[GBT-MatthewH]

How's this?

Works! Just sent to HQ to test.

 

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So, I'm having a tough time trying to figure out a memory config if I go with one of these boards. I was planning to do a 2x16GB kit and usually buy GSKill. For DDR4-3600 though there is nothing in that config just 4x8GB kits. I read somewhere that ASrock was recommending only 2 slots populated if you go DDR4-3200 or faster though or the memory go down to 29xx with all 4 slots populated. There was some discussion but it sounded like that might almost be an AMD recommendation so I'm not sure what to do. I was looking at the Gigabyte QVL and there's a ton of high speed 4 dimm kits in it so it seems like it's not an issue for Gigabyte boards? I've also always heard that populating all the RAM slots caused performance/OC issues by putting more strain on the memory controllers but maybe that's not an issue now? I would do a 2x8GB kit but I want headroom for photoshop/etc. work.

Memory is pretty trivial on X570. I wouldn't use so much of the old logic to apply to this platform. Yes 2 sticks is easier than 4, however 4 sticks @ 3600 is not hard at all. Here's my system with 4 sticks @ 3600. Just enabled XMP... It wasn't even a full 4 stick kit, I combine 2 seperate kits which is also (usually) more difficult.

 

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Here's mine running on aorus elite board:

Just took values from ryzen DRAM calculator. No issues with RAM, but the CPU is not boosting over 4.25Ghz, either on all, or single core. (Monitoring with Ryzen Master)

I tried with original BIOS, and the new BIOS that was released 2 or 3 days ago.

What CPU?

 

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3900X

Might have to wait for new AGESA. Things I have heard that helped people, but haven't verified myself:

• Uninstall Ryzen Master

• Increase BCLK to 100.1

• Turn off XMP + PBO

• Try BIOS F4 + F5E.

If none of those work you in a holding pattern. Good news is gaming should be fine, since its almost all multi threaded.

 

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I was wondering if anyone has run into problems with USB on this motherboard?

Half the time when I connect my keyboard to the USB2 ports and the system boots into the bios, it’s very hard to navigate, whenever I select an option with enter it sends so many enters it almost immediately exits without letting me select anything. Then after a while the keyboard dies. The other half the time the keyboard simply doesn’t work. Mouse doesn’t work at all. Same happens with the USB3 ports on the front of the case.

The only way to get it to work is to plug it into the white USB 3 port. I haven’t seen any options that could be causing this and it’s the first time I run into something like this for a PC build. Does anyone have any ideas what could be happening and how I could fix it? I’d hate to have to dismantle everything again and deal with newegg returns.

What BIOS version? If you had trouble booting the first time it may have gone back to BIOS F1. If so get up to speed with the latest and try again.

 

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Updated my first post with fan profile BIOS for all boards! https://www.overclock.net/forum/28023210-post4.html

 

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Hey, it's Matt! Didn't know you dwelled on OCN as well as seeing you in the AMD subreddit. Matt for your instructions, any reason why it just uses bin files while the one on the official website is using 3 different files? I just copied all 3 files to a USB and flashed in the BIOS just fine.

Other files are for command prompt flashing. Means nothing to 99% of users. All you need is the BIN.

 

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In your updated post - it now has the "5f" tag - assuming this is now an "official" bios or will there be another one ultimately updated via the gigabyte support site?

I've updated with this one btw - and it works very well. One other question - does the SIV app override the PCH fan details (seems to be)? If so - then if I'm correct - the SIV app needs to be updated to reflect the default config established within the new bios?

1. You will see F5F on the website, probably tomorrow. Just depends on when all the servers get propagated with the file.

2. We still have to integrate SIV with the new profiles. For now you should be able to see the fan speed, but not make adjustments. I'd say this is pretty low on the priority list right now but it will come eventually.

 

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anyone have WHEA-Logger 17 error warning?
aorus master 3700x

This is a known issue, not gigabyte specific. Nvidia is working on it - https://reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbozf6/if_you_are_getting_whea_errors_with_your_new/

 

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Hey Matt, are all the board’s dimms daisy chained? Or T-topology? Buildzoid has mentioned assuming they were daisy chained.

I want to make sure I get the correct ram kit for this platform.

Thank you!

All daisy

 

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I dont think is nvidia related. This is also happening with a radeon 7 and rx5700 as well. So pcie3 and pcie4. You can read the full story on the x370 taichi thread.

So, it has to be an agesa issue related with the implementation of pcie4 :/

Enviado desde mi ONEPLUS A6000 mediante Tapatalk

Didn't mean to imply its Nvidia specific, only that Nvidia has acknowledged they are working on it... I have seen issues on AMD as well.

 

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The F4f bios is listed on the website but doesn't seem to be downloadable for AORUS Pro Wifi X570 (atx). I flashed the F4e version posted on post#4 instead.

Here is what I noticed. I set the fan profiles (apply to all) as silent, fans are correct. I sleep the computer than wake it and it does not reapply the silent profile.

Ignore the voltage reading as that is not reading correctly. Fan reading is correct as I can hear they are much louder.

Left image is after boot, right image is wake-up after sleep

Same behaviour was observed for F4d

What is the chipset temperature when you see the 1800RPM?

 

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I have an issue with my keyboard LEDS and strips not turning off when shutting down the computer. Is there a way to make it shut down USB's totally in the bios? Can't seem to find it.

RGB Fusion -> Click on the gear in top right corner -> LEDS in sleep -> off.

For USB go into BIOS -> Settings -> Platform Power -> ERP

 

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any news on the BIOS fix for Destiny 2?

Early next week.

 

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@GBT-MatthewH .. all my downclock, downvolt, boost problems were *magically* solved after i installed a AIO, instead of the stock cooler...
The CPU now downclocks, downvolts, and boosts properly (up to 4.5ghz) .. as a added bonus it doesnt sound like a jet trying to take off, and the temperatures are much better


EDIT: Spoke too soon, my ram was set to auto with XMP ... it looks like if you clock the RAM manually (i have it running at 3600MHZ CL14, the CPU doesnt downvolt, or downclock properly..()

I will check. I would assume if it downclocks on XMP it should with manual settings as well, but let me see what our team says.

I assume this is with IF 1:1 set @ 1800, yes?

Edit: Can you tell me the settings you change for manual, the kit of memory, CPU, BIOS version, and board. Thanks!

 

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GBT-MatthewH: is there a recommended method of voltage monitoring on these X570 boards? My CPU seems to be getting loads of volts, even after loading optimized defaults in the BIOS. I'm seeing spikes over 1.5v on the Aorus Master with a 3900X.

According to AMD you should use Ryzen Master or CPU-Z until they figure out what's going on.

 

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I can confirm the same. I had this issue on my Aorus Master and I am still having it on the Extreme.

Spoiler

This video should explain alot. For now I would recommend you just keep PBO off as there is no gain and possibly higher power consumption (True for all X570, not GIGABYTE specific).

 

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This happens to me as well haha. When ever I try to run an odd CAS it sets the to even number above. So CAS 13 runs at 14, CAS 15 runs at 16 CAS 17 runs at 18. Having Geardown enabled is SUPPOSED to allow you to run at odd times but it doesn't.

@GBT-MatthewH

Have you heard of any other reports outside of the 5 or 6 people on this forum of the 3900x no longer boosting or downclocking when set to RAM and Fabric clocks of 3600/1800 and above? At this point it has to be some kind of bug as I can repeat the issue very easily. Maybe I can make a video or something showing you exactly what is happening? Again this occurs whether or not PBO is enabled.

I'll be back in the office this afternoon to test. From what I gather this is what I'm testing:

Xmp not enabling dram voltage.
Does xmp allow downclock, speed and voltage.
Can you set odd timings.

Anything else I missed regarding memory? (not asking individual cases, just the general issues multiple ppl reported.)

 

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Odd CL Timings work, but you do need to disable GearDownMode which is on by default. This is intended behavior of GDM as far as i'm aware.

From what i'm seeing the CPU cores don't reach their lowest idle power states when memory is as 3600, but do at lower clocks. Someone also made a thread about this on reddit.

From some rough testing-

Mobo: X570 Master
CPU: 3600X
BIOS: F5G

Default (no XMP) - Voltage goes to .9, clocks to 3600Mhz
XMP 3600 - Voltage stays at 1.4V, clocks 3600-4000Mhz
XMP 3400 - Voltage around 1-1.1V, clocks 3775
XMP 3600 / IF 1700 - Voltage 1.4V, clocks 3600-4000
XMP 3400 / IF 1800 - Voltage 1-1.1V, Clocks 3775

From very quick and dirty testing it points to clocks/voltage not downclocking with 3600+ memory. I will pass along the feedback to the team and see what they say. I do not know if this is a GIGABYTE or AGESA issue, I can only confirm the same findings as the rest of you.

* Also, all my XMP tests correctly applied 1.35V for DRAM.

 

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You are right about XMP applying the voltage now, i definitely had this issue on the shipping bios (Board: x570 elite) but i just tested it on F4f and it worked.

The idle issue was mentioned here https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cd6vh9/ryzen_3000_high_cpu_power_behavior_at_3600mhz/

I can reproduce it on my R5 3600, x570 elite.
Start windows -> close all background programs i can -> wait a minute or two -> check per core power on hwinfo64
with 3000mhz XMP cores drop well below 0.100W.
with 3600mhz OC the lowest i see is 0.250-0.350W.

Thread seems to point to AGESA 1003AB, but I will see if our guys can shed any light either way.