bios at Elite??

No problems with F4 for keeping my 3600x at 1.32v with no manual ocing and my 3200 G.skill at 3660 16-15-15-1T at 1.37v.

After upgrading and loading the same settings, I can't even have the pc boot. After powering up it shuts down.
I have to totally remove power cable and restore bios settings to enter to bios.

Bios is supposed to get better, not worse..

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk

 

[Molano]

Hey Guys,

I've been having trouble with my Aorus x570 Pro motherboard / memory combination and i'm wondering if anyone ran into the same issues. I see a lot of people with issues getting ram stable and i have the same trouble, however whatever i try it doesn't seem to help.

First of all, i have the Aorus x570 pro, with a 3700x and i had G.Skill Trident Z F4-4133C19D-16GTZKWC. This memory wasn't stable at XMP, or any other speed than the standard JDEC speed. I returned the memory thinking it was bad and got back G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3600C16D-16GVK. These are on the QVL list so i hoped this would work without issue. They are not stable at any overclock either.

They are in de A2 / B2 slots. I tried applying the XMP profile with the voltage at 1,35 manually and it's not stable.I get loads of soft errors. Especially adobe premiere exporting results in errors at any speed except 2133. But GTA5 or even minecraft crash occasionally too at non stock speeds.

I've tried all the Bios's that are available on the Gigabyte website. The latest bios (f6a) gives me BSOD's randomly whatever i do. On F5 the system seems stable on JDEC, but nothing above. Same with the other bios's.

I tried the DRAM calculator safe settings for my memory and it's just as unstable. I tried upping the voltage to 1,45 on XMP as well which doesn't help. The memory doesn't run very hot either, it's at 33 / 37 degrees celcius.

Last night i've done a complete reinstall of windows to troubleshoot and right now all i have installed is the drivers for my GPU and i installed premiere and minecraft. I also disconnected all devices except monitor and input. It seems to be stable on optimized defaults right now, however as soon as i load the xmp i get soft crashes again. No BSOD's or anything, just applications crashing within 20 minutes when stressing the system a bit.

CPU temps aren't very high either. Max 60 degrees.

When i go back to defaults it seems to be stable again.

Are there any other voltages or settings i could play with? I tried putting the command rate to 2t, tried enabling gear down and played around with ProcODT, but nothing seems to work.

 

[panni]

What is wrong with F5a bios at Elite??

No problems with F4 for keeping my 3600x at 1.32v with no manual ocing and my 3200 G.skill at 3660 16-15-15-1T at 1.37v.

After upgrading and loading the same settings, I can't even have the pc boot. After powering up it shuts down.
I have to totally remove power cable and restore bios settings to enter to bios.

Bios is supposed to get better, not worse..

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk

You're complaining about the instability of the BIOS after switching from stable to beta. Really dude?

Edit: pardon me. I didn't realize they actually released it officially. That's a bummer.

 

[Jocke42]

@GBT-MatthewH
Hi Matthew, at first thanks for all the support you are giving, you rock.
Can you maybe help us with this boot priority issue? Looks like there's at least 4 of us (I am quoting others below, however I am not sure about Hyralak's problem, it may be different thing), who has problems with boot priority. For x570 master problem appeared in F6, generally I think its since adding "Fix compatibility of SATA hot plug and RAIDXpert2 setting"

To visualize Im attaching 2 pictures with most basic setup - 2 different SATA disks only. Boot priority only shows one, random.

In my case I have 6 disks, boot priority only lists one random disk and it never shows disk which I really want to boot , no matter how I connect disks to SATA ports. I am unable to enter "Hard drive BBS priorities". All of my boot disks are CSM-compatible.

Hi Guys
I needed to register because I needed to add my impressions/problems to the discussion.
I have a Elite and recently moved from F4j to F5A with the same effects as above. All of a sudden I can not configure the boot order anymore. Having a DVDrom and 2 additional disks, my NVMe disc has been pushed out of the boot list and - just as with others here in the thread - I cannot access the 'HDD BBS Priority' anymore. Luckily I can boot to my system with the F12-boot menu.

I really don't want to return to F4j because I need the newly fixed feature of SATA hot plug also...

You're complaining about the instability of the BIOS after switching from stable to beta. Really dude?

Edit: pardon me. I didn't realize they actually released it officially. That's a bummer.

Don't blame yourself. I realized that Gigabyte list the F5A as a official Bios while Aorus.com does not (F4 is the latest there). I suspect Gigabyte put a beta into their DL section......

 

[pschorr1123]

Hey Guys,

I've been having trouble with my Aorus x570 Pro motherboard / memory combination and i'm wondering if anyone ran into the same issues. I see a lot of people with issues getting ram stable and i have the same trouble, however whatever i try it doesn't seem to help.

First of all, i have the Aorus x570 pro, with a 3700x and i had G.Skill Trident Z F4-4133C19D-16GTZKWC. This memory wasn't stable at XMP, or any other speed than the standard JDEC speed. I returned the memory thinking it was bad and got back G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3600C16D-16GVK. These are on the QVL list so i hoped this would work without issue. They are not stable at any overclock either.

They are in de A2 / B2 slots. I tried applying the XMP profile with the voltage at 1,35 manually and it's not stable.I get loads of soft errors. Especially adobe premiere exporting results in errors at any speed except 2133. But GTA5 or even minecraft crash occasionally too at non stock speeds.

I've tried all the Bios's that are available on the Gigabyte website. The latest bios (f6a) gives me BSOD's randomly whatever i do. On F5 the system seems stable on JDEC, but nothing above. Same with the other bios's.

I tried the DRAM calculator safe settings for my memory and it's just as unstable. I tried upping the voltage to 1,45 on XMP as well which doesn't help. The memory doesn't run very hot either, it's at 33 / 37 degrees celcius.

Last night i've done a complete reinstall of windows to troubleshoot and right now all i have installed is the drivers for my GPU and i installed premiere and minecraft. I also disconnected all devices except monitor and input. It seems to be stable on optimized defaults right now, however as soon as i load the xmp i get soft crashes again. No BSOD's or anything, just applications crashing within 20 minutes when stressing the system a bi


CPU temps aren't very high either. Max 60 degrees.

When i go back to defaults it seems to be stable again.

Are there any other voltages or settings i could play with? I tried putting the command rate to 2t, tried enabling gear down and played around with ProcODT, but nothing seems to work.

Hello, since we have the exact same memory kit so may be able to get stable with my timings. Also be sure to enter every single ram setting manually. Do not leave any set to auto as they have a tendency to change every boot.

Before you try anything though test 1 stick at a time to see if you have a hardware issue.
load xmp with only 1 stick also test each slot on mainboard ( a couple users have had hardware defects with the actual memory slot on board)

download ramtest hcl from:https://hcidesign.com/memtest/

you can learn how to use memtest hcl and test ddr4 stability here: https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-...-ryzen-ddr4-24-7-memory-stability-thread.html

The 2nd picture is tweaked timings that have proven stable for me so far. These B-die kits can easily do 3600 cl 16 all day long on Ryzen 3rd gen

You may have better luck lowering your ProcODT I have mine @ 53.3 but you can try 48 or lower

report back after testing each stick and slot individually and we can go from there as you will likely find that if you only populate 1 slot your pc will run fine

 

[drmrlordx]

No one's making excuses; you're just being.. a bit immature (don't get offended please) and/or perhaps merely succumbing to wishful thinking.

Heh. Right.

You want extra bells and whistles, you want fan revolutions fine-tuning above and beyond the.. average, you pay for them. Just like everywhere else.

Uh, some of these boards are expensive. We did pay for them. Are you going to make excuses for Gigabyte when something fails on a $370 motherboard? How about a $700 motherboard? Good grief.

ii) integrated wireless solutions

The specific wireless solution with which I have problems is causing problems to numerous users, including those who have not gotten them integrated as a part of a motherboard. The last motherboard I had - ASRock X370 Taichi - had integrated wireless that "just worked". It was a bit slow, but it was functional. Intel's AX200 is buggy and causes headaches. A fun example!

https://forums.intel.com/s/question/0D50P00004QgMYGSA3/intel-ax200-brechung-bei-5ghz?language=en_US

Of course Intel doesn't want to support the product on their forums if you installed it in a PC via PCIe adapter or installed it into a laptop into which it was not originally integrated. They also don't want to support it if you're in the fast ring and have the latest available-only-for-fast-ring-users driver that - surprise! - is provided by Intel. I guess MS is supposed to support that driver? In any case, Gigabyte had no choice but to use the AX200 if they wanted 802.11ax because it's the only one available that I can tell.

iii) fan powering and controlling.

Again, the chipset fan can't be linked to an external controller. Not without some major surgery anyway. That's what is an issue for many of the users in this thread. Mercifully, I do not have problems with mine. It seems to be more of an issue on the cheaper boards (surprise, surprise).

So smell that coffee

That won't make the current UEFI revision actually boot from my 970 Evo without me having to go into the boot menu every. Single. Time. Seriously, what's with you?

 

[Molano]

Hello, since we have the exact same memory kit so may be able to get stable with my timings. Also be sure to enter every single ram setting manually. Do not leave any set to auto as they have a tendency to change every boot.

Before you try anything though test 1 stick at a time to see if you have a hardware issue.
load xmp with only 1 stick also test each slot on mainboard ( a couple users have had hardware defects with the actual memory slot on board)

download ramtest hcl from:https://hcidesign.com/memtest/

you can learn how to use memtest hcl and test ddr4 stability here: https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-...-ryzen-ddr4-24-7-memory-stability-thread.html

The 2nd picture is tweaked timings that have proven stable for me so far. These B-die kits can easily do 3600 cl 16 all day long on Ryzen 3rd gen

You may have better luck lowering your ProcODT I have mine @ 53.3 but you can try 48 or lower

report back after testing each stick and slot individually and we can go from there as you will likely find that if you only populate 1 slot your pc will run fine

Thank you so much for the reply! The first set of memory i had i tried with only 1 bank, and it was stable. Also with xmp loaded. The new set i tried before and it wasn't stable. I am running the ramtest on 1 bank now.

The thing that surprises me looking at your ryzen master screenshot though is your voltages are higher than mine. Here's my ryzen master with the bios at default except for XMP and DDR voltage to 1,35. Also the CAD bus drive strength is way different.

Should i try changing these voltages to your values? Do you have the same board (x570 pro)? I am on the f5 bios btw.

 

[pschorr1123]

Thank you so much for the reply! The first set of memory i had i tried with only 1 bank, and it was stable. Also with xmp loaded. The new set i tried before and it wasn't stable. I am running the ramtest on 1 bank now.

The thing that surprises me looking at your ryzen master screenshot though is your voltages are higher than mine. Here's my ryzen master with the bios at default except for XMP and DDR voltage to 1,35. Also the CAD bus drive strength is way different.

Should i try changing these voltages to your values? Do you have the same board (x570 pro)? I am on the f5 bios btw.

I set my ddr voltage @ 1.375 since that is where I had it with my 2700X 3200 14,14,14,28, 42. This kit is a slight down bin than the 3200 cl 14 flare x kit. Not too important

the cab bus strength @ 120 is a bit odd. On this board and my previous X370 the default was 24,24,24,24

That's weird since we have the exact same memory kit

If I were you I would match that and see how that goes.

edit: looking @ your screen shots set rtt park to RZQ/5 (48 but the bios options are /4, /5, /7, etc)

also your on die termination just says Hi impedance set to 53.3

edit: I am on the master but the timings do not vary from board to board. Do not really worry about matching my voltages as your setup may need a bit more or less. You can dial that in once you get your system semi stable with the basic XMP 3600 profile which I have not seen any 3rd gen Ryzen fail to run (IMC is on the CPU not motherboard)

 

[Molano]

I set my ddr voltage @ 1.375 since that is where I had it with my 2700X 3200 14,14,14,28, 42. This kit is a slight down bin than the 3200 cl 14 flare x kit. Not too important

the cab bus strength @ 120 is a bit odd. On this board and my previous X370 the default was 24,24,24,24

That's weird since we have the exact same memory kit

If I were you I would match that and see how that goes.

edit: looking @ your screen shots set rtt park to RZQ/5 (48 but the bios options are /4, /5, /7, etc)

also your on die termination just says Hi impedance set to 53.3

Do you use Ryzen Master to set these timings? So far I've only tried doing it in the BIOS.

 

[pschorr1123]

Do you use Ryzen Master to set these timings? So far I've only tried doing it in the BIOS.

No, you need to set in bios. In fact I have read others have overclocked or set pbo via Ryzen Master and it over wrote the settings in bios and messed things up

 

[pschorr1123]

Do you use Ryzen Master to set these timings? So far I've only tried doing it in the BIOS.

Make sure you write them down or take a screen shot on another device as the timings in bios are not in same order as Ryzen Master. It takes me about 10-15 minutes to enter each one in manually

 

[Roboionator]

helo, anyone has a solution, every time i start my computer it rewrites my bios from backup bios and i have everything default, Uf than go to bios and change nothing, just save, reboot and all work again, disturbing,..i have just ram on XPM and fans on PWM.... bios F7a, master,..to turn off dual bios? thx

 

[panni]

Thank you so much for the reply! The first set of memory i had i tried with only 1 bank, and it was stable. Also with xmp loaded. The new set i tried before and it wasn't stable. I am running the ramtest on 1 bank now.

The thing that surprises me looking at your ryzen master screenshot though is your voltages are higher than mine. Here's my ryzen master with the bios at default except for XMP and DDR voltage to 1,35. Also the CAD bus drive strength is way different.

Should i try changing these voltages to your values? Do you have the same board (x570 pro)? I am on the f5 bios btw.

One thing I'm noticing here: my Pro sets VDDG and P to 1050mV if not told otherwise. Your VDDP is lower than that. Maybe try setting them both to 1050mV. With that and 1.4V on VRAM (Micron E-Die in my case), 3600 should be easy with XMP defaults.

 

[panni]

helo, anyone has a solution, every time i start my computer it rewrites my bios from backup bios and i have everything default, Uf than go to bios and change nothing, just save, reboot and all work again, disturbing,..i have just ram on XPM and fans on PWM.... bios F7a, master,..to turn off dual bios? thx

Try setting memory voltage to 1.36V (your XMP voltage +0.1V)

 

[Molano]

One thing I'm noticing here: my Pro sets VDDG and P to 1050mV if not told otherwise. Your VDDP is lower than that. Maybe try setting them both to 1050mV. With that and 1.4V on VRAM (Micron E-Die in my case), 3600 should be easy with XMP defaults.

I'm looking around my BIOS and can't really find those settings. I can set most of the timings fine, but the voltages puzzle me.

As far as timings go the only thing that i left on auto is:
tCWL
tRFC4 (didn't see it mentioned in RM)
tRCPAGE
tCKE
AddrCmdSetup
CsOdtSetup
CkeSetup

I can't put those on 0 like it showed in the screenshot of Ryzen Master.

For voltages i have the following options:

CPU Vcore
Dynamic Vcore
VCORE SOC
Dynamic VCORE SOC
CPU VDD18
CPU VDDP
PM_CLDO12
PM_1VSOC
PM_1v8
DRAM Voltage (1.37)
DDRVPP Voltage
DRAM Termination

I can only change the CPU VDDP value by + or - numbers, i can't set a value... I don't know what to change for the VDDG... Could you tell me which settings you changed from default on your board? Right now the only thing i changed is in the memory timings and the DRAM Voltage to 1.37...

 

[Molano]

I set my ddr voltage @ 1.375 since that is where I had it with my 2700X 3200 14,14,14,28, 42. This kit is a slight down bin than the 3200 cl 14 flare x kit. Not too important

the cab bus strength @ 120 is a bit odd. On this board and my previous X370 the default was 24,24,24,24

That's weird since we have the exact same memory kit

If I were you I would match that and see how that goes.

edit: looking @ your screen shots set rtt park to RZQ/5 (48 but the bios options are /4, /5, /7, etc)

also your on die termination just says Hi impedance set to 53.3

edit: I am on the master but the timings do not vary from board to board. Do not really worry about matching my voltages as your setup may need a bit more or less. You can dial that in once you get your system semi stable with the basic XMP 3600 profile which I have not seen any 3rd gen Ryzen fail to run (IMC is on the CPU not motherboard)

Reading your edit now. The thing is, the memory is "semi-stable" at nearly anything i try. I just keep getting soft crashes. Exporting in Premiere is the quickest to crash generally (within a few seconds when starting the export usually on XMP). On regular timings it's fine. But GTA 5 and minecraft get random crashes as well after usually about 20 minutes or so of playing. But i don't generally get BSOD's or anything.

I have just put in your numbers except for a few (see previous post), and it's looking good so far . I'm not holding my breath just yet but so far it's stable exporting in Adobe i'll leave the memtest running tonight to check it tomorrow.

The thing is though, i just don't understand what the problem is with the XMP profile. Why does it make the system so unstable. Also, i've put in loads of different numbers from the DRAM calculator (3600 fast, 3600 safe, 3200 safe etc) and nothing seemed to work there either. The only thing i don't thing i experimented with is the cab strength.

Edit:
Never mind, it started crashing again.

My ryzen master now: