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Oh hey! Same boat! All this lovely hardware, with no cpu to put in it.
(Gigabyte X570 AORUS Owners Thread)
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Should we make our own thread about it? I also purchased the Extreme a few days ago. Should arrive Tuesday July 16th, 2019
I think I'm going to wait for the 3950X. That'll be perfect to gather up some money to off-set the balance due.
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I've got my xtreme already, just find it really, really dumb that when I purchased the 3900x, it was listed as in stock. Never changed from that status until it went to unavailable. Shipping status never updates past "we'll let you know when it ships!", so I call BB support Wednesday and they're like "!?!?!? whatchu mean you're upset it hasn't shipped yet, it's a pre-order and we're working on getting more stock!"
I'm actively looking at other sites for when they restock.
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BIOS chip size
It seems the Aorus Master only has a 16 MB BIOS chip, while most other brands are going for 32 MB.
At the x370 and x470 level everyone is making a big fuss about this limitation. MSI even has to create a light BIOS.
Will this be a problem for the gigabyte boards - mid to long term?
It seems the Aorus Master only has a 16 MB BIOS chip, while most other brands are going for 32 MB.
At the x370 and x470 level everyone is making a big fuss about this limitation. MSI even has to create a light BIOS.
Will this be a problem for the gigabyte boards - mid to long term?
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That sucks.
I have a Micro Center nearby with 10+ 3900X in stock. In-store pickup only.
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And you haven't cancelled your BB order on the 3900x yet?
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I did some research and it looks like it's 128MB vs 256MB BIOS chip, not 16 vs 32
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And you haven't cancelled your BB order on the 3900x yet?
Wait, what? I said I have a Gigabyte X570 Extreme in transit arriving on July 16th, 2019, and that I'm waiting for the 3950x to come out in Sept. I have no CPU for the system yet, nor have I ordered one online. The CPU will be the last thing I pick up for it. I'm piecing together a new platform (MB, CPU, RAM) and I'm also going to include a PCIe 4.0 NVME drive. I'm upgrading from X58
What's a "BB order" ?
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Oh hell, i misread the name, though you were this guy below, and BB is Best Buy.
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It is 128 Megabit or 16 Megabyte. This is exactly the same.
And the difference is between 128/16 or 256/32.
The low end is 128/16 and this seems to be what GB choose to use.
So my question still stands: will this be a problem in the long run?
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My mistake, As it stands, no-
All of my rumors suggest AM4 is done after the Ryzen 4000 series of CPUs.
That means compatibility will only need to be added for a few more CPUs. My understanding is plenty of 300 and 400 mobos' BIOS updates have dropped support for Bristol Ridge entirely, and X570 boards don't have support for Ryzen 1000 series chips either. There's definitely enough headroom for the 4000 series CPUs to be added, in my opinion. Worst-case scenario, a future BIOS update will drop Ryzen 2000 support and it will be a situation where you'll choose whether to stay on Legacy BIOS or keep up-to-date with no processors.
https://www.aorus.com/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10#pd_spec
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I had thought about creating an Aorus Xtreme thread yesterday morning at work lol. I'll work on it today.
I got my Aorus Xtreme yesterday so I busted out the lightbox and went to work.
Here are some shots so far. So bummed I don't have my 3900X yet..
Absolutely love this board. There's definitely a conversation to be had about how much they're asking for this thing. But based on many reviewers with the most experience so far with this new platform, they have all claimed that the better the board, the better experience you'll have dealing with Ryzen 3000. Plus Buildzoid gave this board the title of "best X570 board". Can't wait to dive into this thing and get to tweaking.
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Why did you go with XTREME and not the MASTER? Seems like such a heavy premium to pay, unless you got money to burn and don't really care about the price. I currently have a ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO and I want to upgrade to a 3900X and I'm wondering if I should get a X570 board. From what I read the MASTER seems to be one of the best X570 boards out there currently.
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It IS the best X570 board and an impressive engineering feat at the same time when you consider time to market (March 2019 the PWM was announced publicly, board launched July so time to market < 4 months including development testing + validation time). Look at the ASUS and MSI flagships. What do they give you? More of the same stuff as the other boards without the new PWM or the fan-less thermal solution.
Sure it's expensive but if you want the best flagship board there really isn't a contest IMO and right now everyone buying is paying early adopter tax.
* The ROG Formula is an overpriced Hero with an OLED and VRM block on it which is pointless on ambient especially when they have a radial fan in their chipset heatsink. For a $700 flagship they put a 5G LAN instead of 10G LAN. Also it doesn't have 3x M.2 slots (one of the main purposes of PCIE 4.0) when boards half the price have it such as the MSI X570 Ace, Aorus Ultra, and Asrock X570 Taichi. Power delivery-wise if you buy a Formula you're gambling that ASUS magically made their 7 phases "twin" able to compete with a 14 phase PWM and higher specced powerstages in terms of maximum efficiency. It's not physically possible and the new PWM waveform is most likely half the pulse width of the one on ROG Formula. Even if you WERE looking at the Formula I really can't see a reason why a ROG fanboy would buy this over a Hero and a full cover monoblock. For $300 you can definitely get yourself a 10G LAN + waterblock.
* The MSI Godlike has way fewer USB ports than it should have even if it is the same VRM powerstages and it doesn't have the new PWM so 14 phases vs 14 phases from 7 phases doubled is no contest when you look at that. Also unless you plan on using the gimmicky wifi extender or OLED display you're basically paying for a PCIE NvMe daughterboard and an external 10G LAN solution which is way less tidy than the X570 Creation in their own lineup at $500. The fact that you will have 2 PCIE cards consuming your PCIE slots if you buy Godlike makes the Creation a better board within MSI's lineup. As far as I am aware the Godlike doesn't come with a thermal backplate. MSI probably isn't running a 240mm AIO promo out of charity, it's probably to avoid looking bad by early price drop or massive rebates.
* The Asrock Aqua only has 999 for sale and costs $999 so it's not really a contender : the power delivery is way cheaper. Basically you're paying $500 extra within Asrock's lineup for exclusivity and a chipset waterblock when you can buy their Creator board if & when that comes out which will also have Thunderbolt + 10G LAN.
To top it off the sheer amount of metal on the Xtreme (even IO shield) should convince people it's worth it over the ROG Formula / MSI Godlike. All of that stuff needs tooling and assembly. It's a board that covers nearly everything in metal. For something as niche as RGB : there's an RGB commander in the box too.
If you look at the TAM (total addressable market) , the Aorus team achieved something really great with Aorus Xtreme. Look at how many people will use their boards for LN2 on regular basis: maybe 0.1% if generous? How many people that are creators (video/audio/design/engineering) using 12-16 core Ryzens will want a completely fanless solution with 3x M.2 that won't be using open loop water? Probably at least 33% if they can afford it or pull it out of company expenses (Aorus Xtreme production lines would likely ramp up before the September R9 3950X launch). Noctua NH-U14S TR4 and Coolermaster Wraithripper are sold for TR4 after all and that's not even including closed loop coolers. I bet if the Aorus Xtreme starts to slow down in sales , the Aorus marketing planners can have a bundle with the 8TB Aorus PCIE 4.0 NvMe drive (or the 2TB PCIE 4.0 with copper heatsink if they can figure out how to fit it on the existing heatsinks) for slight cost reduction: that's not something any other vendor can do right now (since other than Corsair nobody else really makes PCIE 4.0 speed SSDs currently). In actuality the PCIE 4.0 NvMe drive is using a 28nm Phison E16 controller which is why heat remains a concern (9W of heat) until the next generation uses the E19 on 12nm. Due to use of Toshiba's BiCS4-TLC , endurance and sustained write has yet to be seen: that is the main appeal of a 970 Pro over 970 Evo.
I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been more press coverage on the Xtreme, probably it wasn't a sampled board and stock levels are extremely scarce. I also expect once the Infineon PWM proves its superiority it will trickle down to upper midrange $260-300 boards in the future chipsets as production costs drop, This is especially true when you consider the Aorus Master is $360.
A lot of the Gigabyte focus has been on the Master, since it has the same Infineon power delivery at a better price. But that chipset fan though, ugh. Love that Xtreme though, so much sexier. I almost regret not getting that now just because of that silly fan, but I didn't want to spend the extra money.
I was looking for cheap X570 Aorus Elite fit my budget but I look at VRM info and 16MB rom, I steer this.:thumbsdow
I have MSI X470 with 16MB and GSE-Lite.
I learned something new about VRM and rom size, I am sure you have seen those links below.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...IVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818 :specool:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...fiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true :thumb:
I have MSI X470 with 16MB and GSE-Lite
.I learned something new about VRM and rom size, I am sure you have seen those links below.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...IVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818 :specool:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...fiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true :thumb:
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The VRM on the Elite is very powerful for its price bracket, very similar to the Asrock Taichi at a hundred bucks more. Nothing to worry about there.
Don't let the arbitrary tier rating on that list fool you.
On the BIOS ROM side we at least know that Gigabytes BIOS isn't chock full of pretty pictures like MSIs so i doubt we will run into that same issue any time soon.
Don't let the arbitrary tier rating on that list fool you.
On the BIOS ROM side we at least know that Gigabytes BIOS isn't chock full of pretty pictures like MSIs so i doubt we will run into that same issue any time soon.
Thanks that did fix it, but I’m beginning to think I have a dud, XMP causes instability even though the RAM is on the list of compatible ones on the gigabyte site (I haven’t yet manually set voltage as has been suggested on this thread though), then after disabling XMP and installing the nvidia driver and some gigabyte drivers, Windows went into a reboot loop and refuses to start up. Beginning to regret straying from ASUS.
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try increasing CAS latency by 1
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