I had thought about creating an Aorus Xtreme thread yesterday morning at work lol. I'll work on it today.
I got my Aorus Xtreme yesterday so I busted out the lightbox and went to work.
Here are some shots so far. So bummed I don't have my 3900X yet..
Absolutely love this board. There's definitely a conversation to be had about how much they're asking for this thing. But based on many reviewers with the most experience so far with this new platform, they have all claimed that the better the board, the better experience you'll have dealing with Ryzen 3000. Plus Buildzoid gave this board the title of "best X570 board". Can't wait to dive into this thing and get to tweaking.
the best X570 board and an impressive engineering feat at the same time when you consider time to market (March 2019 the PWM was announced publicly, board launched July so time to market < 4 months including development testing + validation time). Look at the ASUS and MSI flagships. What do they give you? More of the same stuff as the other boards without the new PWM or the fan-less thermal solution.
Sure it's expensive but if you want the best flagship board there really isn't a contest IMO and right now everyone buying is paying early adopter tax.
* The ROG Formula is an overpriced Hero with an OLED and VRM block on it which is pointless on ambient especially when they have a radial fan in their chipset heatsink. For a $700 flagship they put a 5G LAN instead of 10G LAN. Also it doesn't have 3x M.2 slots (one of the main purposes of PCIE 4.0) when boards half the price have it such as the MSI X570 Ace, Aorus Ultra, and Asrock X570 Taichi. Power delivery-wise if you buy a Formula you're gambling that ASUS magically made their 7 phases "twin" able to compete with a 14 phase PWM and higher specced powerstages in terms of maximum efficiency. It's not physically possible and the new PWM waveform is most likely half the pulse width of the one on ROG Formula. Even if you WERE looking at the Formula I really can't see a reason why a ROG fanboy would buy this over a Hero and a full cover monoblock. For $300 you can definitely get yourself a 10G LAN + waterblock.
* The MSI Godlike has way fewer USB ports than it should have even if it is the same VRM powerstages and it doesn't have the new PWM so 14 phases vs 14 phases from 7 phases doubled
is no contest when you look at that. Also unless you plan on using the gimmicky wifi extender or OLED display you're basically paying for a PCIE NvMe daughterboard and an external 10G LAN solution which is way less tidy than the X570 Creation in their own lineup at $500. The fact that you will have 2 PCIE cards consuming your PCIE slots if you buy Godlike makes the Creation a better board within MSI's lineup. As far as I am aware the Godlike doesn't come with a thermal backplate. MSI probably isn't running a 240mm AIO promo out of charity, it's probably to avoid looking bad by early price drop or massive rebates.
* The Asrock Aqua only has 999 for sale and costs $999 so it's not really a contender : the power delivery is way cheaper. Basically you're paying $500 extra within Asrock's lineup for exclusivity and a chipset waterblock when you can buy their Creator board if & when that comes out which will also have Thunderbolt + 10G LAN.
To top it off the sheer amount of metal on the Xtreme (even IO shield) should convince people it's worth it over the ROG Formula / MSI Godlike. All of that stuff needs tooling and assembly. It's a board that covers nearly everything in metal. For something as niche as RGB : there's an RGB commander in the box too.
If you look at the TAM (total addressable market) , the Aorus team achieved something really great with Aorus Xtreme. Look at how many people will use their boards for LN2 on regular basis: maybe 0.1% if generous? How many people that are creators (video/audio/design/engineering) using 12-16 core Ryzens will want a completely fanless solution with 3x M.2 that won't be using open loop water? Probably at least 33% if they can afford it or pull it out of company expenses (Aorus Xtreme production lines would likely ramp up before the September R9 3950X launch). Noctua NH-U14S TR4 and Coolermaster Wraithripper are sold for TR4 after all and that's not even including closed loop coolers. I bet if the Aorus Xtreme starts to slow down in sales , the Aorus marketing planners can have a bundle with the 8TB Aorus PCIE 4.0 NvMe drive (or the 2TB PCIE 4.0 with copper heatsink if they can figure out how to fit it on the existing heatsinks)
for slight cost reduction: that's not something any other vendor can do right now (since other than Corsair nobody else really makes PCIE 4.0 speed SSDs currently). In actuality the PCIE 4.0 NvMe drive is using a 28nm Phison E16 controller which is why heat remains a concern (9W of heat) until the next generation uses the E19 on 12nm. Due to use of Toshiba's BiCS4-TLC , endurance and sustained write has yet to be seen: that is the main appeal of a 970 Pro over 970 Evo.
I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been more press coverage on the Xtreme, probably it wasn't a sampled board and stock levels are extremely scarce. I also expect once the Infineon PWM proves its superiority it will trickle down to upper midrange $260-300 boards in the future chipsets as production costs drop, This is especially true when you consider the Aorus Master is $360.