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Future Xtreme owner reporting in as well. Haven't pre-ordered yet (amazon US doesn't have it available yet, or I haven't been able to find it) but will be purchasing this weekend along with the 3900X. Tempted to hold off until Silicon Lottery releases pricing for their binned procs but still feel very confident the first wave of procs will all overclock quite well so I might just send it and see how I can do myself overclocking it. I was able to get my 1920X to 4.225ghz on all 12 cores/24 threads.

For reference, I will be replacing my Threadripper 1920X and Zenith Extreme for them which is this build:

 

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The Master has a Direct PWM setup, the Hero is using 7 phases with doubled up powerstages. If you aren't using LN2 (nobody does for a daily system, let's be realistic), provided the BIOS isn't completely buggy (it shouldn't be), then the 12-14 phases from the Infineon PWM on Gigabyte's Aorus Master or Xtreme will give you better ripple and allow you to shut off phases more granularity when not in use (i.e. achieving peak efficiency across the power delivery spectrum all the way down to idle).



Additionally the backplate on the Master is thermally conductive to the VRM section, whereas all you get on the Hero is a small brace at the back.


50A IR3556 has the same footprint as the 60A IR3555 so the main difference is maximum amperage rating. Even threadripper TR 2950X used around max 350W on ambient , so power quality is of more importance once you exceed 10 powerstages.

Also if you fail overclocks on memory the Aorus boards down to the Aorus Pro have dual BIOS, with Master/Xtreme having a switch. The single BIOS (SB) switch is invaluable since it physically isolates the BIOS chips. If you get hit with malware (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-implements-new-certificate-structure,39072.html , https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/...-push-software-into-your-windows-installation) or a flash a corrupt BIOS you don't need to RMA your board. I don't think that has been stated enough, since a corrupt BIOs on a non dual BIOS board has to still rely on flashing from USB. There were plenty of people that needed to RMA their Crosshair boards because the "Crashfree BIOS" or "BIOS flashback" doesn't work.

In terms of usability the M.2 heatshields being separate also makes it less of a hassle and the Hero only comes with 2x M.2.

In terms of integrated audio the Master is also stronger spec-wise, it uses ESS 9118 instead of ESS 9023P , has WIMA caps, and the audio codec is ALC1220-VB rather than ALC1220.

Every Master board comes with WIFI 6 +BT whereas the Hero has it as an option.

Great analysis. Totally missed that WIMA caps part (German film capacitors that audiophile community loves). Pretty excited about this board.
 

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Captain AORUS [LOL]




Xtreme Power Design for 16+ Cores
 

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Captain Aorus ***? Way better than captain marvel^^
 

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Captain Aorus ***? Way better than captain marvel^^
nano-carbon coating with 3X thermal conductivity for the base plate [win for Captain AORUS in my book].
Maybe just stick one or two 40x40 mm copper water blocks on that back plate. Could save me from having
to buy a monoblock. What did Captain Marvel do for me lately ?



What is the difference between carbon nanotubes and graphene?

Carbon Nanotubes are cylindrically rolled sheets of graphene. Graphene is a single atomic layer of crystalline graphite and enlisted as a 2D material and CNT can be thought of as a rolled sheet of graphene in a hexagonal lattice of carbon geometry.

Graphene Coated CPU Cooler -
 

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Ordered mine here in Sweden from Komplett.se says it will be in stock 11th july, price is brutal it´s 10.499 SEK which translates to 1 111,73 USD, oh well it's likely going to be the best X570 and has no fan. Will use it in my giant Xigmatek Elysium case with plenty of fans so chipset should run cool. Going to get a 3950X so the wait is on for that one. :)
 

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Launch day reviews
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Aorus Xtreme
https://hk.xfastest.com/31225/gigabyte-x570-aorus-xtreme-xf-3900x-vs-9900k/
https://www.coolaler.com/threads/gigabyte-x570-aorus-xtreme.356012/
https://www.eteknix.com/gigabyte-x570-aorus-xtreme-motherboard-review/ --- may not be up yet?
https://en.ocworkbench.com/review-o...x-ryzen-7-3700x-and-ryzen-5-3600x-processors/
http://pcdiy.com.tw/detail/13398
https://benchlife.info/gigabyte-x570-aorus-xtreme-with-amd-ryzen-9-3900x-review/

ocworkbench BIOS overview :


Xtreme testing results



Aorus Master
https://www.eteknix.com/gigabyte-x570-aorus-master-motherboard-review/
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/gigabyte_x570_aorus_master_review/23
The Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master lives up to its name as well as the effort that Gigabyte have put into their new power phase arrangement by pushing the Ryzen 9 3900X to 4.35 GHz on all twelve cores. Given that 4 GHz was pretty impressive not that long ago, and the Threadripper CPUs struggled to overclock too far, it shows what a boon the 7nm process can be for AMD with high core counts. We have achieved 4.4ghz on other boards so it will be interesting to see how this may affect performance and how it places in the graphs.
https://www.profesionalreview.com/2019/07/07/x570-aorus-master-review/ --- 36°C VRM at stock Prime95 with R7 3700X , not surprised
https://news.xfastest.com/review/review-03/66825/gigabyte-x570-aorus-master/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antony...d-ryzen-owners-look-away-now/#33df4fcfd549--- used as the test board
https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/luke-hill/amd-ryzen-9-3900x-ryzen-7-3700x-zen-2-cpu-review/3/ --- Test board
Overclocking with 1.4V pushed the Ryzen 9 3900X very close to the throttling point with our Corsair H100X AIO. 4250MHz was the highest stable frequency that we could manage. 4300MHz was bootable and held Windows stability, however, Cinebench and Blender tests would throw up unusual errors.



Our manual overclocking (R7 3700x) experience was practically identical to that of the 3900X, though this time we were less thermally limited. 1.4V delivered 4.3GHz with the same unusual behaviour, while 4.25GHz allowed for complete stability. We managed to decrease the voltage further while maintaining stability.
https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-review/7/ --- used as test board to hit 4.3GHz
We did manage to squeeze some PBO testing in, though, which increased the all-core boost from 4GHz out of the box to 4.125GHz using PBO and 4.15GHz by dialling a 200MHz uplift to the Automatic Overclocking feature - still lower than our manual overclock of 4.3GHz, but all while keeping the slightly higher maximum boost frequency. We didn't really see any activity beyond the latter (4.4GHz), though admittedly we didn't tweak any power limits, so gamers would likely want to stick to stock speed or make use of PBO and Automatic Overclocking, while content creators should consider dialling in a manual overclock.
https://tweakers.net/reviews/7192/1...l-van-de-troon-ipc-en-opgenomen-vermogen.html --- X570 Master test board pushed R9 3900X to 4.4GHz all cores

https://diit.cz/clanek/recenze-amd-ryzen-9-3900x-dvanact-jader-vstupuje-do-mainstreamu --- used in review

https://thinkcomputers.org/gigabyte-x570-aorus-master-motherboard-review/

https://techgage.com/article/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-ryzen-9-3900x-workstation-performance/2/ --- used for testing
https://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/topic/feature/1194631.html --- used for testing




Videos

BIOS overview


Aorus Pro
https://www.eteknix.com/gigabyte-x570-aorus-pro-motherboard-review/6/ --- "Even managing to score the second highest score in PCMark 10"
https://www.techtesters.eu/gigabyte-x570-aorus-pro-review/


Aorus ITX : https://www.eteknix.com/gigabyte-x570-i-aorus-pro-wifi-motherboard-review/ --- "It also set our highest score ever in PCMark 10, and our 3rd fastest (fastest for X570) score in WPrime!"
https://www.coolaler.com/threads/ry...570-i-aorus-pro-wifi-3600_2600x_9600k.356016/
 

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Who ordered the 3900x and where from????? I can't find one anywhere but the bloodsuckers on ebay.
 

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Couldn't make up my mind up between Ryzen 7 3700X or Ryzen 9 3900X (now both out-of-stock). Let the F5 spamming game begin.


great job on Aorus Review Round-up. SUPER rep AlphaC
 

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NDA is up so lets talk!

ahh still dont know if i sould go for the Master(because of the 3.0 Front USB ports)
or for the Asus Hero, because i think the Bios COULD be better and MAYBE a bit better RAM OC (4 Sticks 3733)
4 sticks 3733 isnt a problem. I can do 4x4000 with XMP, 2x4266 with XMP. Those are the only kits I have tried thus far. 4x3733 should be a cake walk.
 

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3 sticks 3733 isnt a problem. I can do 4x4000 with XMP, 2x4266 with XMP. Those are the only kits I have tried thus far. 4x3733 should be a cake walk.

I really do hope so because the AB350 Gaming 3 could do 3733Mhz with 4x8Gb with a Ryzen 1700 stable for me. I tried 3800 but IMC could not handle it with the voltage limits that board had.
My Biostar X470GT8 was a utter disappointment in comparison barely does 3200Mhz stable.

I'm still looking what is good to try next but prices where a little off from what I had thought. I never thought the Extreme would cost that much (9990KR) I was expecting the price of what the Master got at the moment.
 

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Anyone know of a way to adjust the chipset fan? I find it to be just a little too high-pitched and a little too loud, I tried to add a front-panel CPU fan to the front of the case so it could get its own fresh-air with so-so results.
 

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Hello I just upgraded from X370 Taichi to X570 Aourus Master with 3700X. Great so far but I am hoping any fellow users out there can help me turn down or disable the chipset fan as it is loud as hell. I read they were only supposed to be on when they get hot but this is on constantly and sounds like a shop vac.
 

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Couldn't make up my mind up between Ryzen 7 3700X or Ryzen 9 3900X (now both out-of-stock). Let the F5 spamming game begin.


great job on Aorus Review Round-up. SUPER rep AlphaC

I missed everywhere that had them.
 

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We can tune the chipset fan curve, let me talk to our guys.
That's good to hear, it's really quite annoying at the current noise level- I'd love it if there was a setting to turn it off completely as long as temperatures were decent enough, I'd rather buy a slightly larger, quieter fan and just aim it directly at the chipset, if possible
 

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We can tune the chipset fan curve, let me talk to our guys.
Please, please expose SYSFAN3 / PCH in SmartFan 5, or give us BIOS control for it. My X570 Aorus Master's chipset fan is running at 4300 rpm constantly (chipset temp 57c) and the high pitch noise is driving me crazy. I'm nearly at the point of returning the board and dropping back to X470. I can't stand it.
 

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Please, please expose SYSFAN3 / PCH in SmartFan 5, or give us BIOS control for it. My X570 Aorus Master's chipset fan is running at 4300 rpm constantly (chipset temp 57c) and the high pitch noise is driving me crazy. I'm nearly at the point of returning the board and dropping back to X470. I can't stand it.
I hear y'all, I will work on it.
 
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