[Billy McDowell]

Could someone upload a overclocking video of what there settings are with an aorus xtreme and a 3900x. I have mine running 4.3ghz on all cores but i would like to see how others are having theirs as well since i am learning still.

 

[GBT-MatthewH]

@GBT-MatthewH .. all my downclock, downvolt, boost problems were *magically* solved after i installed a AIO, instead of the stock cooler...
The CPU now downclocks, downvolts, and boosts properly (up to 4.5ghz) .. as a added bonus it doesnt sound like a jet trying to take off, and the temperatures are much better


EDIT: Spoke too soon, my ram was set to auto with XMP ... it looks like if you clock the RAM manually (i have it running at 3600MHZ CL14, the CPU doesnt downvolt, or downclock properly..()

I will check. I would assume if it downclocks on XMP it should with manual settings as well, but let me see what our team says.

I assume this is with IF 1:1 set @ 1800, yes?

Edit: Can you tell me the settings you change for manual, the kit of memory, CPU, BIOS version, and board. Thanks!

 

[OCmember]

What kind of aftermarket heatsinks work on AM4? I have an old Megahalems that I'm still using on my X58 rig, will that work?

 

[Nighthog]

Will be getting the Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME after all with some issues with not getting delivery of some other parts I had tried to get earlier had to cancel those and try elsewhere and went with this overkill out of anger as it was in stock at least.

Will be pairing it with a Ryzen 7 3800X and putting it down under water with and try some 4x8Gb Micron E-die on it. Hope it works out and I really do hope the 3800X are better bin than the 3700X are.

 

[Bart]

GBT-MatthewH: is there a recommended method of voltage monitoring on these X570 boards? My CPU seems to be getting loads of volts, even after loading optimized defaults in the BIOS. I'm seeing spikes over 1.5v on the Aorus Master with a 3900X.

 

[kamil234]

I will check. I would assume if it downclocks on XMP it should with manual settings as well, but let me see what our team says.

I assume this is with IF 1:1 set @ 1800, yes?

Edit: Can you tell me the settings you change for manual, the kit of memory, CPU, BIOS version, and board. Thanks!

@GBT-MatthewH

Do you want me to send you any log files? If not here you go:

CPU : 3900X
Cooler: AIO EVGA 280mm CLC
Memory kit: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2X8GB) Model F4-3200C14D-16GVK
BIOS Version: F4f
Board: AORUS Elite

Setting im changing:

XMP: From "disable" to "Profile1"
DRAM Multipler: from 32.00 to 36.00 (3600mhz)
DRAM voltage: from 1.35v -> 1.45v
Geardown mode: Enabled
Command rate: 1T

Following memory presets: (from DRAM Calcluator)

Everything else auto/normal/stock (not changed) .. So IF should be 'auto' but i can confirm via software its 1:1 (1800mhz)

Im checking the clocks and voltages with CPU-Z, AIDA64, or HWInfo64

 

[Heuchler]

In case anyone was wondering, the PCIE 4.0 Aorus NvME drive does fit on the ITx board with the chipset fan heatsink


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIsv-Efv_Hs

Very good video. Pretty nutty times when a ITX board has a better VRM than most full size ATX boards. Wendell also noted that a Aorus Master review will be coming out soon.


"We tested the Gigabyte Aorus Master (A+) and the Taichi X570 for launch. We will have full reviews of those up in the next few days"
https://www.level1techs.com/article/ryzen-3000-navi-megathread




"My experience with the 3900x was somewhat different. For the 3900X, which is a beastly 12-core chip, I was finally able to achieve 4.5ghz all-core overclock stable (even for AVX workloads!) at 1.45v with a manual overclock and a lot of fiddling. PBO, Ryzen Master and UEFI settings to enable Overclocking in Precision Boost Overdrive + Auto Overclock didn’t really do quite as well, but I would occasionally see clocks of about 4.55ghz from the 3900X with everything opened up and PBO enabled"

 

[AlphaC]

What kind of aftermarket heatsinks work on AM4? I have an old Megahalems that I'm still using on my X58 rig, will that work?

Some of the top $50-60ish picks are the 6 heatpipe coolers such as Scythe Mugen 5 rev B , Thermalright ARO-M14G (aka Thermalright Macho) , and Noctua NH-U14S (built after 2019).

I don't know if Megahelems has a bracket for AM4 , I doubt it. Thermalright and Scythe did release brackets.

For older scythe coolers: http://www.scythe-eu.com/no_cache/e...tibility-and-announces-am4-mounting-kits.html

http://thermalright.com/2017/02/21/thermalright-amd-am4-cpu-mount-upgrade/
"coolers manufactured after January 1, 2017 come with upgraded AM4 mounting kits."



https://noctua.at/en/noctua-cpu-coolers-now-include-am4-mounting-at-no-extra-cost
"Noctua today announced that all of its current multi-socket desktop CPU coolers, such as the popular NH-D15, NH-U14S and NH-U12S, now also include installation hardware for the AM4 socket of AMD’s Ryzen processors. Although Noctua introduced its dedicated SE-AM4 models in early 2017 and has provided free-of-charge upgrade kits ever since the launch of the AM4 platform, the updates of the existing multi-socket models now allow customers to install them on all current mainstream sockets without ordering extra mounting kits. As suggested retail prices remain unchanged, the updates come at no extra cost to the customers."

 

[gogx]

Same for me on the Elite, when i set xmp 3600cl16 the cpu doesnt boost anny more and the temps are like 10c higher. Without it boosts like it should and doesnd go past 65c

 

[shadowxaero]

Now that I have had my X570 Master and 3900X for a few days; I have a couple of questions mainly PBO behavior since that's all I have bothered to test as of now.

Any Ram/infinity clock under 3600mhz, I see boosts of up to 4.3 -4.55ghz on various cores (only tested 3200/3533 with 1600/1767 infinity clock). When I 3600/3733mhz with 1800/1867 Infinity Clock the cpu only seems to boost to a max of 4.25ghz; but seems to mostly maintain it on all of the cores. Now I am somewhat confused by all of this... PBO is an interesting beast. Coming from 8700K (5.2ghz)/9900K (5.1ghz) this is just far different; my last real run with Ryzen was a 1700 at launch.

Now, games play well on this CPU minus BFV which seems to have quite a few hiccups while playing. Just grasping for some info is all; most of my changes were only toward power limits in the PBO settings while I left most things on auto since I feel rather lost with settings right now.

I can confirm the same. I had this issue on my Aorus Master and I am still having it on the Extreme.

 

[GBT-MatthewH]

GBT-MatthewH: is there a recommended method of voltage monitoring on these X570 boards? My CPU seems to be getting loads of volts, even after loading optimized defaults in the BIOS. I'm seeing spikes over 1.5v on the Aorus Master with a 3900X.

According to AMD you should use Ryzen Master or CPU-Z until they figure out what's going on.

 

[GBT-MatthewH]

I can confirm the same. I had this issue on my Aorus Master and I am still having it on the Extreme.

Spoiler

This video should explain alot. For now I would recommend you just keep PBO off as there is no gain and possibly higher power consumption (True for all X570, not GIGABYTE specific).

 

[kittinzaa]

Anyone having problem with ram overclocking with Gig X570?
If I oc ram even a little bit outside of XMP value(like 3200 to 3400) and turn off pc and unplug the next boot will take very long and boot into bios reset(this happen everytime if I touch the ram settings)
but the settings will work fine if just reset but not power off working fine all day pass memtest but if the poweroff bios will boot into reset.

Already saw some people on OCUK having this same issue
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/gigabyte-x570-aorus-pro-bios-resetting.18859692/

 

[Nopileus]

Anyone having problem with ram overclocking with Gig X570?
If I oc ram even a little bit outside of XMP value(like 3200 to 3400) and turn off pc and unplug the next boot will take very and boot into bios reset(this happen everytime if I touch the ram settings)
but the settings will work fine if just reset but not power off working fine all day pass memtest but if the poweroff bios will boot into reset.

Already saw some people on OCUK having this same issue
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/gigabyte-x570-aorus-pro-bios-resetting.18859692/

Sounds like you are physically turning off the power to the PSU?
In that case it will initiate memory training on the next startup, i'm guessing your chosen timings just don't consistently pass memory training.

Also make sure your memory voltage is actually set, just chosing XMP doesn't seem to apply voltage (usually 1.35v for XMP).

I've gotten my Crucial 3000mhz CL15 kit up to 3600 CL16 with relative ease, though sadly it doesn't seem like i can push this kit any further.

 

[kittinzaa]

Sounds like you are physically turning off the power to the PSU?
In that case it will initiate memory training on the next startup, i'm guessing your chosen timings just don't consistently pass memory training.

Also make sure your memory voltage is actually set, just chosing XMP doesn't seem to apply voltage (usually 1.35v for XMP).

I've gotten my Crucial 3000mhz CL15 kit up to 3600 CL16 with relative ease, though sadly it doesn't seem like i can push this kit any further.

not sure what are you talking about I could boot and even run memtest for a couple hour use like normal without any error .
If I turn off pc but power still feed to the board it will still remember the settings and could boot into oced memory.
the problems only happen on cold boot when the mainboard is completely turn off

not sure how memory training is work on this chipset but I have been overclock since forever never saw somethings like this the syntom is almost like when CMOS battery is runout so it lost the setting if power out.

 

[Nopileus]

What you are describing is definitely the behavior you get when memory training fails.
The screen stays black, the fans will ramp up for 30-60 seconds and then it will start into the bios reset screen.

This is the expected behavior of Gigabytes BIOS after it fails to POST a few times.

We've had a few guys in this thread with memory issues because the memory voltage was still at its default of 1.20v, so i suggest checking that.
Also make sure the memory is in slots A2 and B2.

 

[kittinzaa]

What you are describing is definitely the behavior you get when memory training fails.
The screen stays black, the fans will ramp up for 30-60 seconds and then it will start into the bios reset screen.

This is the expected behavior of Gigabytes BIOS after it fails to POST a few times.

We've had a few guys in this thread with memory issues because the memory voltage was still at its default of 1.20v, so i suggest checking that.
Also make sure the memory is in slots A2 and B2.

yup the symtops is just like what you said
but still I dont understand why the first time I oc and click save and reboot it could boot into that settings or as many times as I want
until cold boot it will not remember the settings

 

[Nighthog]

There are various issues with cold booting with regard to MEM OC on Ryzen I've noted. Even Gen1 and B350/X470. It's usually board specific in how it shows in various ways with the same cpu sample.

It looks like the IMC likes it better warm rather than cold and that causes issues. Characteristics change after a cold start to having it run hot under stress for a long while. Usually settling to be more "stable" hot but then on a cold boot causing a whole lot of chaos the next day or hours later shut down to cool down.
So you can't run on the edge like you would like for warm/cold situations as one might be stable in one but unstable in the other which usually shows with boot issues.
You can try various settings to mitigate the issue but sometimes you have to give up on trying at times or you become utterly mad from trying.

 

[kittinzaa]

There are various issues with cold booting with regard to MEM OC on Ryzen I've noted. Even Gen1 and B350/X470. It's usually board specific in how it shows in various ways with the same cpu sample.

It looks like the IMC likes it better warm rather than cold and that causes issues. Characteristics change after a cold start to having it run hot under stress for a long while. Usually settling to be more "stable" hot but then on a cold boot causing a whole lot of chaos the next day or hours later shut down to cool down.
So you can't run on the edge like you would like for warm/cold situations as one might be stable in one but unstable in the other which usually shows with boot issues.
You can try various settings to mitigate the issue but sometimes you have to give up on trying at times or you become utterly mad from trying.

I'm serching "ryzen oc ram cold boot" and what you said seem to be true many people seem to experience this even on the previous gen.
I decided to go with XMP 3200 too much headache and seem to be a waste of time also a bit disappoint coming from Intel.

I belive and sure I didn't set anythings wrong it just not cold boot that is.

 

[shadowxaero]

Spoiler

PBO Tested by GN

This video should explain alot. For now I would recommend you just keep PBO off as there is no gain and possibly higher power consumption (True for all X570, not GIGABYTE specific).

My issue is present regardless of whether or not PBO is enabled or disabled. If I OC my RAM any higher than 3566 or the Infinity Fabric higher than 1767 the CPU gets stuck in the 4.25ish GHz range. It doesn't downclock or boost when this happens.