[Heuchler]

I would like to see some unbiased review of the x570 Aorus Master. At these early days of Ryzen 3000 there are still many conflicting reports, but most online reviews are rather positive.

I had the same experience with the x370 series with the Taichi. All early reviews were overly positive, praising the hardware and the boards capabilities. Actual use was rather mixed. Average BIOS support, slow updates, difficulties with memory compatibility (granted, that was as much an issue of 1st gen ryzen as it was the boards fault).

So this time around, I will take more time judging the boards available, but right now, it is really difficult to seperate the facts from hysteria.

There are as much fanboys as there are "haters".

Can anyone point me in the direction of objective reviews? Best would be some comparisons of like boards (Master, C8H, MSI ACE)?

Not sure about unbiased reviews as the nature of being an enthusiast leads to mental shortcuts and certain preferences/biases.

I will be getting my Ryzen 5 3600 today to test out my Aorus Master. Had enough of waiting for R9 3900X to get back in-stock.

I had the misfortune of buying a PRIME X370-PRO during Ryzen 1000 launch. BIOS got bricked like many people during those days.

Proper in-house testing before releasing a BIOS into the wild is very important. ASUS took a month to return the board. Plus shipping cost.

Sold it and got a ASRock X370 Professional Gaming afterwards. Came with P2.40 (post BLK fix) and it worked just as I expected from a board.



Seems like every major CPU microarchitecture change has a growing pain period associated to it. Microcode maturing (coining it).

GIGABYTE seems to be the hardest working on the BIOS front on X570, 400-series and 300-series boards among all the manufactures.



Plan on upgrading to Ryzen 9 3900X or 3950X later on. Yes, Aorus Master and Ryzen 5 is a mismatch.

 

[Heuchler]

Hey guys, I need some assistance, so I bought a Master X570 after all the headache the c8 from Asus caused me.

But I have a few questions, my AIO fans don't spin at all, after the system post the fans stop spinning and when I go into BIOS it says that the fans are not connected.

Also, I got a really bad time trying to get the board to post, sometimes the Q-Code stays at 00 and the CPU led comes up, I need hit the reset switch to get it to post.

Lastest BIOS.

Have you tried putting changing Fan Controller mode from Auto to PWM (rather than voltage mode)
I take it you have the fans connected to a PWM splitter (Y-cable with one of the PWM cables not connected).

Do you have something connect to the CPU fan header on the motherboard ?

 

[Heuchler]

Anybody try a NVMe Rev 1.1a drive on X570/Zen2. My Samsung PM951 doesn't show up in either M.2 slots I tried. BIOS F4 and F5g

Finally got stopped from reusing old OS from X58 system. It worked fine on X370 so hoping the drive didn't die on me just a incompatibility issue.

 

[Heuchler]

SOC too low after resume from sleep Fix for X570 Master - F5J

Let me know what you guys find during testing. Can you guys specifically let me know if this lets you downclock voltage under idle with 3600+ memory set, and any difference in boost behavior.

F5J 3733 (1:1) downlocks to 3525 MHz @1.031v (HWmonitor) 1.0325v (Ryzen Master)

 

[Heuchler]

Hey matthew happy to join the Gigabyte team have been a long time Asus guy. i can't seem to find wether my Mobo has PPT Package Power Tracking setting?

should be under Settings => PBO => Advanced => Manual

 

[Heuchler]

I tried various stuff but the chipset driver was impossible to uninstall for some damn reason. Would have to manually remove the drivers/registry entries... More of a hassle than it's worth... really.

DDU has the option to remove AMD chipset drivers
https://www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2213

-The AMDKMPFD driver/filter is a driver that AMD use to replace a PCI device driver. Removing it and replacing it by the default Windows driver is a bit tricky especially on computer with AMD chipset. Its an option that should be check mostly when moving from AMD to nVidia. Also from testing it is safer to use on Intel motherboard Chipset (probably due to a bug in DDU itself)



older version of AMD Cleanup Utility used to remove all AMD software (including chipset)
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/gpu-601

 

[Heuchler]

Hello,

I'm trying to input SOC Voltage value from the DRAM Calculator in bios using x570 Aorus Pro Wifi. On the Tweaker tab there is no option for SOC Voltage. Is VCORE SOC the same thing?

SoC Voltage along CDDF and CDDP should be under Settings -> AMD Overclocking

You can easily add them to your Favorites with Insert key

 

[Heuchler]

i haven't experienced any issue with F5j, F5g and F4 on the X70 Master. New version of Ryzen Master was released a couple of days ago (v2.0.1.1233) - https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

You might want to check that your aren't double setting values in BIOS. The Master has two locations in the BIOS for Termination Block (if one is left on auto while the other is manual adjusted it should be fine).
Tweaker and CAD Bus Configuration has RTT_Park input fields



D.O.C.P. is a ASUS feature on AMD platform for dealing with intel's eXtreme Memory Profiles [XMP]. AMD had their on AMP standard as an extension to the standard JEDEC SPD

 

[Heuchler]

Can anyone post the best procedure for flashing X570 Master BIOS? If it is by way of an USB thumb drive, does the drive have to be formatted to fat 32? Also can you turn off your machine and then use the BIOS USB port without issue (or is that only for flashing bare board?). Guidance in this area would be most appreciated, Thanks.

USB flash drive formatted in FAT32 (uncompressed BIOS file on drive).
on boot or in BIOS push F8 to launch Q-Flash [Save or Update]

X570 Master has a dual BIOS and they use checksum to detect bad bits. Very safe method.

 

[Heuchler]

@Heuchler Thank You :cheers: Is there any limit on how many GB the USB thumb drive can be? Also do you have to rename the BIOS file to GIAGBYTE.BIN all in caps?

i wouldn't rename the BIOS files. version number is part of the name so it is easier to figure out which BIOS you are trying.


I think FAT32 has a max cap of a little under 4GB (larger capacity drives should format down to the addressing maximum). I didn't try exFAT support nor UFI Hard Drive and SSD partitions (might be supported as well but I didn't try).



Q-Flash User Guide
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_x470-features.pdf

Using Q-Flash Plus

A. Before You Begin
1. From GIGABYTE's website, download the latest compressed BIOS update file that matches your motherboard
model.
2. Uncompress the downloaded BIOS file, save it to your USB flash drive, and rename it to GIGABYTE.bin.
Note: The USB flash drive must use the FAT32/16 file system and it must be a USB 2.0 flash drive.
3. Insert the USB flash drive into the white USB port on the back panel.
B. Using Q-Flash Plus
If both the main and backup BIOS fail during system boot, wait for 15-20 seconds, the system will automatically
search and match the BIOS file in the USB flash drive on the white USB port. The FBIOS_LED will flash when
the BIOS matching and flashing activities start.
Wait for 2-3 minutes and the FBIOS_LED will stop flashing when the main BIOS flashing is complete.

 

[Heuchler]

I put together are Memory overclocking guide (should apply to all X570 AORUS boards).
https://www.overclock.net/forum/28071804-post2.html

 

[Heuchler]

Somebody made X570 Aorus Master POST code temperature display program. Would be nice if Gigabyte would make temp display via POST LED an option (after successful POST-ing of course).

 

[Heuchler]

XMP can set SOC voltage to 1.20v or higher (always check and lower accordingly). XMP (Extreme Memory Profiles) is an Intel extension to the standard JEDEC SPD specifications. AMD had AMP but the industry didn't embrace it.

 

[Heuchler]

I went through the Memory Overclocking your wrote with Ryzen DRAM Calculator post. There is a point where it becomes unclear and should probably be broke out a little more. Overall it's really the best guide I've found so far, but sections are glossed over, imho.

Main Area that needs cleanup.You explain more in this section, breakout it out further; not all are properly explained:

Tweaker -> set voltages for CPU, CPU_SoC (Ryzen DRAM Calc), VPP1.8, CLD01.2, Promontory_Soc
PLL Voltage= PM_1V8, VPP Voltage = DDRVPP Voltage, CPU Vcore has to be set to NORMAL to use offsets

Should probably state that DRAM Voltage needs set first before VDDP and VDDG. My Aorus Master wouldn't change mV anyway after increasing voltage.

Favorites -> set VDDP voltage [in mV]
Favorites -> set VDDG voltage [in mV]


Clarify as you already state earlier Memory Multiplier should be set to same as CPU. Even below you again tell them to set MCLK, but where do you want them go and what to do. Infinity Fabric is assumed in AMD Overclocking Section?
Set DDR and Infinity Fabric Frequency/Timings

DRAM Timing Configuration
- set memory clock speed (MCLK)
Infinity Fabric Frequency and Divider
- set Infinity Fabric Frequency (FCLK)

FCLK and MCLK should be the same else latency penalty applies.
Have to set manually if over 1733 MHz

I made a revision to the Memory Overclocking section. I listed the voltages and parameters in the order that I set them. Trying to cLDO VDDG/VDDP voltages before DRAM didn't occur to me. A lot of terminology difference from CPU maker, Motherboard maker and generations.
Infinity Fabric is a subset of HyperTransport (HT) but HT has been associated with Intel's implementation of SMT [Hyper-Threading]. Point is that even within the BIOS some things have different name for the same setting depending on what menu they are in [DDRVtt=DRAM Termination].

Having the ability to customize a tab with all my frequently used settings is my favorite part of the new BIOS. That a GUI BIOS actually faster to navigate than a legacy BIOS is very nice.

 

[Heuchler]

Hi! I own an x570 Aorus Master, but the thread is so long that I gave up trying to read the entire thing.

@GBT-MatthewH

Are you still reading this thread? I'd like to make a few requests for future UEFI updates. Maybe someone else has requested the same things?

Anyway, please expose the following settings under the Tweaker menu:

VDDG Voltage Control
VDDP Voltage Control
Infinity Fabric Frequency and Dividers

As it stands I have to go elsewhere in the UEFI to find these settings. VDDG and VDDP are essential to using Ryzen Memory Calculator (or really any kind of by-hand memOC). IF freq will be really nice to have exposed on the Tweaker menu for numerous reasons.

Furthermore, I am having problems changing SOC voltage, VDDG, and VDDP inside the UEFI (under Settings). They won't budge, no matter what other voltages I set elsewhere. Changing SoC voltage under the Tweaker menu doesn't work. Changes made in Settings overrides everything else. The only way I can currently set VDDG, VDDP, and vSoC is to change those settings with Ryzen Master and then save them to a profile after rebooting.

edit: I also can't change CPU frequency or CPU clockspeed under the Settings menu. Only under Tweaker. They're stuck to 0, unless I set them in Ryzen Master, and then they're still stuck.

@Heuchler

You seem to have discussed some of these issues with @RAINFIRE . Is there some particular reason why I can't change VDDG, VDDP, and vSoC under Settings? I set my vDIMM already in the Tweaker menu. Do I have to set it someplace under Settings instead?

If we had more of these settings exposed under Tweaker, we wouldn't have to mess with the Settings menu so much! Also, all the p-state functions are hidden in Settings as well. Why can't that be under Tweaker as well?

My favorite part of the board is way you can customize the menu with the F11 tab. Everything is very nice with motherboard but after my favorite is the ability to customize it. I really don't like using any other BIOS anymore.


I made the AORUS Master Overclocking Thread because all the issues people are having with memory overclocking specifically. Since I can only be sure that the way I do things works with the Master I named it that. But it should work the same on all X570 AORUS boards.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-...te-x570-aorus-master-overclocking-thread.html

 

[Heuchler]

Just to check when u performed Q-Flash Plus, do u remove all your device like gpu, rams etc before u start? That time when I do it, I removed gpu and ram. Keep cpu intact as I got d14 and it's a hassle to remove cpu because of that.

I would Try resetting the BIOS to default [Load Optimized Defaults under Save & Exit ] then entering all your settings again. And make sure that you don't have a mismatch data like VDDG and VDDP Voltages

settings -> AMD CBS -> XFR Enhancement - > VDDG & VDDP Voltages
settings -> AMD Overclocking - > VDDG & VDDP Voltages


Other things to check: Infinity Fabric Freq, Mem Freq, SoC voltage, CAD Bus has two locations to enter in the BIOS. Basically I would check every menu and every setting first.

Q-Flash Plus should be a last thing to try kind of solution on a motherboard that comes out-of-the-box with support for the CPU are using. But to each their own.

 

[Heuchler]

So I had my first go with my Aorus Master today. I am coming from an x370 Taichi, so there are a few things to relearn.

1) As others have posted, it is very confusing that you sometimes have 2 or more places for the same setting. It is not really THAT bad, but you never know, which setting sticks and which setting does not, if you only change it in one place.

2) Second, the SOC setting is a little confusing. Do I need to change it along with the SOC overclocking setting in the same menu? Because it is stated there. What is the intention of this "SOC overclock enable" setting (don't remember the precise name)?

3) Under my old taichi, I could select XMP settings and modify timings etc. with that as a starting point. It seems, under Gigabyte BIOS, it is either XMP or manual, is this correct?

I would really appreciate a clean up. I know that the CBS menu can not really be influenced by GB, but at least hide the settings that can be changed in another menu and make sure, a changed setting in this other menu also applies to the (then hidden) AMD CBS setting.

ASRock does the same thing with multiple locations to get to the same setting. Buildzoid complains regarding the X370 Taichi BIOS and memory overclocking are a direct result of him doing everything via CBS sub menu's. Rather than ASRock's version of Tweaker menu.

I never had any issue that Builzoid had with my X370 Professional Gaming (same as the Taichi but with 5 GbE NIC, Power Reset and CLR CMOS button). Loading XMP and then overriding settings works the same on both my boards.

XMP profile (programmed from the DDR maker) can set SoC at rather high settings [1.20 volts or higher] so double check that. Manual tweaking memory will result in better performance than XMP. Results will vary on workload and IC quality.


I put together my experience with memory overclocking Master in another thread. Should work for non-Master X570 AORUS board as well.

Gigabyte X570 AORUS Master Overclocking Thread
https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-...te-x570-aorus-master-overclocking-thread.html

 

[Heuchler]

SIV [B19.0522.1] seems to be reporting the wrong sensor for PM_CLDO12


I test it with F5g and F5l. BIOS shows the correct voltage under PC health and Tweaker

 

[Heuchler]

in latest HWInfo (at least on the Master) - there's 2 different chipset temps being reported. Not sure if there's a bug in HWINFO or 2 actual different sensors? In either case - one is ~12-15 degrees hotter than the other..

PCH temp in Gigabyte's SIV shows the same temp as latest beta of HWiNFO under ITE IT8688E chipset. The first chipset temp in HWiNFO is listed as X570

With a cheap InfraRed thermometer I get about 10c lower on the surface of the Master's chipset but that is with a lot airflow (well vented case) and also HWiNFO readings should be the internal sensor to the chip.


ITE is the Super I/O Controller Chip for fan control and temperature monitoring

 

[Heuchler]

F4 was the first released BIOS [AGESA 1.0.0.3] - https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios
N11 reviewer [AGESA 1.0.0.2 CA]