[mickeykool]

Anyone experience getting cpu exchanged from Micro-center? I went to swap out CPU cooler and the cpu was stuck on the heatsink when i pulled it off. Bent some pins but I was able to bend them back but still can't get it to "seat" in the socket. So I'm gonna take my chances and take it back for exchange since its less then a week old.

 

[Heuchler]

Anyone experience getting cpu exchanged from Micro-center? I went to swap out CPU cooler and the cpu was stuck on the heatsink when i pulled it off. Bent some pins but I was able to bend them back but still can't get it to "seat" in the socket. So I'm gonna take my chances and take it back for exchange since its less then a week old.

Should never swap a cooler without heating it up first. Bonus if you have the computer running before hand you also know it was working before changing any thing.


Keith from wccftech

 

[Heuchler]

The rumor mill site wccftech reviewed it as well and had the same note about missing post code / debug LED:
https://wccftech.com/review/amd-ryz...pu-review-x570-aorus-pro-wifi-motherboard/11/


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Also for the PCH , the Aorus Master heatsink seems fine and on par with MSI Ace


https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-x570-aorus-master-atx-motherboard,6227-3.html
Tom's hardware has an unusual con: Steel back cover adds a pound of unused heft


Apparently they didn't notice it cools the power delivery.

Tech journalist using Intel's PCH term when talking about AMD chipsets tends to make me want to stop reading the article right there.
I was thinking about linking the wccftech review about Arous Pro, very positive review, but couldn't because the silliness about missing POST code
when it has debug LEDs, which unless you have all the POST codes memorized are much more useful. Seems like after Buildzoid complained about it
that everybody needs it and CLR BIOS, Power and Reset buttons. My last three high end boards all have those features and after the first day
I never have touched them again.

Love the fact that nobody has pointed out how completely useless the "MSI's Boost knob which goes all the way up to 11" on
MSI MEG X570 Godlike and ACE are.


"A closer look reveals an extra switche to disable dual-BIOS mode, but hardcore overclockers would rather not have the board’s active selection process in the specs sheet"
under Final Thoughts on Tom's Hardware Review (above Cons: Steel back cover adds a pound of unused heft and Only four SATA ports available when third M.2 is occupied).


Before Ryzen 1000-series launched some people made claims about knowing clock speeds.

[Feb 26, 2017] AMD Ryzen 8 Core, 6 Core and 4 Core CPUs Will Clock Up To 4.40 GHz Using MSI’s Game Boost Feature
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-processors-overclock-frequency-bundles/

 

[GBT-MatthewH]

@ GBT Matthew or anyone else with the answer

This is my 1st Gigabyte board so I am unfamiliar with some of Gigabyte's features or terminology.

On the Tweaker page under XMP profile there is an option that says XMP High Frequency Support with options Auto, level 1, level 2, and level 3 what is this?

Those are quick FCLK adjustments. AUTO will be half your memory speed, up to 1800. Level 1 = FCLK 1600, Level 2 = FCLK 1700, Level 3 = FCLK 1800

 

[dansi]

Is aorus master as good as asus ch8?

 

[Streetdragon]

Is aorus master as good as asus ch8?

They are on the same level.
But Master has wifi onboard and a real heatsink for the vrm

How much Voltage can we push to the VDDG? Saw 1040mV are stock for the IF.

 

[dansi]

But asus ch8 has 8 layer pcb while aurous master only 6, will it lower 3950x max oc load?
How are master users enjoying the board? The last giga board i was looking into was their x79 range, looked really good on paper specs but bugged by the real world performance instability.

I do like the master heatsinks.

 

[jsgiv]

But asus ch8 has 8 layer pcb while aurous master only 6, will it lower 3950x max oc load?
How are master users enjoying the board? The last giga board i was looking into was their x79 range, looked really good on paper specs but bugged by the real world performance instability.

I do like the master heatsinks.

For the past 10+ years I've built my systems using Asus boards (after a horrible experience with MSI a long time ago).

During that time - I've built one GB system for a friend - and that board recently took a nose dive with the bios being corrupted (couldn't get it to POST at all.. - even after re-flash, etc.). This was after 3.5+ years (4790k) and a relatively inexpensive (mid-range) board.

Recently - my main rig (7700k / Asus Maximus IX Code) also had posting/stability issues - wherein I could get the system to boot, but the system would completely hang after ~10-15 minutes uptime. This was after only 2.5 years being built - with custom water loop, etc.

I also have a secondary/backup system with an MSI mATX board (b350m Mortar Arctic).

Getting to your question - As others have noted - the Master, CH8, Ace are all effectively on the same "level" from a general price perspective. Even Buildzoid notes in one of his vids that of these three - you really can't go wrong with any of them and to choose the one that best fits your individual needs.

IMHO - The difference (that made me switch back to the GB Master) comes down to advanced components being introduced (in some cases - across all of these boards).

Specifically for the Master - the VRM Coolers, the 12+2 phases (with new Infineon controller chip(s)), etc. I've also heard/read several times during the various reviews online that these GB boards are also "closest to spec" with respect to supporting these new CPUs/chipset requirements.

It also easily OC's my RAM without much trouble - assuming you put the work into it (running 2x16GB Ballistix Sports ATM on a very stable 3400/15 and I've gotten the speed up to 3800 with a quick OC test).. At this point I'm waiting for additional bios updates to come in to address some of the latest noted issues (not board related).

All said - I've been running this board since launch - it certainly has it's quirks (they all do) - but the quick turnaround in support for the fan curve issues, as well as the continued updates by Matthew and this forum add to the overall value.

The overall build quality of this board is certainly very good (better than my Asus IX Code actually).

I'm happy with my purchase and (knock on wood) hope that this will end up being a solid board for years to come... Certainly recommended..

 

[JMattes]

Microcenter by me finally for the Ryzen gear back in stock and I am torn as to which Mobo I should get.

They don't have the Elite which is the one I originally wanted.. I reserved the Ultra for $300, but saw they have the Master for $370 and was wondering if the $70 more was really worth it.. I am getting a 3700x and don't see a reason to overclock everything like crazy.. maybe just put on the turbo settings.

Thoughts?

 

[THUMPer1]

Microcenter by me finally for the Ryzen gear back in stock and I am torn as to which Mobo I should get.

They don't have the Elite which is the one I originally wanted.. I reserved the Ultra for $300, but saw they have the Master for $370 and was wondering if the $70 more was really worth it.. I am getting a 3700x and don't see a reason to overclock everything like crazy.. maybe just put on the turbo settings.

Thoughts?

The Master is the cheapest board that comes with Debug LED, and Clear CMOS button. I mean the cheapest as in, the Ultra at $300 doesn't have any of those features. I was really eyeing the Elite for my 3800x, but I really want Debug LED and Clear CMOS button. So I'm not sure what to do. The Master is pretty beefy in comparison to the Ultra or Elite.

 

[JMattes]

The Master is the cheapest board that comes with Debug LED, and Clear CMOS button. I mean the cheapest as in, the Ultra at $300 doesn't have any of those features. I was really eyeing the Elite for my 3800x, but I really want Debug LED and Clear CMOS button. So I'm not sure what to do. The Master is pretty beefy in comparison to the Ultra or Elite.

I haven't had a need for a debug led since my very first build and even then it wasn't a huge benefit. I would have to search what a clear cmos button does.. outside of those two features, I think the vrm is a little better and has a thermal back plate? I can see the $70 being spent if I was using the 3900x, but i think I am already overkill for a 3700x that wont be on water.. no?

 

[dansi]

For the past 10+ years I've built my systems using Asus boards (after a horrible experience with MSI a long time ago).

During that time - I've built one GB system for a friend - and that board recently took a nose dive with the bios being corrupted (couldn't get it to POST at all.. - even after re-flash, etc.). This was after 3.5+ years (4790k) and a relatively inexpensive (mid-range) board.

Recently - my main rig (7700k / Asus Maximus IX Code) also had posting/stability issues - wherein I could get the system to boot, but the system would completely hang after ~10-15 minutes uptime. This was after only 2.5 years being built - with custom water loop, etc.

I also have a secondary/backup system with an MSI mATX board (b350m Mortar Arctic).

Getting to your question - As others have noted - the Master, CH8, Ace are all effectively on the same "level" from a general price perspective. Even Buildzoid notes in one of his vids that of these three - you really can't go wrong with any of them and to choose the one that best fits your individual needs.

IMHO - The difference (that made me switch back to the GB Master) comes down to advanced components being introduced (in some cases - across all of these boards).

Specifically for the Master - the VRM Coolers, the 12+2 phases (with new Infineon controller chip(s)), etc. I've also heard/read several times during the various reviews online that these GB boards are also "closest to spec" with respect to supporting these new CPUs/chipset requirements.

It also easily OC's my RAM without much trouble - assuming you put the work into it (running 2x16GB Ballistix Sports ATM on a very stable 3400/15 and I've gotten the speed up to 3800 with a quick OC test).. At this point I'm waiting for additional bios updates to come in to address some of the latest noted issues (not board related).

All said - I've been running this board since launch - it certainly has it's quirks (they all do) - but the quick turnaround in support for the fan curve issues, as well as the continued updates by Matthew and this forum add to the overall value.

The overall build quality of this board is certainly very good (better than my Asus IX Code actually).

I'm happy with my purchase and (knock on wood) hope that this will end up being a solid board for years to come... Certainly recommended..

Nice writeup. Any quirks like cool boot failure? Unable to enter into low power mode on desktop while OC?
Do you do water cooling? I scan gigabyte manual, it doesnt state how many A their pump header does. Asus states clearly theirs is 3A.
Master does look to have everything too.

 

[Streetdragon]

played a bit in the bios with voltage (Auto/normal) PBO and XFR
Now less Heat, lower voltage and less Powerusage with more performence for free:

 

[pschorr1123]

I haven't had a need for a debug led since my very first build and even then it wasn't a huge benefit. I would have to search what a clear cmos button does.. outside of those two features, I think the vrm is a little better and has a thermal back plate? I can see the $70 being spent if I was using the 3900x, but i think I am already overkill for a 3700x that wont be on water.. no?

I chose the Master over the elite for my 3700X because of the dual bios and the extra switch which disables Gigabyte's auto Bios management and allows you to choose which bios you boot into.

More on that can be found on Buildzoids Aorus x570 Master Review.

Coming from an x370 board that lacked dual bios or even a flashback soc option the extra insurance for peace of mind was worth the extra expense for me especially seeing how often bios rollout with bug improvements, etc

 

[kamil234]

Well, my CPU downclocks correctly using ryzen master (any other software shows 3.4ghz minimum speed).. however idle voltages still stay very high (1.4v idle at -.1v offset, if i have no XMP / overclock on RAM it goes down to 0.2v idle)

 

[jsgiv]

Nice writeup. Any quirks like cool boot failure? Unable to enter into low power mode on desktop while OC?
Do you do water cooling? I scan gigabyte manual, it doesnt state how many A their pump header does. Asus states clearly theirs is 3A.
Master does look to have everything too.

Yes I custom WC'd my last rig - but am currently running the stock prism cooler. I plan to WC this one as well - just have to get an AM4 compatible water block.

Haven't looked at the pump header details yet - looks like there's at least 2 but not sure of the Amp ratings as you've noted.

 

[JMattes]

I chose the Master over the elite for my 3700X because of the dual bios and the extra switch which disables Gigabyte's auto Bios management and allows you to choose which bios you boot into.

More on that can be found on Buildzoids Aorus x570 Master Review.

Coming from an x370 board that lacked dual bios or even a flashback soc option the extra insurance for peace of mind was worth the extra expense for me especially seeing how often bios rollout with bug improvements, etc

I searched for buildzoid and watched his Ultra review, very technical. I couldn't for the life of me find his Master review. Mind sharing a link?

 

[jsgiv]

I searched for buildzoid and watched his Ultra review, very technical. I couldn't for the life of me find his Master review. Mind sharing a link?

 

[YpsiNine]

I searched for buildzoid and watched his Ultra review, very technical. I couldn't for the life of me find his Master review. Mind sharing a link?

The poster above me posted the video link but for your information, buildzoid sometimes does his motherboard videos for Gamers Nexus. So you will find some of them there and not on his own channel like in this case with the Master.

 

[Moparman]

Well with no stock on 12core i picked up a 3600 to get by until the 16 core comes.