Aorus Extreme comes without a fan
... and will be extremely expensive, unfortunately.
Aorus Extreme comes without a fan
The Master has a Direct PWM setup, the Hero is using 7 phases with doubled up powerstages. If you aren't using LN2 (nobody does for a daily system, let's be realistic), provided the BIOS isn't completely buggy (it shouldn't be), then the 12-14 phases from the Infineon PWM on Gigabyte's Aorus Master or Xtreme will give you better ripple and allow you to shut off phases more granularity when not in use (i.e. achieving peak efficiency across the power delivery spectrum all the way down to idle).
Additionally the backplate on the Master is thermally conductive to the VRM section, whereas all you get on the Hero is a small brace at the back.
50A IR3556 has the same footprint as the 60A IR3555 so the main difference is maximum amperage rating. Even threadripper TR 2950X used around max 350W on ambient , so power quality is of more importance once you exceed 10 powerstages.
Also if you fail overclocks on memory the Aorus boards down to the Aorus Pro have dual BIOS, with Master/Xtreme having a switch. The single BIOS (SB) switch is invaluable since it physically isolates the BIOS chips. If you get hit with malware (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-implements-new-certificate-structure,39072.html , https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/...-push-software-into-your-windows-installation) or a flash a corrupt BIOS you don't need to RMA your board. I don't think that has been stated enough, since a corrupt BIOs on a non dual BIOS board has to still rely on flashing from USB. There were plenty of people that needed to RMA their Crosshair boards because the "Crashfree BIOS" or "BIOS flashback" doesn't work.
In terms of usability the M.2 heatshields being separate also makes it less of a hassle and the Hero only comes with 2x M.2.
In terms of integrated audio the Master is also stronger spec-wise, it uses ESS 9118 instead of ESS 9023P , has WIMA caps, and the audio codec is ALC1220-VB rather than ALC1220.
Every Master board comes with WIFI 6 +BT whereas the Hero has it as an option.
nano-carbon coating with 3X thermal conductivity for the base plate [win for Captain AORUS in my book].Captain Aorus ***? Way better than captain marvel^^
The Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master lives up to its name as well as the effort that Gigabyte have put into their new power phase arrangement by pushing the Ryzen 9 3900X to 4.35 GHz on all twelve cores. Given that 4 GHz was pretty impressive not that long ago, and the Threadripper CPUs struggled to overclock too far, it shows what a boon the 7nm process can be for AMD with high core counts. We have achieved 4.4ghz on other boards so it will be interesting to see how this may affect performance and how it places in the graphs.
https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-review/7/ --- used as test board to hit 4.3GHzOverclocking with 1.4V pushed the Ryzen 9 3900X very close to the throttling point with our Corsair H100X AIO. 4250MHz was the highest stable frequency that we could manage. 4300MHz was bootable and held Windows stability, however, Cinebench and Blender tests would throw up unusual errors.
Our manual overclocking (R7 3700x) experience was practically identical to that of the 3900X, though this time we were less thermally limited. 1.4V delivered 4.3GHz with the same unusual behaviour, while 4.25GHz allowed for complete stability. We managed to decrease the voltage further while maintaining stability.
https://tweakers.net/reviews/7192/1...l-van-de-troon-ipc-en-opgenomen-vermogen.html --- X570 Master test board pushed R9 3900X to 4.4GHz all coresWe did manage to squeeze some PBO testing in, though, which increased the all-core boost from 4GHz out of the box to 4.125GHz using PBO and 4.15GHz by dialling a 200MHz uplift to the Automatic Overclocking feature - still lower than our manual overclock of 4.3GHz, but all while keeping the slightly higher maximum boost frequency. We didn't really see any activity beyond the latter (4.4GHz), though admittedly we didn't tweak any power limits, so gamers would likely want to stick to stock speed or make use of PBO and Automatic Overclocking, while content creators should consider dialling in a manual overclock.
4 sticks 3733 isnt a problem. I can do 4x4000 with XMP, 2x4266 with XMP. Those are the only kits I have tried thus far. 4x3733 should be a cake walk.ahh still dont know if i sould go for the Master(because of the 3.0 Front USB ports)
or for the Asus Hero, because i think the Bios COULD be better and MAYBE a bit better RAM OC (4 Sticks 3733)
NDA is up so lets talk!
3 sticks 3733 isnt a problem. I can do 4x4000 with XMP, 2x4266 with XMP. Those are the only kits I have tried thus far. 4x3733 should be a cake walk.
Couldn't make up my mind up between Ryzen 7 3700X or Ryzen 9 3900X (now both out-of-stock). Let the F5 spamming game begin.
great job on Aorus Review Round-up. SUPER rep AlphaC
That's good to hear, it's really quite annoying at the current noise level- I'd love it if there was a setting to turn it off completely as long as temperatures were decent enough, I'd rather buy a slightly larger, quieter fan and just aim it directly at the chipset, if possibleWe can tune the chipset fan curve, let me talk to our guys.
Please, please expose SYSFAN3 / PCH in SmartFan 5, or give us BIOS control for it. My X570 Aorus Master's chipset fan is running at 4300 rpm constantly (chipset temp 57c) and the high pitch noise is driving me crazy. I'm nearly at the point of returning the board and dropping back to X470. I can't stand it.We can tune the chipset fan curve, let me talk to our guys.
I hear y'all, I will work on it.Please, please expose SYSFAN3 / PCH in SmartFan 5, or give us BIOS control for it. My X570 Aorus Master's chipset fan is running at 4300 rpm constantly (chipset temp 57c) and the high pitch noise is driving me crazy. I'm nearly at the point of returning the board and dropping back to X470. I can't stand it.